The Stock Market In Japan Is COLLAPSING ! Title of article

WonderBoi
reply to post by 727Sky

 

An old lady told me, yesterday, times are a lot harder these days, than they were during World War 2. That can't be good. I asked her, why? She said, there are no jobs. No jobs = no money. She makes flowers out of fabric; so i said to her: if there are no jobs and there is no money; how are you going to sell your products, if people don't have money to buy them? She just stared at me for a moment, as if it never crossed her mind.

Money is absolutely WORTHLESS! If i have a basket of apples or a basket of money; and you were starving, which would you choose???

Oh, how we underestimate the beauty of earth. It's a shame we spend our whole lives chasing something that is worthless! Imagine how beautiful our planet would be, if we learned how to till the land, and barter with each other. Farming land is hard work and society has become lazy. There is NO WAY, things will ever get better. The quicker we face that reality, the quicker we can start working that land and trade the fruits it bears, with each other. OR, die a slow death.

I agree with your sentiment friend, except the point of tillimg the land. While I agree that is ideal. The problem is this. We are artificially and delibrately been sent back to the Dark Age and us Serf's can't own land ! ( Agenda 21 )

The reason I thought that Japan has been the weakest link in the modern world economy is because Japan's debt to GDP ratio is greater than any other in the world. Debt to GDP is the ratio of cash owed versus the product that a country produces each year. When debt exceeds the GDP, then an economy starts digging a hole that gets tougher to fill as each day goes by. If Japan totaly defaults on their debt, I predict that other dominoes will fall.

I think that the US FED will be able to inflate tbe bubble further. There are people that talk every year of a collapse, but I think that the US economy will hold out until 2017, which is when I predict the US $ colllapse. I think most markets are going to go through a corrective phase. All the houses of cards cannot stand forever.

Americans like me had better hope that Japan's economy does "hold up." Japan already has staggering IMF loans, and owes money to a lot of banks worldwide. I want it to hold up because some of the best technical/medical/industrial/and just general science advancements come out of Japan each and every year. Once Japan collapses, it will send shockwaves through their economy, and I don't think the world will continue to see a lot of those advancements for about 20-30 years...until they can rebuild their economy.

Snarl
reply to post by 727Sky

 

Last time this happened there were a lot of jumpers. Curious if they're blocking roof-top access as a precaution. I wouldn't consider the train schedule reliable either as that is another preferred exit strategy.

Japan has a pretty high suicide rate, in front of a lot subways you have some kind of fence nowadays, that only opens the gates when the train has already stopped.
But when you use the train often you still have arround 2-3 delays each week due to some suicides... the Japanese adapted, the cleanup crews are fast and it only takes 15 minutes to get the trains rolling again. As cruel as it sounds, they seem to perfect every work.
Japans economy never really came back from the big bubble burst and is just struggling, as soon as Abe became president a lot of people already knew his plans will fail.

14% isn't bad at all. The US markets are going to have a correction this year, and could easily be three times that. This happens every 4-6 years. It could be the big one that's looming though, and that means the Dow could end up around 4,000-5,000. Sure is gonna be some fun, and great opportunities, either way.

Glassbender777
ITs only a matter of time, when the US markets come crashing down. Ive already moved all of my 401-k out of stocks. I did the same in 2008 just before that crash, and never lost a penny. I just have an uneasy feeling about the markets this time, with real change, following a crash. I say No more bailouts, let the markets crash, and the businesses that cant survive on there own without gov help, well sorry, only the strong survive. We've let this failing system go on too long, its time for some real change, and restructuring of our economy. Its going to be hard, but in the end, our children will thank us, for not continuing on a road to no where, but failure.

You are absolutely correct. If we all accept the reality of this situation, if we somehow could have a global conference with all world leaders on open mics explaining the situation honestly and actual citizens able to call in and ask questions it could possibly get peoples heads wrapped around it.

We have to face this situation and we have to stop running from our problems expecting the future generations to deal with it. We need to face this now and get it over with so humanity can move forward already. I'm tired of this global stalemate, I want my hope back for the future even if I have to suffer for it. Its just sad that the only fear in this situation is the fear of each other because we are so separated as a species.

Time to reap what we've sown my brothers and sisters.

dont you see it?
this is the best way to start a world war.

no one has any money to fight the war!
and US has spent ALL their money on WAR!

I hope they nuc the hell out of US.
get out quick!

reply to post by khimbar


You have, i'm afraid to say, Hit the Nail right on the head.

reply to post by EviLCHiMP


Ultimately there is nothing we can do except prepare for the inevitable , be it two weeks, years or decades from now,the bottom will fall out, and unfortunately we will be the ones (not the few cowards in control) left holding the bag,but all is not lost, once it happens we the people will finally get a chance to take back the country.

727Sky

WonderBoi
reply to post by 727Sky

 

An old lady told me, yesterday, times are a lot harder these days, than they were during World War 2. That can't be good. I asked her, why? She said, there are no jobs. No jobs = no money. She makes flowers out of fabric; so i said to her: if there are no jobs and there is no money; how are you going to sell your products, if people don't have money to buy them? She just stared at me for a moment, as if it never crossed her mind.

Money is absolutely WORTHLESS! If i have a basket of apples or a basket of money; and you were starving, which would you choose???

Oh, how we underestimate the beauty of earth. It's a shame we spend our whole lives chasing something that is worthless! Imagine how beautiful our planet would be, if we learned how to till the land, and barter with each other. Farming land is hard work and society has become lazy. There is NO WAY, things will ever get better. The quicker we face that reality, the quicker we can start working that land and trade the fruits it bears, with each other. OR, die a slow death.

That sounds all well and good and I admire the sentiment however: I live overseas in a farming community. It is up a dawn and work in the fields all day every day. The people look like they are 80 when they reach 50 and that is wearing hats and long sleeve shirts and pants in 100 degree temps. People try and get most done by 11 am because the heat can kill a normal person.. There is a difference between someone who plays in a garden and someone who has to depend on their farm for survival.

Our crops are rotated between rice and vegetables but the work never stops. One thing to dream, it is altogether different to do.

I just wanted to say that I think that the two of you both made very, very good points.

I know this much.....Environmental destruction, liars, corruption, lobbyists, and the federal reserve need to be eradicated yesterday. Until we as a species face that, we will be unable to fix ourselves back onto a positive course for our children, and all future people who have a right to live their life somewhat in peace while on planet Earth.

I don't claim to have all the answers, but I do know this much my friends, We human beings better start learning to work with one another, otherwise those who desire to divide us all, will continue to rule us all. It's just that simple. If we truly could all just work together for a better world, my what a world that would be.

I do realize that it's just a pipe dream, but like Jack Horner (Burt Reynolds) famously said in the movie Boogie Nights, "But it's my dream". ~$heopleNation

aLLeKs
Japan has a pretty high suicide rate, in front of a lot subways you have some kind of fence nowadays, that only opens the gates when the train has already stopped.

Actually the suicide rate in China is higher, it's called the result of forced SLAVE LABOR.

But when you use the train often you still have arround 2-3 delays each week due to some suicides... the Japanese adapted, the cleanup crews are fast and it only takes 15 minutes to get the trains rolling again. As cruel as it sounds, they seem to perfect every work.

As I am sure you're already aware of, that is because the Japanese are very efficient people. They are far from any economic WEAK LINK.

Japans economy never really came back from the big bubble burst and is just struggling, as soon as Abe became president a lot of people already knew his plans will fail.

Really now? So who are these "a lot of people" that you're talking about? I am just asking, cause I have only some knowledge concerning Japanese politics. I am certainly not claiming to be an expert on it, but maybe we should all consider what ABE inherited after he took office? Just the same, That's what the liberals here in the USA said about Obama after he took over office from Bush. Seems to me that over there, it's just the same bankster controlled circus side show as it is over here.

Abe also has had to deal with the Tsunami, and the fallout at Fukushima Daiichi. Something tells me that this disaster caused a lot of friction within the Japanese government, and effected their foreign policy immediately after him taking office, not to mention long before.

Can anyone imagine the blackmail that went on behind the scenes regarding it all? TEPCO and GE, influencing Japanese political puppets that even beforehand already hung off of their strings, for that matter? The cover up of Fukushima is all about international economics, and international exports from Japan. Anyone with a brain understands fully what is going on.

Allow me to finish with this. I wish the people of Japan the best of luck concerning it all. I really hope everything ends for the greater good for them, and for everyone here on planet Earth. Ok, I am done ranting once again now! ~$heopleNation

SheopleNation

aLLeKs
Japan has a pretty high suicide rate, in front of a lot subways you have some kind of fence nowadays, that only opens the gates when the train has already stopped.

Actually the suicide rate in China is higher, it's called the result of forced SLAVE LABOR.

But when you use the train often you still have arround 2-3 delays each week due to some suicides... the Japanese adapted, the cleanup crews are fast and it only takes 15 minutes to get the trains rolling again. As cruel as it sounds, they seem to perfect every work.

As I am sure you're already aware of, that is because the Japanese are very efficient people. They are far from any economic WEAK LINK.

Japans economy never really came back from the big bubble burst and is just struggling, as soon as Abe became president a lot of people already knew his plans will fail.

Really now? So who are these "a lot of people" that you're talking about? I am just asking, cause I have only some knowledge concerning Japanese politics. I am certainly not claiming to be an expert on it, but maybe we should all consider what ABE inherited after he took office? Just the same, That's what the liberals here in the USA said about Obama after he took over office from Bush. Seems to me that over there, it's just the same bankster controlled circus side show as it is over here.

Abe also has had to deal with the Tsunami, and the fallout at Fukushima Daiichi. Something tells me that this disaster caused a lot of friction within the Japanese government, and effected their foreign policy immediately after him taking office, not to mention long before.

Can anyone imagine the blackmail that went on behind the scenes regarding it all? TEPCO and GE, influencing Japanese political puppets that even beforehand already hung off of their strings, for that matter? The cover up of Fukushima is all about international economics, and international exports from Japan. Anyone with a brain understands fully what is going on.

Allow me to finish with this. I wish the people of Japan the best of luck concerning it all. I really hope everything ends for the greater good for them, and for everyone here on planet Earth. Ok, I am done ranting once again now! ~$heopleNation

edit on 5-2-2014 by SheopleNation because: TypO

1. I did not say Japan has the highest rate, just a pretty high rate. To be honest I have no idea how high they are in the "suicide rankings", but I lived there quite some time and you can really buy books about suicide and how to do it the right way everywhere. When you live there, you will encounter a suicide personally sooner or later

2. Japanese people are not efficient at all, or lets say they are only efficient if you tell them the right way to do something in detail. I worked as engineer in Japan and Japanese people are not used to think for themselves. They will ask you questions on how to do something, even the easiest things need to be explainend sometimes, otherwise they will do it in their own, a lot of times inefficient, way.
I realized, a lot of Japanese people do a lot of overtime... not because they work so hard, no, because they work inefficient. They did the same work that I did in 2 in 8 hours. Maybe it is because I am German, but I was not used to it at all. Like I said as soon as they have a standard procedure for something, they will perfect it, but if you work in an enviroment that needs ways to be found, they are inefficient.

3. I have a lot of friends in Japan and nobody expected the stock market to be stable. Actually a lot of them were speculating about a crash already last year. I personally don't like Abe, I think he is to much of a nationalist. This will prevent Japan even more from getting back on his feet. The Yen is way to weak and something needs to be done, what the right way is? I have no idea, I do not claim to be an expert, but Japanese economy is broken.

InFriNiTee
In my own household, I predicted this last year. Once the weakest link (Japan) starts to shatter economically, the rest of the global financial system would not be far behind. The great depression. version 2.014. I agree that if the fed keep printing paper, it will stay afloat a little longer. What we have to ask now is how far will that tapering go?

Someone in my family said that Janet Yellin was appointed to the FED CHAIR position so "they could have a woman as the fall person when the market collapses." That family member may have been right about what they said. TIme will tell.

The Fed doesn't print - it borrows money and lends it to the USA. The USA has been borrowing money from the FED to pay interest on the money it borrowed from the FED. Now the whole world has been used to this going on for a decade. Every country decided to invest their rainy-day funds on the bonds that the USA provided for cash. Many countries developed inflation based economies because of this.

Japan just had a shock a few days ago when Sony sold off their PC division - those Vaio laptops. That's almost like an end-of-an-era for the Japanese. The PC and PC component market is shrinking.

reply to post by aLLeKs


Well thank you for listening to my rant anyway. It sounds like you have much more experience with the Japanese. Seems like the whole World economy is going to crash.

The Japanese I know are American, which I suppose is very different. Yeah I have heard about the suicide subject over there. That suicide forest is pretty strange I must say.

German huh? Yeah you guys are definitely efficient. I am American, but my Grandmother's side of the family is from Germany. ~$heopleNation

I'll believe it when I see it.

Financial doom porn is as bad as NWO doom porn which isnt as bad as religious doom porn.

So much doom and not enough porn.

all2human
And the strategy for recovering from such a crash is? most people as is are two paychecks from the streets, tell me people won't get mean and destructive when their power goes out and can't feed their families

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The idiots that do this will be the ones that have been properly programmed since birth.

The people that keep cool heads, help each other, and not resort to chaos will fair well.

The only people that get hurt when the SHTF is the little guy. Time to change this miserable path.

Fire up that printer baby!

Dilution is the solution

edit: Don't worry.. yet. Once the USDJPY slips below the magic 102, then worry if you have money in JPY.

(I'm being sarcastic btw )

Let's not forget that if (when) this market takes a tumble then there will be no bail out. As Cyprus found out... Bail in is now the prefered option. Even more reason to start a run on the banks? Whenever it happens I'll guarantee it happens at the weekend or bank hols to prevent the run before they've took your money

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