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Any suggestions for a new carry weapon?

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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 10:06 PM
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M&P Shield 9mm. Beautiful gun, great reviews. Also, very affordable, and compact.


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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 10:11 PM
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I would have to say either the P938 or an M&P compact.

You might also check out the Barrera PX4 Storm,


I'm leaning toward the S&W M&P .40 Shield but the PX4 looks interesting. Will check it out more.

 

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Thanks for the video. I'll watch more of it later. I do have concerns about the 9mm being too light though.
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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 10:13 PM
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Glock G20 10mm 3rd Gen.....better ballistics than a .357 Magnum

www.thetruthaboutguns.com...

this is my next purchase.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 10:27 PM
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Beretta 96 or beretta px4 storm in .40 s&w.
Never missed yet.

the px4 has a rotating barrel which eats a lot of the barrel climbthe and recoil.
The 96 is made of metal and you can use it as a club when you run out of ammo.
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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 10:38 PM
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Will definitely check out the PX4 .40. Not the 96 though, trying to keep my weight down.



 

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The G20 is a bit big for what I'm looking for but would consider it if I ever go full size again.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 10:45 PM
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I guess it depends a great deal on how you carry a 1911. There are definitely a variety of ways I can't carry that, particularly being average height. It's long and it's heavy, but it's also flat and smooth so I'll take that trade off too. This is how I carry mine and this isn't me, but a pic I found of the same clip in use:



When you can carry it in tight and flat like that, sans a clunky holster, there is nothing to break up the waist line. Missouri isn't like Oklahoma for going nuts if a concealed weapon becomes visible or 'prints' but I still prefer no one have any clue I'm carrying. The clip allows almost anyone to carry that large frame with almost no shape at all.

When I was with Occupy, I had a little Ruger .380 and that was...well...err.. Okay, it was a gun and it would have been fatal ..I think... I hoped.. within at least a few feet?

I don't have that worry with a .45. I don't even care if the goober has body armor. Point blank with .45? He'll wish it HAD penetrated for the kinetic train of force they'd still take deep. The 3rd round goes in the pie hole anyway, so the relief and pain would be short lived... Size does matter in some things.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 10:52 PM
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I'm still a fan of the FnH 5.7 std my personal is a mix between a tauras pt 911 or a kimber .45 desert warrior 2 I own quite a few things though sometimes you may be surprised what is considered a pistol and you really can't conceal it rather it sits nicely at a barrel length of 11.5 inch an fits the LMGAS profile just remember as long as it don't have a buttstock tisk tisk is beautiful under the seat in the welding rig gotta love that ugly pretty bastard sometimes. I know I do!



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 10:56 PM
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The PX4 Storm is one I have been looking into as well as an upgrade from my old S&W40SD I gave my girl. I would want the full size but the range I go to here only has the sub compact for rental so I am gonna give it a go next time I head in there. Which as it seems might be sooner rather than later since I actually have time this month. I will be sure to give you my thoughts on it when I do.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 10:57 PM
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That looks pretty comfortable and concealed. I never could get a decent holster for mine for that purpose.

Ha, .380... well what can we say? I got rid of mine after we went shooting one time and had a bullet bounce right off the Coke bottle. Yeow, that can't be good.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 10:58 PM
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Remington just came out with the R-51, sounds like one I'll be looking into.


Remington R-51


www.thefirearmblog.com...



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:03 PM
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Hijinx
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Unless the world is in absolute chaos this is enormously against the law pretty much north America wide.

I don't really suggest it, as an option. If you shot someone with this in a self defense situation you are going to jail for murder 1. That's premeditated murder, even if the person was trying to rape and kill your family. You created a neurotoxic substance with the intent to kill someone.


I don't dispute that.
This topic, however, is listed in the Survival forum, so, I thought it worth mention as an option to consider (something that would need be prepared for in advance, if only just obtaining and cultivating the plants) should civilization go to complete pot ala most Post-Apocalyptic descriptions.

With Curare, any hit, so long as it's a hit, is a kill.

It's like a sticky black tar once prepared, and as such is easy to apply to anything, and won't wash off easily, so, it's not something finicky that needs be constantly reapplied.

Granted, its effect is not instant, but, it guarantees a successful kill on any target, so long as the target can bet hit, if only once, and can be used in hollow points, or any primitive weapon, even a simple improvised sharpened stick, broken glass; anything that can cut or puncture.

For day to day civilized concealed carry while the rule of law is in effect?
No. I agree on the legality concern, but, as said, if the world goes to total pot where there is no longer any rule of law, there''d be a high advantage in making every target hit, no matter how significant or insignificant, so long as it is a hit, effectively deadly, whether that target is game, or, self defense, running from, or chasing.

What's the saying?
"It's better to have something and not ever need it or even put it to use, than to not have something and need it desperately."




posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:06 PM
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I thought that was pretty interesting myself. It's actually an updated model of the older Beretta Cougar which was the first to utilize the rotating barrel concept. I'm not so sure what I think of it yet but a nice side by side comparison ,which this thread has me wanting to do tomorrow actually, would help me to get an idea on how beneficial it is.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:10 PM
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Can't go wrong with a Makarov 9mm..light weight and compact but still lethal..Had one for over 2 years and no problems with it.




posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:12 PM
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They look so damn awful lol...and well if I can support a company from the US I will. Not to say I'd sacrifice quality to support US manufactured stuff but when S&W is making a prettier copy of a well designed gun and it's made here it will win my vote every time.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:20 PM
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Bassago
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That looks pretty comfortable and concealed. I never could get a decent holster for mine for that purpose.

Ha, .380... well what can we say? I got rid of mine after we went shooting one time and had a bullet bounce right off the Coke bottle. Yeow, that can't be good.


If it was an empty, plastic bottle... then you need to know that it is commonplace for anything 40 cal or lower, unless you hit it exactly center on. The bottle may fly and skitter 5 yards, but still not have a scratch.

On the other hand, fill it with liquid so it cannot distend, and a 22 short will rip it up.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:32 PM
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May I suggest grenade ?
After all, gun is for killing, why bother leaving it intact if its dead ? Its not like you gonna eat it I presume ?

So, grenade and get it done with flying colors.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:36 PM
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S&W bodyguard 380, if you are looking for something compact and accurate.

Edit: never had the coke bottle problem. You had to have nicked the side or something? I mean, it's less powerful than a 9, but a 380 is not something you want flying at you. Reloads?
Couple your S&W BG with some Critical Defense and have no concerns and very little weight.
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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:38 PM
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Might I suggest the Glock 23 chambered in .40. There is a good reason why almost every police force in North America uses them.

Bassago ... Your best advice was in your first reply. No reason to lie to you, brother. The popularity of the G23 also means everything else you'll want to buy for it can be found ... easily and cheap.

Hickok45 has a bunch of firearms profiled on his YouTube channel.

When it's too hot in Florida to wear an appropriate shirt, I carry a S&W 640 in my pants pocket. Points well on the draw, but kicks hard on .357s. My wife only uses her's with .38s on the range ... not even +Ps. There's a real advantage to a hammerless wheel gun ... but I wouldn't want to fire it from my pants pocket for practice (cylinder side blast).

I hope you follow-up in this thread before you commit to a purchase.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:44 PM
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I look at your list and i ask.. what do you need? lol.

My next suggestion would be a CZ83, but you've carried so many.
I sincerely would choose the BG over the Bersa in 380 though. Just don't use cheap cheap ammo like Tula.



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 12:03 AM
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I'll post my final choices before I buy and hopefully get some final feedback.

I know the Glock's are popular but they are just so ugly (to me anyway.) Sorry mean no offense to the Glock owners.

I pretty much miss all my old wheel guns. That's probably going to influence my final choice. Must be the old Wyatt Earp syndrome kicking in.



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