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reply to post by grubblesnert
What you said
edit on 12-2-2014 by MysterX because: typo
I like the cut of your jib.
I find it interesting that a drone strike (or numerous strikes) of which video is available, does not draw a war crime charge...(yet).
But did you mean in your post, UBL killing could be a war crime??
To put my position on the line, I believe that no good could come from the release of his death pictures. Right now, the job is done, we have moved on, and a few crazy conspiracy theorists do not register on the "give a feck o'meter"
That's kind of the entire point though, without the images the people don't have the required information to make a proper determination about much at all.
My personal view is that yes, a crime had been committed. Whether that could be classed as a criminal act or a crime against reason is debatable.
The world changed on 9/11, as we all know it did not change for the betterment of general Humanity, just generally better for a certain few, mostly those who pull the strings and those rake in the cash filled contracts.
With such a world changing event, pinned at least by the media on UBL, if not the FBI, he became a defacto figurehead for the new so-called 'war on terror' (aka cold war focus and spending plan mark 2) justifiably or not (he was not actually listed as wanted in connection with 9/11 and never was officially, despite what the last 2 POTUS and other talking heads kept repeating on the MSM), the fact the US people and those of the entire world who had also been affected to one degree or another were never given the opportunity of redress, of cross-examination, of hearing his twisted justifications as he had seen it because he was essentially executed on the spot..was unforgivable in my view and i do consider that a crime against justice and the rights of the people.
He was cornered, he wasn't going anywhere...not into a network of caves, not into some kind of TV supervillain's underground lair, not into a waiting submarine, or indeed a waiting vertical take up jump-jet.
He was trapped in a domestic compound, yet the most hunted man on the planet, with vast sums of money and resources having been expended to get to the point of being in a position of easily capturing him, resulted in his immediate death.
No intelligence, no twisted justification from his lips that could be used against him and his like...nothing.
And on top of no intel, there was to be no body either, and again on top of no intel and no body, there was to be no images of the body even.
This means no closure, no conclusion and ultimately no real public sense of punishment for his crimes and actually seeing justice done.
There is no closure to the myriad conspiracies surrounding UBL and possible involvement with 9/11 too, which is not the least of it.
The publics access to those images is certainly not about morbid 'sightseeing' or something akin to rubbernecking a crash scene, it's about the rights of the people to have bought and paid for the hunt for that man with pain and sufferring, as well as cold hard cash for years and years, and our right to closure over the entire event surrrounding UBL.
It's both illogical and immoral to attempt to deny us that small consolation IMO.
I have seen the pictures, I’ve received the briefings, I’ve spoken to the operational leaders, and I can tell you for a fact that he is dead
Islamabad - A prominent official in the Afghan Taliban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of Al-Qaeda organization, stating that bin Laden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of Al-Qaeda fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden.