In continuation from sleepy kids and jamming fingers...
1.The following is a small list of authors with similiar [backings and interest groups] as yourself. I will go down the list from 'most in
common' to 'least in common'. Please give your opinions of each and their works.
1A.Graham Hancock, author of
Fingerprints of the Gods, believes Antarctica had been a center for teaching, whose survivors after a worldwide
disaster re-taught the world.
I sent the manuscript of WHEN THE SKY FELL to raham Hancock on July 19th 1993 (see page 465 of FOTG). At that time Rose and I had already spent 17
years developing the Atlantis in Antarctica theory explained by Hapgood's earth crust displacement theory. Graham Hancock had no clue (as he
explained in Chapter 50) that Antarctica might be the site of a lost civilization. I was surprised when I eventually was sent a copy of his book that
it followed our research from page 1 and that we were only acknowledged some 465 pages later.
One sentence was very telling:
On page 35 of When the Sky Fell: In Search of Atlantis
we tell the story of Ossip's Mammoth:
"In the summer of 1799, while searching for ivory in the isolated wilderness of Siberia, a Tungus chief named Ossip Shumakahov encountered, complete
with preserved hair and flesh, the ice-encapsulated carcass of a mammoth. The chief was terriefied. Legend foretold that any whose gaze fell upon
one of these creatures would soon die. As predicted, within a few days Ossip grew ill. However, to his own and everyone else's surprise, he made a
"With renewed courage, Ossip set out to revisit the frozen mammoth, this time taking along several curious Russian scientists. Excited to discover
that Ossip's fantastic account was true, they shipped the remains of the incredible creature to St. Petersburg, where it can be seen today."
In our unpublished manuscript of WHEN THE SKY FELL that we sent to Graham in the summer of 1993 we mentioned Ossip again on page 99. The sentence in
the unpublished manuscript read:
"Of the thirty-four species known to have lived in Siberia before 9600 BC, including Ossip's mammoth, giant deer, cave hyena, and cave lions,
twenty-eight were adapted to temperate conditions."
During the editing of the book in late 1994 we moved the "Ossip" sentence to a new location and because it was further from the story about the
Tungus Chief we dropped the word "Ossip" so that the sentence in the first edition read:
"Of the thirty-four species known to have lived in Siberia before 9600 BC, including mammoths, giant deer, cave hyena, and cave lions, twenty-eight
were adapted to emperate conditions."  pages 80-82. (there's a map on page 81)
On page 215 of FOTG, Graham wrote:
"Researchers have confirmed that of the thirty-four animal species living in Siberia prior to the catastrophes of the eleventh millennium BC -
including Ossip's mammoth, giant deer, cave hyena and cave lions - no less than twenty-eight were adapted only to temperate conditions
Nowhere in FOTG does Graham explain who "Ossip" is.
When I first read this sentence in FOTG I had a sense of deja vu
. I recall discussing with Rose which animals we should use and she suggested
'mammoths, giant deer, cave hyena and cave lions' in that sequence. Graham uses the same four animals and the same sequence. And he gave as
'his' citation the same one that we did:
A.P. Okladnikov, Yakutia Before its Incorporation into the Russian State
, ed. H. N. Michael (Montreal: McGill-Queen's University Press,
This book was never exactly a best seller and it would be very difficult to get a hold of outside Canada, especially in the early 1990s when
inter-library loans weren't as automated as they are today.
What Graham didn't know was that I had made a mistake. In the rush to finalize the footnotes I had improperly quoted Okladnikov. In the paperback
we rewrote the sentence to more accurately reflect what Okladnikov had actually written:
"Early Russian investigations of animals in northern Siberia before 9600 BC (including mammoths, giant deer, cave hyena and cave lions) show that
only eight percent were 'purely' Arctic species."
Since I had made this mistake I knew for certian that Graham had not read the Okladnikov book and the real source of "his" sentence was our
1B.Zacharia Sitchin, author of the
Earth Chronicles Series, believes that aliens brought civilization to man, and that it was only through
alien involvement that we advanced as we had, as told through Sumerian texts.
I have enjoyed Sitchin's books but remain convinced that our unexplained past can still be explained without the need to bring in extraterrestrials.
This is not to say that this was not possible. I am simply trying to hold up a terrestrial explanation for our ignored past. It's my niche. On the
other hand there is much about Sumeria that we don't understand and Sitchin is addressing real issues.
1C.Richard Hoagland, author of
The Monuments of Mars (a City on the Edge of Forever), showing evidence of alien artifacts on Mars and
similiar strucutres on Earth.
Sorry - I'm not convinced.
WHEN THE SKY FELL
1A.How was your book first recieved?
We got great coverage in Canada when it was released in January 1995. Graham Hancock, however, beat us to the punch in every other market around the
world beginning in the UK in April 1995 when his bok was first released. We found ourselves in the odd situation of seeing our arguments being
presented in each country months before our own work was published.
1B.Has the book's status increased at all since first coming out?
WHEN THE SKY FELL has been translated into a dozen languages and it remains something of a classic about Atlantis. We have a small but dedicated
1C.Was it difficult in getting it published?
We had some luck finding a Canadian publisher after many others had turned it down.
1D.How has WHEN THE SKY FELL affected your life? Outlooks towards future plans/works?
The theory of earth crust displacement and sub-theory of Atlantis in Antarctica preoccupied me from 1976 to 1999. My current research has nothing to
do with Atlantis or earth crust displacement but it equally radical in its conception (and hopefully in its impact).
1E.Are there any current works? If so, what?
Rose and I have completed another book but I would rather not talk about it until it is in print.
1F.What are the pros and cons which have come about since WHEN THE SKY FELL?
On the positive side it has been rewarding to see my ideas developed (with Rose's writing talent) and published around the world. I believe that our
theory has 'staying power' and will one day be more widely accepted as events unfold on Antarctica. On the negative side I have found that I never
found the intellectual companions amongst any writers that I could - in the end - respect. This was especially disappointing in light of the
wonderful correspondence I had had with Charles Hapgood. Can't have everything
I believe I have covered all the bases, but as is normal with such cases, once I send this, I know a few more questions will pop up! So please,
feel free to add anything you deem necessary. Any and all insights you can provide would be much appreciated. Upon receiving your answers, I shall
post the Q&A on Above Top Secret, and provide you with a link for your acceptance. Thank you.
aka soothsayer, Above Top Secret
And that concludes my interview with Rand Flem-Ath, whose website, once again, can be reached by simply clicking on
When I get my fingers to unbind again, I will add the link to my on-going ATS thread, Antarctica
WAS the Hub of Civilization
. Right now, however, I am going to google
that location Mr Flem-Ath gave... the one northwest of the Whitmore Mountians.
And yes, in case anyone was wondering, I did ask Rand Flem-Ath to read over my thread, and he will be going over this one as well, so please, be
respectful in comments (I know I know, we are always respectful on ATS...
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