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1929 Stock Market chart update, coincidence or something else

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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 10:13 PM
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HanzHenry

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It also bears considering that the main contributor to economic recovery after that was World War 2,


with Europe in rubble, USA was the only game in town with manufacturing. ONLY reason we had it so good was that fact.

We need to turn the third world into rubble, this time to get our jobs back


If you want to bring the jobs back you need to get rid of the Republicans. When Obama offered to cut taxes to these companies so they would bring jobs back the Republicans did everything they could to stop it from happening. The Republicans are doing everything they can to crash the American economy. The people should have realized this when they bailed out Wall Street and the banks.




posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 10:34 PM
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That is a ridiculous generalization of the problem. Historically, republicans are supposed the be the ones promoting anti-socialist ideals such as minimal taxes for the big corporations and the democrats are supposed to be the ones undermining the free market with their wealth redistribution schemes and bailouts for bankrupted businesses. Rand Paul is a republican and so was his father, neither of them support government bailouts or wealth redistribution, but they do support a minimal sized government with minimal tax rates. But they are obviously not the norm within the republican party and what you are saying does have some truth to it. But the fact it does have some truth it just shows how backwards and distant from their party ideals politicians have become.
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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 10:39 PM
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Does nobody remember the timewave thread?!

This doesn't mean squat. Why are the graphs not closer together? You'd see a larger gap than this position shows.

Why the chosen start or end dates? Do we see any other cycles match this time gap prior to this supposed one?

I don't think this is anything other than attempting to fool people.

I saw similar charts a couple years ago, and guess what? They never panned out.

It was showing 1929 mirroring 2008, and then the 1933 crash mirroring 2012.

That didn't happen!

Why don't we see this imposed over 1933? Where would the crash of 2008 have been? Was there a crash in 1924-5ish?! NO!

It doesn't make any sense, LOL!
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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 10:50 PM
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I saw similar charts a couple years ago, and guess what? They never panned out.

You saying it doesn't prove anything. Find the graph and post it here. Though I some how doubt you will find it, and even if you do I doubt it will show mirroring anything close to what we are seeing here. Nearly every bump and dip in the graph is being mirrored. It doesn't take a mathematical genius to understand the astronomical odds of those two trends just being so similar by pure coincidence.
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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 10:51 PM
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If you want to bring the jobs back you need to get rid of the Republicans. When Obama offered to cut taxes to these companies so they would bring jobs back the Republicans did everything they could to stop it from happening. The Republicans are doing everything they can to crash the American economy. The people should have realized this when they bailed out Wall Street and the banks.

 


But wait.

Democrats had full control of Congress for Obama's first 2 years !!

Where were they THEN?

Democrats also had full control of Congress in 2007 and 2008.

They bailed out the banks (loans got paid back btw)

How come Obama's stimulus failed so bad?




posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:02 PM
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That's just not correct in the least. There are plenty of bumps that are left out

You are choosing to not address my other reasoning, because then you'd have to admit this makes no freaking sense whatsoever.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:03 PM
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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. George Orwell / George Santayana

Speaking of Repeats

Reichstag fire = Twin Towers Building 7 Pentagon aka 911




Patriot Act = The McCarran Act aka International Security Act of 1950 = Nazi Germany = Enabling Act of 1933

Stock Market Crash Pattern Predicts Future Bear Market Behaviour
Stock-Markets / Stocks Bear Market Dec 27, 2008 - 04:36 PM GMT

By: Joseph_Rouse
www.marketoracle.co.uk...







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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:07 PM
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If you want to bring the jobs back you need to get rid of the Republicans



Yeah! Get rid of all the republicans. Put'em in some sort of camp! All we need is that one perfect party with no opposing parties, I'm sure that will turn out great.

Not really. Bush started this mess and Obama just kept it going. I don't know how you can contort reality to fit your bias. The truth is, if the Democrats wanted to get something done, they would have 4 years ago. This isn't 2008 anymore, Obama is on his second term, I think it's time to stop blaming one party and realize they're all to blame.

As far as I'm concerned, Obama is Bush, in Democrat form, like it or not. I'm sure they both enjoy their exorbitant kickbacks.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:12 PM
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That's just not correct in the least. There are plenty of bumps that are left out

Yes but the degree to which they match is simply outstanding and extremely improbable, and if you cannot see that or admit that then I don't know what to tell you. You're simply denying what is right in front of your face.


You are choosing to not address my other reasoning, because then you'd have to admit this makes no freaking sense whatsoever.

Your other "reasoning" was nonsensical and wont be addressed until it makes logical sense.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:14 PM
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So what you're saying is,.....BUY BUY BUY!!!??



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:28 PM
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The scale on the two charts has been distorted, with a 12,000 vs. 18,000 and a 150 vs 450 - so a ratio of 2:3 on the left and 1:4 on the right. That's what I noticed, however - I still think signs point to a market correction.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 11:40 PM
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The scales of the 2 graphs are off. The current market showed a 23% increase from the start of the graph to the dotted line coming down or right after new years 2014. The 1928-1929 graph shows a 97% increase from the start of the graph to the dotted line coming down... (eyeballing the graph)

Now the 1928-1929 graph doesn't have dates so I can only hope that this was overlaid as a 2 year period directly as the current graph is, but that's a guess because there are no dates for that shown.

It's very misleading. 1928 was something like 4 times more volatile in just that part of the graph I looked at (part trending up)..

Come on now..

Makes me feel like I am looking at Ron Pauls numbers on bar graphs again. Just change the scaling so it looks like he barely had more online votes, but look at the numbers and he has 3 times as many..


Off by a factor of 4... Not even Fox is that ballsy..
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posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 03:36 AM
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Of course the left axis has been scaled to highlight the features in the line. That's irrelevant, what matters is the underlying trends apparent in the data. If both lines continue to follow each other so perfectly then we can expect a very large collapse. Fair enough, the 1929 data has a more dramatic change ratio, meaning the collapse wont be as huge as it was in 1929 in terms of total percent change, but it could get down to 13200 within the next 3 months if both lines continue to stick together, and I'd say that's bad enough to warrant concern...



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 03:42 AM
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Relevant:







"23 days aligns with the low end on Monday. And subsequent to that, we had a four-day rally, and then the market unraveled — went down 48%. We are currently at that inflection point. Like I said, so far, everything is aligned. We think the next two to three days are extremely critical."

www.zerohedge.com...



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 07:39 AM
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So copout, and admittance that you've got nothing.

Check.

It's not "extremely improbable". That only seems to be the case because of how you're choosing to shape the context.

Tell you what, one of us comes back here in May and tells the other how much of a fool they were.

Deal?
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posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 07:57 AM
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If you guys are so great at predicting future outcomes I would have expected you to have made tons of money on the last uptick when the markets gained roughly 20%?

If not your speculation is worth nothing and you are just like a child, dough eyed and pointing at pictures.




posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 08:19 AM
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All I can hope is that we learned what not to do in response to a depression and that we don't repeat those same mistakes. But, with who is in charge of the White House right now, that doesn't look like a promising reality.



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 08:33 AM
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Thanks for the post, I will be showing this to my friends and family.



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 09:08 AM
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I rest my case. Look at where things are now vs. 2008
We are still much improved from then and then some.
Sell now, I am ready to buy.
(BTW, I have been in the industry over 35 years and happen to know of what I speak).



posted on Feb, 6 2014 @ 09:14 AM
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The pain of 1929 was amplified by a lack of social programs which are now in place as a direct result of the crash There are also stop trade processes in order to cease computer trading which will force a magnified slide in the market. Finally, the governments are ready to aid liquidity (not necessarily a good thing I admit) to continue mitigating market unrest.
Sell now, I am ready to buy.



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