reply to post by Rapha
TY... I found that somewhat interesting.
I asked because I am spanish... and in spanish tartarus is a word which simply translates as torture.
Hence... the idea gifted to the spanish is a place wherein folk(s) are tortured to death.
Its design was/is to break the spirit of individuals who last recourse is a salvation offered by their respective god(s).
They have done evil and/or been unrelenting in their ways... despite attempts to sway them to do good.
In other matters "Hades" is somewhat of a joke...
Hades is a word in spanish which simply translates as "A Dios"...
It means "To God"... but it is not used in that context. Its primary context is good bye.
Thus the joke is good bye... but with the mention of god... it reads as a very cruel joke insinuating farewell and good riddins.
That is wherein a mortal is awakened to the horror of hell and all its aspects.
Kind of a sad thing... but not all people are bad... so it makes for a funny thought.
Greek pantheons, in spanish, are each accounted for with words that reveal the finite mysteries of the attempted lesson.
For Example: The Demi-God "Heracles" is/has been pronounced through the english language as mainly heracles... BUT... But the name is triple
The real name in spanish is: He = pronounced Oh... Rac = pronounced Rex... Les = pronounced Lex.
The name is: O'Rex'Lex which means: Great King Law
Lex is Law
Rex is King
O is great...
He battles against "Eurystheus Of Tyrins And Micynae"
That also is read in spanish as "Eres Deus De Tyrannos Y Mi Segna"
It means: Is God Of Tyrants And My Signs...
The two struggle for the overthrow of one another and further combine the rite of passage in which it is done.
The term 12 step program and AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) is the variation of it... but in the comical sense of it... As in Adios!
The real 12 step program is the 12 labors of Heracles and AA (due to his drunken rage) is titled Ancient Y Acceptado... = Acient & Accepted.
The spanish folk pride themselves in the revelations of the greeks.
It is a bad habbit on their part... but mostly for selfish reasons.
They look forward to being labeled as not superstitious.
I, myself, do not dabble in that pride... as i know few who are down trodden by their evil ways.
It sad to grow up and find out that the people you onced revered as children are now dead or in prison or in a hell all their own with no chance of
But to you i lend the rationale of spain and the funnies of greece.
I once told my god in confiedence that instead of relying heavily on Christ.... I would lend myself to the ways of the greeks. It was offensive to
him... but rewarding to no avail.
I gained nothing... but many were lost in the tried by the hell fires of my lord... who took it upon himself to lure unsuspecting foes in unto the
hands of the greeks. Yay To That!
My faith in greece rivaled that of my foes whos faith was shattered by the idea of a warring faction of greeks. Turns out it was their time for
They, my foes, had not grand belief system is their god.
Note: as you progress in your studies.... do well for yourself by noting that what god considers strange in this world... is the worship of strange
gods. What in fact makes a strange god is someone who inevitably succumbs to the aged and ancient and accepted art of "Swallowing Spit!"
Many may pride their glory in a god-father... whilst he furthers himself in that pride... but your personal achievement(s) can/will deter him from his
world of folly.
In masonry... this is known as "Fellow Craft!"
It is the craft of the mind and the body completely disagreeing with the idea/spirit of the entity.
Very funny thing and very adios like.
Spit... has a place in renown of things...
Also... If I May... Know this...
Heracles had five advantges...
1) Bronze Sword= Index (Pointer) Finger...
2) Poison Arrows= Truth And Word Of Mouth...
3) Wooden Club= (Bite) Thumb And/Or Arm Raised w/Fist... (A little hard to describe)
4) The Stomp= Putting His Foot Down...
5) Impervious Lion's Skin= Yellow/Red (Colors Of The King)...
His Friend Iolaus = Yo Lo Uso! meaning "I Use Him!"
In Tarot... You need learn two lessons... 0 and 12.
0 = Dont Turn Your Back On A True Friend (Tarot = The Fool)...
12 = Put Your Foot Down And Raise Up [To] Arm(s) (The Hanged Man)...