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xuenchen
reply to post by SaturnFX
I suppose a source is out of the question here. as much as I trust the "tea party news network" website (snickers), I am going to say I have my doubts of at least the context of the sentence being represented here.
article; HuffPost
story MSNBC
and perhaps you could explain your views about "Checks and Balances" ?
Love to hear it !!
DrEugeneFixer
reply to post by xuenchen
Obama has been extremely aggressive in enforcing immigration. He has deported more people than any president in history.
368,644 just in 2013.
www.politifact.com...
www.ice.gov...
Given these facts, it's really some BS to say that Obama is not going to enforce immigration laws. He is already doing quite a bit more than his predecessors, Bush, and Clinton.
The Obama administration has set records for deportations, but the types of immigrants it is kicking out of the country has changed dramatically over the past four years, according to numbers the Homeland Security Department has had to turn over as part of a pending court case.
Records show that the number of regular deportations from within the interior the rank-and-file illegal immigrants who are living and working in the shadows has plummeted by 25 percent. Instead, the department has surged deportations along the borders.
That change means that illegal immigrants who successfully navigate the border are in less danger of being deported, unless they commit serious crimes that bring them to the attention of the federal government.
Obama’s immigrant deportation numbers tell different stories in interior, on border
It's the "Quantity" vs "Quality" ratio that counts ....
I would also be interested in your opinions and views about "Checks & Balances".
And another question I have is about the "illegal" population.
We keep hearing the "11 million" number being thrown around.
Assuming the deportation numbers are real, then where *Are* all the rest?
How are these 11 million living?
Where are they getting money and services?
How come we don't a massive death rate from starvation?
Are these 11 million all homeless?
Maybe certain political groups are exaggerating?
How do we know for sure the "illegal" population isn't 500,000?
I would also be interested in your opinions and views about "Checks & Balances".
Sounds like you want to change the subject.
xuenchen
reply to post by SaturnFX
So from your response, I get the feeling you prefer a "single party" or a "Like minded" party to run the whole government?
Perhaps some Constitutional Amendments are in order?
I would be interested in seeing a full list of pros and cons to that idea and how that compares to the current system of checks & balances.
Blowback
repeat after Nancy Pelosi ,, "we have too pass it too find out whats in it"
edit on 7-2-2014 by Blowback because: (no reason given)
beezzer
Hey Nancy!
AliceBleachWhite
reply to post by xuenchen
*sigh*
More partisan nonsense.
Republicans this. Democrats that.
It doesn't matter!
The entire system is corrupt and at this point it's just a game for those in power to bicker over who has the most power.
Next election, if the Republicans get their favored candidate in office, they'll be sure to cry foul when/if the Democrats turn around and repeat the very same tactic in following an already by then established precedent.
If corporations can be people, then, methinks a new party should form as a collective corporation where the corporation itself runs for President, that way, we could have like 100 different people as acting President all at the same time; all of them giving the finger to the old 2 party establishment.
It'd be more entertaining than this old done to death tired nonsense of D vs. R all the time, and the "President" as a distributed "person" could be in more than one place at one time, and get way much more accomplished.
Corporations already run America, so, why not legitimize with a political corporation?
meh.
Whatever, dude. Obama is enforcing immigration more vigorously than it has been in a generation.
A U.S. immigration judge ruled on Tuesday that President Barack Obama's Kenyan-born uncle can stay in the United States as a lawful resident, despite his decades dodging deportation and a 2011 drunk-driving arrest.
His deportation order came to light after he was arrested and charged with drunk driving in August 2011 in Framingham, Massachusetts, where he has worked for more than 11 years at a convenience store. After his arrest, he allegedly told police: "I think I will call the White House."
Judge Shapiro is the same judge who in 2010 granted asylum to Obama's sister and President Obama's aunt, Zeituni Onyango.
Two years after saying President Obama had not met an uncle who faced deportation, the White House said Thursday that Obama lived briefly with him back in the 1980s.
During the hearing, Onyango Obama — the half-brother of the president's father — claimed a relationship with his famous nephew.
The president and his uncle have not stayed in touch, Carney said.
"The president has not seen Omar Obama in 20 years and has not spoken with him in roughly 10 years," Carney said.
Carney also repeated that the White House had "absolutely zero" involvement in the uncle's deportation case.
DrEugeneFixer
reply to post by xuenchen
Obama has been extremely aggressive in enforcing immigration. He has deported more people than any president in history.
368,644 just in 2013.
www.politifact.com...
www.ice.gov...
Given these facts, it's really some BS to say that Obama is not going to enforce immigration laws. He is already doing quite a bit more than his predecessors, Bush, and Clinton.
LeatherNLace
jjkenobi
I still love that all the Democrats gave a standing ovation when Obama said he would just bypass all of them and executive order everything. They might as well go home, their positions are meaningless.
Is that what you heard? Because this is the President's actual words:
Today, after four years of economic growth, corporate profits and stock prices have rarely been higher, and those at the top have never done better. But average wages have barely budged. Inequality has deepened. Upward mobility has stalled. The cold, hard fact is that even in the midst of recovery, too many Americans are working more than ever just to get by – let alone get ahead. And too many still aren’t working at all.
Our job is to reverse these trends. It won’t happen right away, and we won’t agree on everything. But what I offer tonight is a set of concrete, practical proposals to speed up growth, strengthen the middle class, and build new ladders of opportunity into the middle class. Some require Congressional action, and I’m eager to work with all of you. But America does not stand still – and neither will I. So wherever and whenever I can take steps without legislation to expand opportunity for more American families, that’s what I’m going to do.
www.whitehouse.gov...
*emphasis mine
Obama did not say he was going to bypass Congress.
I find it kind of ironic that the right clamors on about illegal immigrants learning the English language; yet, many of them can't seem to understand basic English themselves.
The President (the Executive Branch) works for the people, not for Congress. If Congress refuses to do their job and work for the people, then the President must take any and all actions within the scope of his job. That is the way our government is set up to operate.
So, yes, the Democrats stood up in applause for the President's statement. Not because he is overreaching his power; rather, because he is finally going to wield the power that he has had all along.
edit on 7-2-2014 by LeatherNLace because: added source
Flatfish
reply to post by neo96
As pathetic as it may be it's true, the GOP has no intentions of conducting any of the business of government so long as Obama is in office. Instead of going to Washington to make things happen, it's now more than apparent that the real reason they went there was to make sure that nothing happens. And we wonder why their approval rating hovers in the low teens.