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So Long, Cigs: Michelle Obama Praises CVS For Pulling Tobacco

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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:15 PM
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Metal detecter :p
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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:16 PM
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Yes wrong...


Saying one thing and doing another is LIP SERVICE.




So a single product had 29 reported linked cases to liver failure...


This thread isn't long enough to list all the people who died from diet pills, and dietary supplements.

I suggest using google.




And you haven't addressed Pharmaceutical drugs... I went back through all your posts in this thread to make sure. You don't mention them ONCE.


Yeah I did RIGHT HERE



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:16 PM
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Don't mis-understand what I'm saying.. I'm not saying the business made it a "liberal thing". I'm saying the liberals ie Obama and his wife decided to make it a "liberal thing". (And as you can see, liberals in this thread are as well) It's not hard to see that there is an overall "liberal" push to ban cigarettes making it yet another case of trying to force people to live a certain way. They even want to do away with E-cigs even though they are helping many people quit smoking and even tho they only contain vapor equivalent to stage smoke, pretty damn ridiculous to want to ban that IMO.

I see nothing wrong with what the business decided, whatever, they can sell or not sell whatever they want. It shouldn't be made into a "liberal thing".
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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:19 PM
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Sovaka
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No... They are allowed to refuse service to anyone that owns a firearm.

But unless they are carrying, how would they know?
Would they institute a questionnaire at the front door?

How could they tell if someone lied?


Dunno.

The point is this;
I agree with businesses to do what they want to do. It's not my business, it is theirs. If they want to sell seal meat on a stick wearing sombreros to eskimo's then that is their business. If they only want to sell to one-legged llama owner's that is their business as well.

It's all about freedom. The owner of the business should be able to determine what he wants to do, what he wants to produce, how he markets it, and to whom he sells it to.

The problem comes in when people try to run their business along the same lines as their religious beliefs. Then, they are hated and discriminated and abused, simply because they tried to run their business how they wanted to run it.

It is a gross hypocrisy on those that applaud one business and condemn another.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:21 PM
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Saying one thing and doing another is LIP SERVICE.


Yes... That's what I said... Now you are agreeing? Ok... Let's move on.



This thread isn't long enough to list all the people who died from diet pills, and dietary supplements.

Actually it is... Because that list isn't all that long at all.



Yeah I did RIGHT HERE

No you didn't... You made a snide remark as to reason why they haven't been banned.
You inferred that they haven't been banned because they bring in too much revenue.

But guess what... Cigarettes weren't banned either... Businesses just need a Federal License to sell them along with Alcohol.
The business chose to no longer sell cigarettes.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:22 PM
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I can remember in the 1980's when the tobacco companies were forced at the end of a government lawsuit to pay well over 250 BILLION USD to the US Government. I can then remember the US Government (in concert with the state governments following suit) commencing with the institution of "sin taxes," driving up the prices of a pack of cigarettes over 5.00 USD in nearly every state.

Without these taxes, a pack of cigarettes might cost .50 USD...

So now, where are the crooks going to turn for their money??? The printing press...or simply declare it is a sin to be alive and breath...



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:23 PM
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beezzer
Dunno.

The point is this;
I agree with businesses to do what they want to do. It's not my business, it is theirs. If they want to sell seal meat on a stick wearing sombreros to eskimo's then that is their business. If they only want to sell to one-legged llama owner's that is their business as well.

It's all about freedom. The owner of the business should be able to determine what he wants to do, what he wants to produce, how he markets it, and to whom he sells it to.

The problem comes in when people try to run their business along the same lines as their religious beliefs. Then, they are hated and discriminated and abused, simply because they tried to run their business how they wanted to run it.

It is a gross hypocrisy on those that applaud one business and condemn another.


I agree and I haven't disagreed yet.
But cigarettes aren't a religious contention...



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:28 PM
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The chain will lose about $2 billion in revenues annually from sales of tobacco in its 7,600 stores


Yeah, I'm sure that all of their competitors are standing right alongside Michelle Obama, applauding them for their courage.


***EDIT***
By the way, to all of you that are cheering CVS for this move; prepare for price increases, because they'll make that loss up on you.
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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:29 PM
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I think people should be thankful that they are no longer able to buy their smokes at CVS. All I know about them is that they are close to the most expensive on everything. Barak may tell you he quit smoking, but he lies. Anyhow, he wouldn't be caught dead buying a pack of newports at CVS, I guarantee. I would try growing tobacco in the snowbank and drying it out in the microwave and then rolling them up in toilet paper before I resorted to buying cigarettes from the likes of a pharmacy, much less CVS. South of the border would be a different story.

On a different note, stock holders in CVS should be pissed about this and dump em. As if they really care about the wellbeing of their consumers.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:31 PM
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Exploitation of the people ?


Yeah exploitation, look up the history of Coca-Cola in Colombia. Slave wages, death squads... fun times.



Like them big pharma state mandated birth control pills


Wow I had no idea I had been mandated to buy birth control pills. Oh you meant... ohhhhh. It's a prescription drug, it should be covered by health insurance plans, which in lieu of full pay is offered by some companies as compensation. So my health insurance plan which I pay 20% and my employer 80% is none of my employers goddamn business whether I get birth control or not if they have a problem with MY health choices and what I do with MY body they can take that 80% and put it into my paycheck and gtfo of my privacy.



That is damn right hysterical at the 'socialist's' corporate fascism


Oxymoron.



I understand socialism quite well.


Per the above, no, you don't... at all.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:32 PM
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By the way, to all of you that are cheering CVS for this move; prepare for price increases, because they'll make that loss up on you.


Well, I'm not so sure it's a "loss". People will just go elsewhere to buy their cigs and others stores will simply sell more. This won't cause anyone to stop smoking.

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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:34 PM
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totallackey
I can remember in the 1980's when the tobacco companies were forced at the end of a government lawsuit to pay well over 250 BILLION USD to the US Government. I can then remember the US Government (in concert with the state governments following suit) commencing with the institution of "sin taxes," driving up the prices of a pack of cigarettes over 5.00 USD in nearly every state.

Without these taxes, a pack of cigarettes might cost .50 USD...

So now, where are the crooks going to turn for their money??? The printing press...or simply declare it is a sin to be alive and breath...


Dude... In the 1980's my corrupt sister was forging notes from my mom authorizing me to buy cigarettes and giving me a handful of change. I was more than happy to do it because I could get me some candy. I was between 6-9 years old. I think you got your decades mixed up.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:34 PM
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Wookiep
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By the way, to all of you that are cheering CVS for this move; prepare for price increases, because they'll make that loss up on you.


Well, I'm not so sure it's a "loss". People will just go elsewhere to buy their cigs and others stores will simply sell more. This won't cause anyone to stop smoking.

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The "loss" would be to CVS, and its patrons who are going to pay higher prices to make that $2 Billion up for the stockholders. Smokers will simply go elsewhere (which most of them already did due to the ridiculous prices CVS charged for tobacco products).



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:35 PM
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Last time I checked, you can still practice any religion you choose. You can worship who or what you want, go to whatever church you want. Nobody's stopping you.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:35 PM
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So my health insurance plan which I pay 20% and my employer 80% is none of my employers goddamn business whether I get birth control or not if they have a problem


Come on now!

What happened to 'their business their rules' ?



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:37 PM
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neo96
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So my health insurance plan which I pay 20% and my employer 80% is none of my employers goddamn business whether I get birth control or not if they have a problem


Come on now!

What happened to 'their business their rules' ?


What I do with my compensation is none of their business.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:37 PM
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crazyewok
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Depends.
If its selling non gay products then no excuse.

If your itsselling a product that actively promotes the gay lifestyle then no it should be a choice for the buisness owner.


A wedding cake is not a "gay" product. A wedding cake is made out of the same ingredients, regardless of who purchases it.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:38 PM
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No dirt off my shoes. Don't even have a CVS where I live. Nearest one is about an hour and a half away. Weird, I get along just fine and have a full supply of "tax-free" brand name smokes whenever I want them.

...CVS Schmebeeess

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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:40 PM
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Because its Government mandated... The Government has overstepped its bounds here and there is plenty of fight on the internet about that.
Plenty of Doctors and practices are boycotting anyone with the new health care plans.

But this thread, YOUR thread, isn't about Government mandated health insurance.
You are trying to take a losing battle and turn it into something it isn't.

Government didn't mandate that CVS stop selling cigarettes.
It was their own choice, which they were allowed to do and were not mandated to do.

Back on topic now.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 05:40 PM
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kaylaluv
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Last time I checked, you can still practice any religion you choose. You can worship who or what you want, go to whatever church you want. Nobody's stopping you.



Sure. Just don't run your business with those same religious principles or freedoms.

Or you'll get fines/sued/insulted



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