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CynicalDrivel
reply to post by NightSkyeB4Dawn
Actually, my first pet I named food. Had no problem eating rabbits after having one as a pet. Rather relived my parents that at 3, I could handle it.
Now that I'm an adult? I'm not so good with it.
Skywatcher2011
If that's the case, why don't I just take a bolt gun to you and throw you to the lions...booyah shacka! Circle of Life my friend.
needlenight
reply to post by dreamingawake
Trust me, the large majority of the danish people are happy with how this went down, we understand it could not be any other way.
“In Copenhagen Zoo we let the animals breed naturally. With naturally we mean that they will get young within the same intervals as they would in the wild. That means that the animals get to carry out their natural behaviours. Parental care is a big part of an animal’s behaviour. It is a 24 hour job in longer periods of their lives and we believe that they should still be able to carry out this type of behaviour also in captivity. Contraceptives have a number of unwanted side effects on the internal organs and we would therefore apply a poorer animal welfare if we did not euthanize.”
Jana12
@8675309Jenny --Just like the (almost) 22,000 people who signed the Petition I have the right to my own perspective and opinions and disagreeing with you does not mean I have issues. Having a different viewpoint is not an indication of 'disordered' or of having 'issues.'
I am not interested in being psychoanalyzed and don' t appreciate your pathologizing my feelings... that I am entitled to.
This post and the following ones are intended for those who agree with and appreciate my viewpoint. How about I won't try to change your mind if you don't try to change my mind.
Close sources have publicly stated this about the person in charge – he is arrogant with a crazy-stupid kind of stubbornness. He wouldn’t listen or even consider the suggestions of others -- classic signs of Psychopathy/Sociopathy --‘my way or the highway.’ He was hell-bent on killing Marius. Saying he loved the animal and then slaughtering it is actually another HUGE red flag. A person with empathic ability, meaning they are not Sociopathic/Psychopathic, wouldn’t be able to have carried out this act of cruelty and violence because a conscience is what prevents one from doing so – a ‘conscience’ (something all Psychopaths/Sociopaths lack) would have stopped them.
The truth is that the more they get away with the more emboldened they become and the craftier they are at hiding who they really are.
I can’t help but feel that arrangements could have been made to keep Marius alive in some Zoo where his gene pool wouldn’t be a problem. The Zoo has no business breeding Giraffes if this is the outcome. And if so, then they should be monitored for pregnancy and (very early in the pregnancy) immediately be aborted once pregnancy is detected.
If a buyer wanted to give safe haven to this beloved creature, offering an astonishing sum of money that could have been directed to Giraffe & Wildlife preservation in Africa itself, special dispensation should have been made an urgent priority.
It would have served the slaughtered animal, served the native Giraffe and predator population in Africa, been a positive (and empathic) learning opportunity for the public at large, helping foster spending money intelligently, giving humans better work to do, fighting poachers rather than preying on threatened animal populations…. not too mention setting a good example as well as excellent PR. There was AT LEAST ONE humane alternative.
But, Psychopaths and Sociopaths don’t have this kind of common sense and rational as they are impulsive – the main reason for worldwide conflict and suffering -- too many Psychopaths/Sociopaths running the show. We all know what a Psychopath/Sociopath with a badge and a gun is capable of doing. Most everything they do is for their self-serving, self-benefiting needs, glorification, ego and sick desires. And, they are highly adept, skilled experts at hiding this.
Jana12
The only winner in this was the lion, and of course...
Jana12
reply to post by needlenight
needlenight -- I was not ignoring your posts. I did read your posts and thank you for your contribution.
I didn't reply/acknowledge them because I am not interested in changing anyone's mind/perception. Our perception is our reality. Not replying did not mean that I was discounting or discrediting your thoughtful post.
I have spent a good part of my life studying Psychopaths/Sociopaths and I know how they operate. The only people who really know what they are all about, aside from their victims, are those who see the real side of them -- behind the mask. They are actors. They are imposters. Most, (not all, but most) hide behind a mask, as they present a false image.
Here's one example (of countless) that I will share: a neighbor, who is also a close friend, didn't believe me that another neighbor is a Sociopath. She had a good, positive impression of her, but that's because the Sociopath neighbor put on a good act in front of her -- that's what most of them do. But, I knew because I saw who she really was. I even caught her on camera stealing a plant in a decorative container from my backyard patio. I also taped a few conversations, as she sometimes exposed that ugly side of her to me. I played the video and then the tapes of our conversations and now she knows the truth.
The point is that I have keen sense of how they operate and I wanted to bring about awareness, shed some light, as I do not think people like him should be overseeing and making decisions for anyone, let alone defenseless animals such as Marius.
As you probably know all of the young women who dated Ted Bundy (serial killer) thought he was the calmest, nicest, sweetest guy ever... until he viciously and brutally attacked them. Part of the Psychopath/Sociopath's game is to win others over and to deceive. They are all skilled in the art of deception.
I am not trying to alter your perception of this man, or in any way suggest you change your mind about this person. You are entitled to your perception. JANA12
With that said, I will now post my final comments here on this Thread.edit on 12-2-2014 by Jana12 because: (no reason given)edit on 12-2-2014 by Jana12 because: (no reason given)
needlenight
reply to post by Skywatcher2011
I can tell you whats happening to him right now. He is sleeping, so that he can go to work tomorrow morning. Nothing is happening to him, as he followed orders from the European Union and did nothing illegal or wrong. He simply did what the law and a group from the European Union said he had to. If he did not, the zoo would have been shut down. Then what of the other animals?
You guys really are ignoring this one important fact:
EUROPEAN LAW AND STANDARDS FOR ZOO'S AND AQUARIUMS DEMANDED THE GIRAFFE BE PUT DOWN. NOT THE DIRECTOR OF THE ZOO. HE. HAD. NO. CHOICE.
You think its wrong, thats fine. You need someone to blame, thats fine. Blame the EU. Not the innocent guy who was forced to abide by the EU. The guy is having a hard time as it is, recieving threats from strangers, saying they will kidnap and butcher his children and wife. However childish and non serious these threats may be. It cant be easy for him. Your crucifying an innocent man.edit on RAmerica/ChicagoV by needlenight because: (no reason given)edit on RAmerica/ChicagoV by needlenight because: (no reason given)
needlenight
reply to post by Skywatcher2011
I can tell you whats happening to him right now. He is sleeping, so that he can go to work tomorrow morning. Nothing is happening to him, as he followed orders from the European Union and did nothing illegal or wrong. He simply did what the law and a group from the European Union said he had to. If he did not, the zoo would have been shut down. Then what of the other animals?
You guys really are ignoring this one important fact:
EUROPEAN LAW AND STANDARDS FOR ZOO'S AND AQUARIUMS DEMANDED THE GIRAFFE BE PUT DOWN. NOT THE DIRECTOR OF THE ZOO. HE. HAD. NO. CHOICE.
You think its wrong, thats fine. You need someone to blame, thats fine. Blame the EU. Not the innocent guy who was forced to abide by the EU. The guy is having a hard time as it is, recieving threats from strangers, saying they will kidnap and butcher his children and wife. However childish and non serious these threats may be. It cant be easy for him. Your crucifying an innocent man.edit on RAmerica/ChicagoV by needlenight because: (no reason given)edit on RAmerica/ChicagoV by needlenight because: (no reason given)
needlenight
reply to post by Skywatcher2011
Your crucifying an innocent man.
Skywatcher2011
reply to post by Jana12
I wish more people would see it from this point of view as well but are choosing to be ignorant on this and let higher-up people tell them how they should think...kind of like a communist system or a totalitarian way of dictating how people should behave on what is right or wrong...then there are things called morals and empathy; sympathy....this is becoming more of a sad world than we already know it is....