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Xtrozero
Rezlooper
2) I live in the north woods of Wisconsin and many old friends who I went to school with went into the construction trade not long out of school and for years they all did pretty well, but when the housing market collapsed you can imagine the hit they took. It hasn't recovered and many of these guys are still hurting. They are in competition with each other for the few jobs out there. Some have turned to other occupations and still struggle in those. And anyone who is from the north where winter's hit pretty hard knows that there are very few jobs this time of the year. That alone makes for Jan. 1 a terrible time to cut off that many folks because now they have no choice but to get to work and the work just isn't there...in my neck of the woods anyways.
There are many points to all this that a person could write a book on, so I'll leave it at that.
I think many are unwilling to move and in these times a person needs to move to the job and not wait for the job to come to them. I also heard that the main reason for hiring to be flat this year is that employers can not find "skilled" workers. I'm starting to wonder if people are investing their time to get degrees that have no direct connection to a viable skill and so end up being worthless.
I think many are unwilling to move and in these times a person needs to move to the job and not wait for the job to come to them. I also heard that the main reason for hiring to be flat this year is that employers can not find "skilled" workers. I'm starting to wonder if people are investing their time to get degrees that have no direct connection to a viable skill and so end up being worthless.
Xtrozero
Rezlooper
2) I live in the north woods of Wisconsin and many old friends who I went to school with went into the construction trade not long out of school and for years they all did pretty well, but when the housing market collapsed you can imagine the hit they took. It hasn't recovered and many of these guys are still hurting. They are in competition with each other for the few jobs out there. Some have turned to other occupations and still struggle in those. And anyone who is from the north where winter's hit pretty hard knows that there are very few jobs this time of the year. That alone makes for Jan. 1 a terrible time to cut off that many folks because now they have no choice but to get to work and the work just isn't there...in my neck of the woods anyways.
There are many points to all this that a person could write a book on, so I'll leave it at that.
I think many are unwilling to move and in these times a person needs to move to the job and not wait for the job to come to them. I also heard that the main reason for hiring to be flat this year is that employers can not find "skilled" workers. I'm starting to wonder if people are investing their time to get degrees that have no direct connection to a viable skill and so end up being worthless.
NthOther
GET A JOB AND STOP BITCHING.
Walmart is hiring. Circle K is hiring. McDonald's is hiring. Yes, they may be "beneath you", but don't complain about not being able to find a job. That's total BS and everyone knows it. I know plenty of people who are working crap jobs after making 6 figures in our bogus inflated economy of a few years ago. They sucked it up, grew some balls and got a job.
I have NO sympathy for the unemployed AT ALL. There are plenty of jobs available. You just have to tuck your ridiculous ego aside and take the work you can find. Like a man.
Rezlooper
Moving isn't as easy as you think. What if you are already broke, unless the new job pay's for your moving expenses it's nearly impossible to move. Moving is very expensive.
GrimReaper86
Many of those jobs seem to require 2-4 years experience at a minimum. I have the experience of my classes and of an internship I had during my senior year and that's it. In my spare time I decided to just work on creative projects to hone my skills and build up a portfolio to display my ability, but beyond that. What should I do? I shouldn't have to get a #ing Master's degree in my field to get a starting position. Please suggest something constructive. I'm all ears.edit on 7-2-2014 by GrimReaper86 because: (no reason given)edit on 7-2-2014 by GrimReaper86 because: (no reason given)
doobydoll
NthOther
GET A JOB AND STOP BITCHING.
Walmart is hiring. Circle K is hiring. McDonald's is hiring. Yes, they may be "beneath you", but don't complain about not being able to find a job. That's total BS and everyone knows it. I know plenty of people who are working crap jobs after making 6 figures in our bogus inflated economy of a few years ago. They sucked it up, grew some balls and got a job.
I have NO sympathy for the unemployed AT ALL. There are plenty of jobs available. You just have to tuck your ridiculous ego aside and take the work you can find. Like a man.
All pay minimum wage and that means still skint and still forced to claim benefits. The only difference is you're busting your buns for it. And so they move the 'goalposts' and now tell you that you now have to get two jobs, or three, or more.
Well I for one am done with jumping through hoops. I'll carry on applying for jobs but I'm not gonna carry on worrying about being unemployed. I'm sick of hearing what's expected of me and what I should be doing, talking down to me as if I'm not doing enough. So here's what I expect - I want a contract of employment with regular hours and a wage I can live on, nothing more and certainly nothing less. It is the least I think my labour is worth, it is the least I think anyone's sweat is worth.
I believe that if I work, I have a right to expect an acceptable standard of living in the society to which I contribute my labour, no matter what type of labour. I don't want a career and I don't expect daft wages for unskilled work, I just expect a basic standard of living. So I've decided that if I can't live on it, I'm not doing it. The minimum wage should at least provide a minimum living.
It's no good moaning about people not working when these minimum pay jobs are not secure, and won't get them off benefits anyway. Unemployed people are human beings, not fools.
I'll probably get jumped on for this post, but I really am past caring.
edit on 7-2-2014 by doobydoll because: (no reason given)
ketsuko
reply to post by spooky24
Basically, every change in regulatory policy, every major change in law alters costs at all levels. It all has ripple effects, and until businesses can accurately predict how it will affect their overhead, they are reluctant to risk spending capital in new ventures.
Right now, businesses are eyeballing the EPA's so-called energy policies because on top of skyrocketing cost of benefits, those will make their energy costs soar.
All of that increases overhead, and it means adjusting things in terms of juggling prices and employee load.
GrimReaper86
Xtrozero
Rezlooper
2) I live in the north woods of Wisconsin and many old friends who I went to school with went into the construction trade not long out of school and for years they all did pretty well, but when the housing market collapsed you can imagine the hit they took. It hasn't recovered and many of these guys are still hurting. They are in competition with each other for the few jobs out there. Some have turned to other occupations and still struggle in those. And anyone who is from the north where winter's hit pretty hard knows that there are very few jobs this time of the year. That alone makes for Jan. 1 a terrible time to cut off that many folks because now they have no choice but to get to work and the work just isn't there...in my neck of the woods anyways.
There are many points to all this that a person could write a book on, so I'll leave it at that.
I think many are unwilling to move and in these times a person needs to move to the job and not wait for the job to come to them. I also heard that the main reason for hiring to be flat this year is that employers can not find "skilled" workers. I'm starting to wonder if people are investing their time to get degrees that have no direct connection to a viable skill and so end up being worthless.
I think you are wrong. Let me tell you why. I'm in the same position your describing. I work as an IT helpdesk person, doing IT work over the phone and have been looking for a job more in line with my degree for over a year, pretty much since I graduated.
I am willing to move, I'm qualified for at least a starting position in my field and could probably do work that "requireds experience" even though I'll never be given the oppurtunity to prove it.
I graduated with a Bachelor's degree in Computer Graphics Technology, which is what everyone said there would be a future during my high school years.
I also have an Assosciate's degree in Computer Science Technology.
I can do illustration, photo, video manipulation using the Adobe suite (photoshop, illustrator, premiere)
I can draw, I code websites (although that's not my strong suite).
I can do CAD work, (Computer Aided Design)...think blueprints on the computer
During this time I've had one interview for a CAD job which I didn't get. I'm not mad I didn't get it, that just means someone else got it. Fair enough. But that's one job in a year and half of searching that has even let me get an interview. On illustration and video editing type jobs, which is really what I'm most attracted to, I don't seem to be qualified to even aplly to the majority that I find.
Many of those jobs seem to require 2-4 years experience at a minimum. I have the experience of my classes and of an internship I had during my senior year and that's it. In my spare time I decided to just work on creative projects to hone my skills and build up a portfolio to display my ability, but beyond that. What should I do? I shouldn't have to get a #ing Master's degree in my field to get a starting position. Please suggest something constructive. I'm all ears.edit on 7-2-2014 by GrimReaper86 because: (no reason given)edit on 7-2-2014 by GrimReaper86 because: (no reason given)
GrimReaper86
What do you do for a living sir? You sound like you don't have it too bad. Not that I know. Which is why I'm asking, but there are only a few fields I know of that have definite futures.
The medical field is one. Always sick/hurt people in the world. Hell it even runs in my family, lots of nurses on my moms side. Do I really have the money and the time to work full time and go back to school for something that will take as long as I imagine a serious medical degree of any sort would take? No. I don't know man. I'd try anything. Truthfully I'd love an education system that went back to the work apprentice system. Where one learned a craft through first hand experience under the careful guidance of someone well mastered in the craft. But that's another tangent entirely....sorry it's late and I'm tire. Goodnight, but please do answer the question. What do you do for a living?
reply to post by ketsuko
Think of it this way - If I grow a tomato plant to sell the tomatoes, any money I make is wealth I created by my own initiative. It would not have existed had I not grown the plant, harvested the tomatoes, and sold them. Your presumption of wealth being finite would hold that because I grew those tomatoes, I somehow stole them from someone else, somewhere, but that's impossible. The plant wouldn't have existed without me growing it and putting in the effort to make something of it.
Is anything of this being reported in your mainstream news outlets? If so, when did it begin and has the narrative focused on helping the middle classes point the big fat finger of blame at the workless, the homeless, the disabled, the dispossessed? Is there an army of clerical and administrative workers collecting data on how this hidden austerity measure impacts on people?
I ask these things only because I see a global push to eradicate the poor. Certainly, here in the UK, the impact of even overt austerity is (apparently) misunderstood by the very people responsible for implementing it.
doobydoll
reply to post by oblvion
Companies these days would prefer to not have to pay workers at all.
A couple of decades ago, I used to joke with friends and relatives that one day we'll have to pay companies to employ us instead of the other way around. I used to joke about it because at the time it sounded too ridiculous to ever be true.
Many a true word is spoken in jest.
That ridiculous 'joke' is today's reality. Our gov pays companies to take on unpaid 'workfare' labour. That's right, they are given taxpayers cash for not paying workers. I still shake my head in disbelief.
The world's gone totally la-la.edit on 8-2-2014 by doobydoll because: (no reason given)
Rezlooper
Xtrozero
Rezlooper
2) I live in the north woods of Wisconsin and many old friends who I went to school with went into the construction trade not long out of school and for years they all did pretty well, but when the housing market collapsed you can imagine the hit they took. It hasn't recovered and many of these guys are still hurting. They are in competition with each other for the few jobs out there. Some have turned to other occupations and still struggle in those. And anyone who is from the north where winter's hit pretty hard knows that there are very few jobs this time of the year. That alone makes for Jan. 1 a terrible time to cut off that many folks because now they have no choice but to get to work and the work just isn't there...in my neck of the woods anyways.
There are many points to all this that a person could write a book on, so I'll leave it at that.
I think many are unwilling to move and in these times a person needs to move to the job and not wait for the job to come to them. I also heard that the main reason for hiring to be flat this year is that employers can not find "skilled" workers. I'm starting to wonder if people are investing their time to get degrees that have no direct connection to a viable skill and so end up being worthless.
Moving isn't as easy as you think. What if you are already broke, unless the new job pay's for your moving expenses it's nearly impossible to move. Moving is very expensive.
What the truth might be, and what few politicians would dare say, is there might simply be some value in lower economic growth."
Danielle Kurtzleben, associate editor, U.S. News & World Report
spooky24
reply to post by ketsuko
Rather that the Federal government trying to solve everyone's problems it seems simpler to give states the power to solve their particular crisis themselves.