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Originally posted by TrueLies
In my research regarding the Freemason's, United States Presidents and The Masonic Power Structure I was constantly running into the number 13 and 33. This research confirmed that most of the founding fathers were Masons. It also confirmed that most of the Presidents were Masons.
Originally posted by Lastday Prophet
I did a post with a little more info that backs up what you are saying here.
[taken from your thread]
The Number Of His Name Is "13"
Here Is Why.
13 Is the number of rebellion
Ge 14:4 Twelve years they served Chedorlaomer, and in the thirteenth year they rebelled.
Another Number Is "3"
2Ki 24:1 In his days Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came up, and Jehoiakim became his servant three years: then he turned and rebelled against him.
Some Other Verses That Have 3's or 13's
De 1:43 So I spake unto you; and ye would not hear, but rebelled against the commandment of the LORD, and went presumptuously up into the hill.
De 9:23 Likewise when the LORD sent you from Kadeshbarnea, saying, Go up and possess the land which I have given you; then ye rebelled against the commandment of the LORD your God, and ye believed him not, nor hearkened to his voice.
2Ki 3:5 But it came to pass, when Ahab was dead, that the king of Moab rebelled against the king of Israel.
2Ki 3:7 And he went and sent to Jehoshaphat the king of Judah, saying, The king of Moab hath rebelled against me: wilt thou go with me against Moab to battle? And he said, I will go up: I am as thou art, my people as thy people, and my horses as thy horses.
2Ch 13:6 Yet Jeroboam the son of Nebat, the servant of Solomon the son of David, is risen up, and hath rebelled against his lord.
2Ch 36:13 And he also rebelled against king Nebuchadnezzar, who had made him swear by God: but he stiffened his neck, and hardened his heart from turning unto the LORD God of Israel.
Isa 1:2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.
Isa 63:10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.
Jer 52:3 For through the anger of the LORD it came to pass in Jerusalem and Judah, till he had cast them out from his presence, that Zedekiah rebelled against the king of Babylon.
La 1:20 Behold, O LORD; for I am in distress: my bowels are troubled; mine heart is turned within me; for I have grievously rebelled: abroad the sword bereaveth, at home there is as death.
La 3:42 We have transgressed and have rebelled: thou hast not pardoned.
Eze 2:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me: they and their fathers have transgressed against me, even unto this very day.
Eze 20:13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.
Ho 13:16 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.
Revelation "13" Is All About The Rebellion Against God Under The Rule Of The Beast
Originally posted by monkeipeg
Kind of taking that too far? Who's to say those aren't just coincidences? How can you take that information, and assume the masons control Hollywood and whatever else you were saying. It's a nice..concept, but it's just that. No one knows the real truth.
Originally posted by Sauron
I read somewhere that American Presidents swear on a Masonic bible during inauguration ? I dont know if there is such a bible, just something I have wondered about. and if true why would they
Originally posted by Mirthful Me
The more compelling nuance (IMO) is the chapter and verse the Bible is opened to for the ceremony...
Originally posted by The Axeman
MM, my good monkey, could you possibly expand on this? Perhaps divulge which chapter and verse the ceremony uses?
Inquiring minds want to know...
Originally posted by Agnis
So, Freemasons again are responsible for everything that has ever happened... With your method, I guess, it is possible to prove anything that comes in mind.
[edit on 22-11-2004 by Agnis]
Originally posted by TrueLies
Everything that has ever happened? That's a pretty broad jump to make...
My method??? method of what? I guess it's possible to say that you are jumping the gun to discredit this thread... Broad generalizations are far less credible then Robert who researched and wrote about this topic...
Sure something can be coincidental but all the symbolism screams of intent... How can you argue with coincidence after coincidence? When does a coincidence not become a coincidence anymore?