Sochi Winter Olympics Black Widow Terror Attack 'Almost Certain'

Sochi Winter Olympics Black Widow Terror Attack 'Almost Certain'

An attempted attack on the Sochi Olympics Games by black widow terrorists is almost certain to happen, according to catastrophe expert Dr Gordon Woo.

"Because of the history between the Russians and the Chechen people who splintered to form the Caucasus Emirate, Sochi is a prime target for terrorism," said Woo, who has advanced insurance modelling of catastrophes, including designing a model for terrorism risk.

"Russia has money, military force, means - all these factors have a direct impact on the situation in Caucasus. But this situation should not plunge us into despair. Everything is changing. The processes in the world are all interconnected," Caucasus Emirate commander and self-styled emir Dokku Abu Usman said.

President Vladimir Putin's decision to hold the games in Sochi makes it a prime target for terrorism attacks, Woo explained. "Vengeance against Russia has become top priority:

it is a matter of when and not if a terrorist attack will occur against Putin," he said.

"Sochi is a huge target for Caucasus Emirate black widow terrorists," Woo continued.

Visitors should arrive in Sochi as soon as possible to avoid highest-level threats on transportation. "Visitors should also avoid crowded places and should stay within their delegation complex. Even dining outside can be dangerous," Woo warned.

A British threat assessment echoed Woo's fears and warned against the high risk of terrorist attacks in Russia before or during the Games.

Dr Woo is saying Putin could have held these games somewhere else in Russia, geographically it was a poor choice.

"There has never been a situation where Olympics Games were held in a city geographically close to an area where terrorism is high. They [Russia] could have held the games somewhere else," said Woo.

IB Times UK

What say you guys?
I think it's a dangerous place to be right now
Then again there were warnings for Vancouver and London, nothing happened.
Still though, people should be aware and take heed.

i think there will be an attack(s).

Sounds like more people are getting on the "T" word train in seeing the benefit it has in padding the security apparatus, restricting the rights of citizens, and making people in power rich by spreading that good old fear of the boogeyman "Terrorist".

Don't tie your shoes that way or the terrorists might blow you up!
You can't wear green on Mondays because Terrorists.
None of your privacy rights are real ... Terrorists ya know.
Sorry, we have to take the whole city to a detention center because, well, there might be a Terrorist among you.
Are you reading Terrorist literature?
All your internet activity has to be monitored ... protecting you against terrorist, yup.

This is getting all too predictable.
Tried and true I guess.
The West has set many other trends. Why not fear mongering over the "T" word as a political tool?


boom

reply to post by AliceBleachWhite

Clearly you do not understand that there is so much bad blood between Chechnya and Russia, that there is no need to even mention the USA in reference to the threats these games are facing. The USA has nothing to gain from a terrorist attack in Russia either. Those folks are on their own and were there not an attack of some kind during these games, I will be incredibly impressed and happy.

reply to post by AliceBleachWhite


Everyone knows the US likes to use the T-Word to take away liberties, but this is not about a threat on US. Soil or it's citizens. It's against president Putin of Russia. Not Obama.

According to a British threat assessment, Emir Doku Umarov, a fugitive leader of the terrorist organisation Imarat Kavkaz (IK), or the Caucasus Emirate, called on his followers to do anything they could in order to sabotage the games, which are scheduled to run from 7-23 February.

According to the document, IK has no track record of attacking non-Russian interests: its fights concentrate on Russia.

The games located in Sochi are a good target, unfortunately, as the op was suggesting and the article sourced explained.

reply to post by AliceBleachWhite


Couldn't agree more.

"Black Widow Terrorists"? Never heard of them. Supposedly they've been terrorizing Russia since 2000, but a google search up to a few weeks ago turns up almost nothing at all.

Thundersmurf
reply to post by AliceBleachWhite

 

Couldn't agree more.

"Black Widow Terrorists"? Never heard of them. Supposedly they've been terrorizing Russia since 2000, but a google search up to a few weeks ago turns up almost nothing at all.

That really doesn't mean much

Have you considered a journalist recently coined the phrase ' black widow terrorist'?
In 2003 it was 'Brides of Allah'

Mamatus
reply to post by AliceBleachWhite

 

Clearly you do not understand that there is so much bad blood between Chechnya and Russia, that there is no need to even mention the USA in reference to the threats these games are facing. The USA has nothing to gain from a terrorist attack in Russia either. Those folks are on their own and were there not an attack of some kind during these games, I will be incredibly impressed and happy.

violet
reply to post by AliceBleachWhite

 

Everyone knows the US likes to use the T-Word to take away liberties, but this is not about a threat on US. Soil or it's citizens. It's against president Putin of Russia. Not Obama.

I apologize if I confused anyone but I wasn't implying that this had anything to do with USA at all except as an influence, a trend maker.

Russia sees how well using the "T" word works for the USA; how well USA has manipulated its own citizens and even quite a bit of the rest of the planet by using the "T" word as an excuse for any and every reason, and decides to start using the "T" word to justify and rationalize anything and everything spooky it wants to do as well.

In other words, Russia has decided to trump up its own participation on the "War on Terror" and may very well flirt with all sorts of disasters caused by all sorts of terrorist groups, regardless of who it hurts, but, if a big scary spooky fantastic media circus "Terrorist" attack just happened to oops, kinda sorta accidentally on purpose happen at the Olympics, then, Russia will has every excuse to act all sorts of badly toward any and every agency on the planet ... and ... everyone else will help, or turn a blind eye, especially if some of their own citizens are harmed by whatever mysterious super spooky group of anti-russian terrorists that no one has ever heard of except maybe starting a few weeks ago, and they just happen to have a name that sounds like they've been watching way too much Kill Bill.

Right.

There doesn't have to even be any actual real terrorists, or any real terrorist event.

So long as the world, and its own citizens are adequately convinced that Russia is fighting its OWN "War on Terror", it can get away with all sort of acting badly, in treating its citizenry poorly, being more draconian than necessary with threats and security concerns outside of Russia, and the rest of the international community will pretend not to notice, and might even help.

The "T" word is a good thing.
Using the "T" word has magical qualities that lets governments get away with all sorts of things they wouldn't normally get away with.



Next time you're late to work, or decide to do something stupid and get caught, make sure your excuse involves your own "War on Terror". It works for the USA. Now, Russia is going to invent, or use whatever convenient Terrorists it can find so it can have the same excuse.
Maybe the same excuse might work for you.

Black Widow Terrorists?
Maybe you could be fighting the Rabid Tigers with Mange and and unusually Foul Odor Terrorists?



boom

In other words, Russia has decided to trump up its own participation on the "War on Terror" and may very well flirt with all sorts of disasters caused by all sorts of terrorist groups, regardless of who it hurts, but, if a big scary spooky fantastic media circus "Terrorist" attack just happened to oops, kinda sorta accidentally on purpose happen at the Olympics, then, Russia will has every excuse to act all sorts of badly toward any and every agency on the planet ... and ... everyone else will help, or turn a blind eye, especially if some of their own citizens are harmed by whatever mysterious super spooky group of anti-russian terrorists that no one has ever heard of except maybe starting a few weeks ago, and they just happen to have a name that sounds like they've been watching way too much Kill Bill.

Unfortunately, I can't disagree with that assessment. However, I just can't see how Putin, nor his government, can't be aware of the number of persons around the world that can't disagree with your assessment either.

The "super spooky group of anti-russian terrorists" just appearing and ready to be crushed by the security of the sort of free world seems so contrived that it's hard to understand they don't realize how people are going to see through this.

How this all fits together will just need to be played out-it's perplexing.

reply to post by AliceBleachWhite


Russians have lived under the threat of the big T for most of their lives. Going back centuries.
This is not a new terrorist cell coming after them. It's always been this way. It was new to the USA when the war on terror came onto the scene. We don't live in countries that are always at war with their neighbours.

I'm starting to think people thought of Russia as a country like America, Australia or Canada, where we live in peace most of the time. It's not a country that's ever been held in high regard. Communism, restrictions have always been in place. Why do you think people want to leave it? It used to be you couldn't leave.

The Chechen–Russian conflict (Russian: Чеченский конфликт) is the centuries-long conflict, often armed, between the Russian (formerly Soviet) government and various Chechen nationalist and Islamist forces. Formal hostilities date back to 1785, though elements of the conflict can be traced back considerably further.[3][4]

reply to post by violet


What I'm suggesting is not about actuality, but about perception.

Yes, Russia has it's history of violence and oppression of its own peoples.
That's just more of the same, and it keeps going on, back and forth, forever, until Russia rebrands the whole thing for the world, as if it's something new, even though it isn't, and suddenly since Russia is now fighting "Terrorism" instead of Tajikistan Rebels, Chechnyan Militants, Georgian Separatists, it's all neatly re-labelled under the popular heading of TERRORISTS, and world perception on the political stage may then even lend support.

Tajikistan Rebels, Chechnyan Militants, Georgian Separatists have faces and stories and causes.
Terrorists?
Nope.
You can drone Terrorists to death and even blow up whole wedding processions, or funeral gatherings full of innocents, or inconvenient news crews (oops) to get at "High Value Terrorists".

You can set up torture chamber camps to "question" these terrorists, and hold them indefinitely without charge, legal council, or any representation in their defense. This can extend to one's own people too if they're inconvenient enough that trails and public hearings or any conventional crime might be found awkward for the ruling powers.
(sure, russia already has a history of this with Stalin, and other leaders, but, with less isolationism, and a smaller more information dense world, excuses need be made to disappear people, and TERRORISM is an extremely convenient excuse).

It's not all simple one and two dimensional problem/solution here.
The political arena on the world stage attaches just as much importance to appearances, and how pretty the lies everyone tells and gets told are, even though all the players know they're lies.
Terminology and rebranding gives one more latitude to cozy up to X, Y, and Z who also are having "terrorist" problems, among other things.

It's a fun and complex dance where people say "yes" when they emphatically mean "no", and they might even say "yes" for pages, just to ensure that no offense is given and even though this "yes" is a rejection, it's being said as "yes" because we're still all "friends" right.

Here, we have Russia re-branding nothing new into Terrorism.
Further, as stated before, it doesn't matter if there actually are any real terrorists.
So long as the perception is "War on Terrorism", then some precedents already in play with other nations suddenly become more legal, appropriate, condoned, and assistance might even be tendered with new friends in the making.

reply to post by AliceBleachWhite


Hi

I get what you mean and I do agree with you.

The " war on terror" phrase was coined after 9-11. They said terrorists did this, and put everyone in fear so they could easily have people comply with "yes" ok I understand the new TSA. Rules.

You didn't have to live in New York to have a sense of this 'fear'. Any other country going along with it, with the UN were also. " at risk" and under the constant threat of terrorism.


Then along came more rules. The DHS etc. .
The citizens continue to nod there heads. 'Yes' when they really mean 'no'

However, it seems Americans have had it drilled into their heads the most. I think so anyways

Hope I made sense.

AliceBleachWhite

The West has set many other trends. Why not fear mongering over the "T" word as a political tool?

Why not? Well, maybe because Russia has been dealing with Terrorism for a lot longer than "the west"

When 9/11 happened terrorism was already old-hat to the Russians.

If anything Russia set the trend and the US jumped on the terrorism bandwagon, not the other way around.

Russia doesn't need an excuse to remove freedoms from the people, and if they wanted to use terrorism to steal rights away why start now?