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reply to post by semperfortis
Thanks for adding your take on this topic, Semp.
I was thinking about your comment that operatives are highly-trained and the time it takes to achieve those skills.
The most important thing the intelligence agencies need is information, correct? If an operative's main task is to gather information and pass it along to their agency contacts, would they really need extensive training?
The agency can either slip someone in with little or no training and hope they are a valuable asset, or they can train and educate and insert an asset with a high percentage of success and survival..
I agree that a lot of training would be needed to create a successful asset. But just think, the LDS Missionary program takes care of some of that training for them.
"Intelligence War Games 101"
In Mormonism, blood atonement was a controversial doctrine that taught that murder is so heinous that the atonement of Jesus does not apply. Thus, to atone for these sins the perpetrators must have their blood shed upon the ground as a sacrificial offering. The concept was originally taught by Brigham Young, though it appears to be an expansion on the previous teachings of Joseph Smith, Jr. This doctrine is no longer accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church).
This doctrine is no longer accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church).[1
Most if not all intelligence agencies not only want everyone to believe they are incompetent, they actively pursue advertising that fact every way they can..Trust me on this...
Mormonism is one of the fastest-growing religions in the U.S.
With 6 million members, Mormonism is now the fourth-largest religion in the United States, according to the most recent data from the Pew Research Center. The church claims to add about 1 million members every three years.
More than a quarter of American Mormons - including Fox News host Glenn Beck — converted to the faith.
. . .
The church's assets are thought to be worth more than $30 billion.
The main source of the church's wealth is tithing — Mormons are required to give one-tenth of their annual income to the church in order to be allowed to pray in the Temple. The church reportedly receives more than $5 billion in tithes every year.
The church also has substantial real estate and for-profit business investments, managed by Deseret Management Corp. The company is one of the largest owners of farm and ranch land in the U.S. It owns the country's largest nut producer, AgReserves, Inc., the 14th largest radio chain, Bonneville International Corp., and a life insurance company.
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In 2010 Goldman Sachs hired 31 grads from Brigham Young University — the same number hired from Wharton.
Mormons hold a disproportionate number of top jobs at several major companies, including Marriott, American Express, Dell, Lufthansa, Fisher-Price, and Deloitte.
. . . the Young Guard turned up to Mormon meeting houses last week in Moscow, St. Petersburg, and other cities and picketed them, accusing Mormons of being “foreign agents” paid by the USA to brainwash young Russians. They also claimed that many young Mormon missionaries return to America to become members of the FBI and CIA.
When I heard that a group of brainwashed idiots were picking on another group of brainwashed idiots, I felt confused and sad at how stupid the whole world is. So I decided to talk to Elena Nechiporova, the Russian press contact for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
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OK, so I don't want to jump to any conclusions here, but did you notice she didn’t actually deny being a front for US state-sponsored espionage at any point? Yeah, I know. Still, it’s inconclusive and I'm no further in figuring out whether an openly evangelical Church originating in America would be a completely brilliant Trojan horse for state-sponsored pro-American agents in Russia, or a very, very stupid one.
If so they are not told what we want.