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reply to post by NephraTari
It wouldn't be the first sub species found.
Its not like we have alien DNA to compare it to, so this would just be considered a new branch on the evolutionary tree, even if it didn't seem to fit.
Remember the hobbit people discovery not too long ago? That one wasn't suppressed.
This has fakery stamped all over it until they come forward and publish their findings for peer review. Everyone should be asking why they haven't done so. And don't give them a damn dime for more tests. Its a con
reply to post by EyesOpenMouthShut
Again, this isn't evidence of aliens so much as it is evidence of POSSIBLY another species of human.
These people were found bound by ropes. For some reason I doubt ancient aliens came down to Earth and were promptly enslaved by the primitive natives.
reply to post by NephraTari
Please see my commentary posted in the discussion already well under way in this thread:
"Your commentary" once again SUCKS.
We are saying the same thing right here in this thread WITHOUT calling people "clowns".
You are one of the hardest people to read on these boards and I don't know why your disgraceful attitude is allowed to persist.
Edit for clarification: the above poster linked to a comment in which he/she said that the sooner people die the better. The subject of which is a recently deceased man.
The very definition of disgracefuledit on 7-2-2014 by JayinAR because: (no reason given)
Lloyde Pye and Brien Foerster?
I'd say the Provenance at the very least is questionable.
Thus, we have a zero-find here.
It's a waste of time.
The tests need be re-done, with proper supervision of and observation to Provenance with legitimate accredited names in Science attached to the studies that actually stand to lose something.
When characters with no real academic credibility to lose go maniacally waving around some shiny new "discovery", it really means a whole lot of ZERO until actual, legitimate accredited folks can give it a proper go.
It's shoddy work like this that poisons legitimate interest in these topics for fear of ridicule by association.
If the clown car would stop trolling around the block, then, given some safe distance and time from the circus, some legitimate names might be willing to give it a poke.
These folks, however, poison the whole subject by association.
Once they go away, die, and stop fogging up the air with their spookiness, someone with a name and reputation might be willing to put up a stake in doing some actual research.
What part of Integrity of Provenance is difficult to understand?
WHO obtained the samples?
For all we know they could of stuck a Howler monkey, a chihuahua dog, iguana, and a poison dart frog in a blender, fapped some human DNA into the mix, and sent a sample of THAT.
Questionable Provenance, at the least, as well as procedural methodology.
Samples need be collected under the supervision, of Legitimate Accredited Names, BY Legitimate Accredited Names or their doctoral candidates.
The entire process from DNA extraction, to final interpretation of lab results requires Legitimate Accredited Names attached.
The moment any fringer circus clowns start popping up, especially if there's any opportunity for them to contaminate anything, if only by association, the legitimacy of the whole thing falls to question.
Legitimate Scientists wouldn't knowingly accept money from these fringers due the association such clowns could cause in risking a tarnish on credibility.
These fringers are radioactive, in that respect, and until they get far far far away from whatever they're trying to push, no one is going to give them legitimacy and risk poisoning their career and reputation by association.
The 'tied up' comment is from buried skeletons that have been found; it's possible that the people were bound after death to make burial easier (you try digging a 6 foot long and deep grave without a shovel!), or they were buried as captives; is there any way to really tell?
I'm pretty sure that if a superior-brained race met up with a smaller-brained race, there'd be both violence and cooperative acceptance on both sides. Just like we have now... :-/
Occam's Razor would have us come to the conclusion that the large-skulled race was/is an unknown species; whether they came from some species on the planet we don't have a lot of archeological evidence for as of yet, or on board starships remains to be seen.
Cool topic, and one with real hands-on evidence for once.
Sample 2A from the skull bone is very special. I recovered an almost complete sequence of mtDNA from it and presumably a lot of nuclear sequences as well, but I did not analyze this aspect yet. The mtDNA sequence is very interesting. It does match human mtDNA, but has a LOT of unique mutations that are not present in most known haplotypes from A to Y, nor in Denisova or Neanderthal. Many of them are completely unique and not what is normally found in South America. Lloyd Pye
Recent DNA testing, by a German team in 2010 of nearby Nazca skulls, as well as a sampling of Paracas ones, indicate that both the Nazca and Paracas were not genetically related to any other people in what is now known as Peru.
Doesn't Occam's Razor state that the explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is most likely to be correct?
And who has their hands on the evidence and why won't they share with reputable labs? For twice.
reply to post by AliceBleachWhite
I basically said your commentary reads like crap and said your attitude is disgraceful. If you perceive that as an attack I apologize.
But to quote you on this very subject of Pye, a recently deceased man, you said:
" These folks, however, poison the whole subject by association. Once they go away, die, and stop fogging up the air with their spookiness, someone with a name and reputation might be willing to put up a stake in doing some actual research."
This is disgraceful and I stand by it.
reply to post by AliceBleachWhite
Good grief, I have never seen such childish behavior from someone who seems as learned as you obviously are.
First of all you seem to hold "science" in a position of supreme authority when it clearly is not. Science is a philosophical construct like countless others.
Secondly, you act as if these "disgusting specimens of human beings" ran out and robbed the graves of other people, and that is not true. These remains were GIVEN to Pye by someone who had them in a box in their attic, of all places. And if I'm not mistaken, THAT person had had them passed down by a family member.
So basically you are slandering not one, but at least two, people now deceased.
Who died and named "science" God anyways?
It's a hoax, pissing match over yes?