reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
Trust me, for 24 years I made it my obsession to have close to hand all the personal liberty and macroeconomic reasons that government regulation of
smoking (and here I mean local ordinances, mostly) was a bad if not catastrophic thing.
Your argument above focuses on two elements: (1) government shouldn't regulate heavily at the level of daily living and (2) there would be massive
unemployment if Big Tobacco suddenly "went away."
(1) I've made many of the utopian libertarian arguments in the past, myself, and I understand the logic. However, I also understand observing the
evidence before me. It seems self-evident to me that the People are anything but capable of looking out for themselves. People do not act in their
own best interest without guidance and direction from somewhere. That is my conclusion based on what I have observed. I know it flies in the face of
the idealistic liberties that some folks believe in, and I'm saddened by that fact. It is real. Government, whether at the Federal, State or local
level is the only way to intervene. Yes, most people do need the equivalent of a "nanny," and that might be the most disappointing thing I've ever
People don't "need" a nanny. You may believe that they do, and that is one opinion. Another would be that they don't, and should be allowed to
walk willingly into hell if they so choose. The only life experience I control is mine, and for a short while that of my children. I don't wish to
control anyone else's life experience. And I realize that it is ludicrous to believe I will.
Take meth as an example. It has never been good for you by any stretch. But what is made today....much more dangerous and much more debilitating.
Had government not involved itself, we would have the blight of the designer drug, meth. Now that they have intervened and made it harder to get the
chemicals used in the orginal recipes, other methodology is utilized to achieve a similar, but more damaging result. You see them walking the
streets....that is what providing a nanny to The People does for you: makes the problem worse.
If humans weren't problem solvers, it likely would be easy to control them. But they are expert problem solvers.....and will find all manner of ways
around any law created.
2). Efforts to make the health-destroying effects of cigarette smoking blatantly clear are not going to send Big Tobacco into a tail-spin overnight
thus creating massive unemployment nationwide tomorrow. The effort to make the public more aware of the clear and present danger has had an effect
over time. We need to do more. Things change. We need to have the deadly effects of this drug in people's faces all the time. You need folks like
me to demonstrate that after a lifetime of exercise and good nutrition, at 47, I can't walk up a short flight of stairs without gasping for breath.
That is the outcome of cigarette use.
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No, it won't. You are right. however there tends to be a smugness that arises out of these sorts of things.
Its not the nicotine in the cigarettes (the "drug") that causes its damage. its the tar in the smoke. So calling it a "drug" isn't going to
help your argument, as the drug aspect isn't the aspect that has caused your health issues. It is the tar.
Which is ONE outcome of cigarette use. There are others, as well. My grandfather died of esophageal cancer (caused by civil service work in missile
silos) when he was in his 80's. He smoked Lucky Strikes from his 20's until the day he died. He also ran his AC and Heating company, crawling
around in 110 degree attics, up until his diagnosis. His is another outcome that can be had with cigarette smoking.
Life is not without risks. I am a fairly bright 41 year old man. I manage to run a company, run a household, and pee without getting it on my hands.
The last thing I need is government mandating my health.
Some insight into that: i grew up with the food pyramid. It recommended a carb/starch heavy diet. After following government guidelines for my
entire life, I ended up at 490lbs when I was 35. I decided at that point that this food pyramid and calorie counting thing was a bunch of nonsense,
and cut the top and bottom off the pyramid altogether.
In 1 year i lost 200lbs. I, like you, couldn't climb stairs without being winded (obviously different reasons). It was when I ignored the wisdom of
the jackass government that I was able to free myself to live again.