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as for people citing parts of the Mahabharata that are completely incorrect i'm not 100% about that either but, i can certainly see what you're saying and follow the logic there and I wouldn't rule that out as a possibility(regarding that specific passage). i can certainly see people mistranslating certain parts thus giving different meanings to some words etc.
reply to post by Cuervo
As you know I do believe we are not the first advanced civilisation and the points you raise about different technologies makes complete sense to me. I often wonder if a past technology simply used up all of the mineral or whatever source they acquired for power so all we will find is traces of it and maybe won't make the connection.
I didn't know we had been around for 15 million years although I have read about things found in layers in the earth that simply should not have been that old or have no explanation of how they got there, apart from the one that they existed at that time scale.
Do you think we evolved here through a natural means or do you think we were artificially made by utilising a Lucy or another animal and DNA manufactured or contributed from a third party? In truth we have found nothing we can contribute to an alien presence apart from ancient texts and tablets. (Not that I have a closed mind on these)
Making planes that could not:
Be Cut - now that suggests to me made to withstand laser weapons whilst in the air (I hardly think they worried about sabotage on the ground and chain saws.
Motionless - that suggests Harrier ability.
Not to be a jerk....
I'd really like to believe this...it would be cool. And I'm not trying to debunk simply for the sake of debunking. But, critically thinking....
If these things COULDN'T BREAK......COULDN'T BE CUT.....COULDN'T BE DESTROYED...etc...etc...etc....
Where are they?
Wouldn't they be somewhere to be found today?
Why haven't we found them?
Why haven't we found more references to them, as clearly later civilizations would have encountered them (derelict or otherwise), and mentioned them as oddities if nothing else....
Again, not trying to be a jerk....these just seem like common sense questions to me.
reply to post by CallmeRaskolnikov
I had forgotten about the description about the hair and nails falling out.
reply to post by CallmeRaskolnikov
I am sorry I don't have the skill to give you the site re Dr Oppenheimer's comments on the possibility of previous muclear explosions but you can look on
The Doc's covered about 3/4 down the page with his comment at the time of the first trial and an interview 7 years later concerning the hill forts etc.
I have heard of such locations, where the evidence points to a very high impact explosion, and unless there is a FEASIBLE alternative explanation, I must conclude that the most likely explanation is that some type of atomic blast occurred there in the past. However, I will not concede, at this time, that ANY civilization throughout history, of those we know about, possessed the technological ability to create such a device. Therefore it had to come from somewhere else, from a civilization not of this planet.
Fascinating discussion. I too do believe that we have had many civilizations in the past, and our history is a lot older than we are currently knowledgable about, but do have hopes that it may someday change, if this civilization lasts long enough, that is.
I cannot help but think of this story when I think of possible past civilizations on this planet..Asimov's "Nightfall":
Ancient City Found in India, Irradiated from Atomic Blast
Radiation still so intense, the area is highly dangerous. A heavy layer of radioactive ash in Rajasthan, India, covers a three-square mile area, ten miles west of Jodhpur.
Interestingly, Manhattan Project chief scientist Dr J. Robert Oppenheimer was known to be familiar with ancient Sanskrit literature. In an interview conducted after he watched the first atomic test, he quoted from the Bhagavad Gita:
"'Now I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds."
Giant Unexplained Crater Near Bombay
Another curious sign of an ancient nuclear war in India is a giant crater near Bombay. The nearly circular 2,154-metre-diameter Lonar crater, located 400 kilometres northeast of Bombay and aged at less than 50,000 years old, could be related to nuclear warfare of antiquity.
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
Its funny how our concept of how safe our planet is has changed dramatically. Being a child of the 60's I remember the weather being fairly stable, we had the odd disaster but they were rare and localised and outside the UK they suffered volcanic, flooding, storms etc.
But recently the weather has become more extreme and suddenly we are relating to ancient manuscripts speaking of large scale disasters which we are witnessing now. Blavatsky, whom I know is controversial for many speaks of a number of different starts for mankind and mentions the redhaired people etc. I have found the force of the planet in the past exhilarating, but now I am starting to worry about it when I look at my family and our little Grand daughter and wonder what she will face in her lifetime.
the Mahabharata is really quite insane when you really look at the whole story. not only the descriptions of the weapons which are all space-age technology thousands of years "before it's time". but, what's even more interesting aside from the literal vitrification of ancient sites ( a process which requires nuclear level heat) was how they describe the actual effects of radiation poisoning with out actually mentioning radiation. they talk about peoples hair and finger nails falling out after becoming ill along with some other symptoms which are specifically only associated with direct exposure to some serious radiation. these people weren't talking about a meteor hitting the earth. they were talking about an all out war between the "gods" and they wrote it as an actual history not some symbolic fable. the only thing is the Mahabharata is EXTREMELY long and daunting to read so I can see why most people wouldn't pick it up or even have access to its many volumes. but i would recommend investigating it further to anyone interested in advanced ancient civilizations.
The text is a fascinating read I agree. The problem I have is your putting for information that is not correct. The original text holds incredible stories themselves without the addition of fake passages that have been plastered across the internet. Everyone has access to it I linked it in a post above. Everyone can actually see the photos of the sites (which are not vitrified btw). Making a case for advanced tech on fabrications isn't helping anyone it simply makes people automatically dismiss it. See my post above for the photo's there it's a beautiful place. You can also search for the text your proposing in your post(which also isn't there). The actual text has enough great descriptions in it to make for good conversation about the possibility of advanced tech it just doesn't say what is presented in this thread. Here's another read about the quotes as well to expand people's search.