reply to post by Belcastro
Text are they really fallen angels? or perhaps they are the Gods of old and other mysterious religions?
Most people are not aware that most bibles say that the fallen angels are all in hell. According to the 1611 KJV bible and the book of Enoch, fallen
angels are not demons nor are they loose upon the earth as evil spirits.
Revelation does tell us that there was a war in heaven --
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the
earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
When most people read this they assume that angels are free spirits that afflict people but that is not true. Look at the words (into the earth).
Isaiah tells us that Lucifer is in hell -- Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
2nd Peter tells that all fallen angels are in hell -- 2Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and
delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
Then who are these demons that Jesus fought during His ministry if they are all in hell? Well that is where the book of Enoch comes into play. The
bible tells that there were giants in those days and that these giants came from the second event of fallen angels. The first group are in hell as
the second group of two hundred landed on Mt. Herman in the days of Enosh, not Enoch, and mated with human women. After hundreds of years of breeding
the result was the giants which the bible describes are in the days of Noah. Now Enoch tells us that these two hundred fallen angels are also
punished and contained in various ways but that the offspring of the angels (the giants) are destroyed in the flood of Noah.
R.H. Charlesworth (The O(ld Testament Pseudepigrapha book 1 - 15:8-12) - translates this as saying that it is the giants spirits (offspring of angels
and mortals) which are the demons. These are considered sub humans who are neither angels or seed of Adam. The demons that Jesus fought were the
spirit demons of the giants and not fallen angels. All fallen angels are contained till the end times when they are released for a time in
preparation for the final battle against God. Then all fallen angels are cast into the lake of fire for eternity.
Then how could Jesus be tempted by Satan if Satan is in hell? There are many Satans. Lucifer was only one of many Satans. The bible does not say
which Satan tempted Jesus but it was not Lucifer. Satans are more on the order of a antichrist. There are many antichrists and there are many satans
and devils and anyone who is against God is both a antichrist and a satan.