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11, 13 and 33 The Illuminati / Freemason Signature

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posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 11:04 AM
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by Robert Howard

In my research regarding the Freemason's, United States Presidents and The Masonic Power Structure I was constantly running into the number 13 and 33. This research confirmed that most of the founding fathers were Masons. It also confirmed that most of the Presidents were Masons. My first run in with 13 of course was the 13 colonies. Second was the great Seal.

For a detailed look at the number 11 see Destruction of the Trade Centers: Occult Symbolism Indicates Enemies Within Our Own Government


"The numbers 3, 7, 9,11,13, 33, 39. Any multiple of these numbers have special meaning to the Illuminati. Notice that the Bilderberg Group has core of 39 members who are broken into 3 groups of 13 members in each group. Notice that the core of 39 answers to the 13 who make up the Policy Committee. Take special notice that the 13 members of the Policy Committee answer to the Round Table of Nine. You know that the original number of states in the United States of America was 13. The Constitution has 7 articles and was signed by 39 members of the Constitutional Convention." Secret Societies / New World Order: by Milton William Cooper

Occultists the world over believe that, once a symbol is created, it acquires power of its own, and more power is generated when such symbol(s) are created without the profane [uninitiated] knowing about it. And, the greatest power of all is created in the symbol(s) if the uninitiated NEVER discover that the symbol exists. MASONIC SYMBOLS OF POWER IN THEIR SEAT OF POWER -- WASHINGTON, D.C.




There are 13 leaves on the left olive branch with 13 berries. 13 stripes on the middle shield. 13 arrows on the right. 13 stars above the eagles head. 13 letters in the "E Pluribus Unum" on the ribbon. 13 letters in Annuit Coeptis. There are 13 blocks top to bottom on the pyramid. Fritz Springmeir in his The 13 Bloodlines says these 13 blocks represent the 13 Satanic family's.


n the circles at the end of the hexagram points it even spells the word Mason.

The Roman Numerals at the bottom of the Pyramid: MDCCLXXVI

We do not have to add them together to get the MARK OF THE BEAST OR THE NUMBER OF HIS NAME. John does not tell us to ADD THEM TOGETHER. It is not that we cannot add them together, but the point is John does not TELL US TO ADD THEM TOGETHER. We then will take a different tact to solve the riddle. We will use EXACTLY WHAT THE BIBLE TELLS US: 600, 60 and 6. We will start with the REVERSE GREAT SEAL, the SEAL THAT DANIEL GAVE TO US. Embedded at the base of the PYRAMID ARE THE ROMAN NUMERICAL LETTERS: "MDCCLXXVI".




Now you would normally read that as 1776, which is correct. THAT IS THE "OBVIOUS" MEANING OF THOSE LETTERS. But what is the HIDDEN NUMERICAL VALUE OF THOSE LETTERS? And what if we took all of the Roman Numerals together and added them up? The Romans used the following letters for their number system: DCLXVI with D=500, C=100, L=50, X=10, V=5, nd I - 1. The M letter was not used until much later. Now if we take these letters and add them all up, we come to 666. If we take them as Scripture gives the number, we come up with this in descending order: www.truinsight.com... External Link




There are 13 stars in the Masons square on the treasury seal on the right. The Department=13 of the treasury=13.

E.W. Bullinger writes:

"As to the significance of thirteen, all are aware that it has come down to us as a number of ill-omen. Many superstitions cluster around it, and various explanations are current concerning them.

"Unfortunately, those who go backwards to find a reason seldom go back far enough. The popular explanations do not, so far as we are aware, go further back than the Apostles. But we must go back to the first occurrence of the number thirteen in order to discover the key to its significance. It occurs first in Gen. xiv. 4, where we read 'Twelve years they served Chedorlaomer, and the thirteenth year they REBELLED.'

"Hence every occurrence of the number thirteen, and likewise of every multiple of it, stamps that with which it stands in connection with rebellion, apostasy, defection, corruption, disintegration, revolution, or some kindred idea." (Bullinger, E.W. Number in Scripture, Kregel Publications, (c)1967, p. 205).

Was not the founding of America in REBELLION of England? The number 13 and 33 is the freemasons number.

I remember reading somewhere that this wasn't witches at all. It was Christian women who caught the elite using witchcraft and they were burned at the stake instead.

In the Nation's Capitol the father of "ONE nation under God," George Washington, is memorialized in the rotunda ceiling on a mural entitled, The Apophiosis of Washington. The mural pictures the nations first father surrounded by 13 maidens.

On August 6, 1945 at 8:15 a.m. United States B-29 bomber Enola Gay, on Mission No. 13, dropped an atomic bomb called "Little Boy" on Hiroshima, Japan near the 33rd Parallel. This was "Day One" of a new age, the Nuclear Age. To understand the change that took place, we must back up and look at the importance of the number 13 from the formation of the United States to the atomic bomb's explosion in Hiroshima.

In 1935, Paul Foster Case wrote: "Since the date, 1776, is placed on the bottom course of the pyramid [on the Great Seal], and since the number 13 has been so important in the history of the United States and in the symbols of the seal, it is not unreasonable to suppose that the thirteen courses of the pyramid may represent thirteen time-periods of thirteen years each." The 13 time-periods of 13 years each equaled 169 years. From July 4, 1776 to July 4, 1945 equaled 169 years. From July 4, 1945 to August 6, 1945 (Hiroshima) was 33 days.

"President Kennedy was wounded in the exact three same spots as Hiram Abif, who was murdered in the Masonic initiation, representing the persecution of the Templars on Friday, the 13th, in the year 1307, where Hiram Abif is struck in the back, and in the throat, and in the head. Dealey Plaza is just a very few short miles from the 33rd parallel. The highest degree of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, the Meritorious Degree, the Degree of the Illuminati, whose motto is "Ordo Ab Chao" or "Out of Chaos Comes Order"--which literally means if they break down the existing structure and cause the population to cry out for order, they will emerge as the rulers and will have the world that they seek." United States Presidents And The Masonic Power Structure

May 13, 1914 - Fatima Vision
May 13, 1941 - Stalin divides Russia into 7 districts in preparation for war
May 13,1981 - Pope's attempted assassination
May 13, 2000 - Third secret partially revealed. Relates to Popes shooting on May 13, 1981
May 13, 2000 Pope alludes to the Beast rising out of the sea in Revelation. The Beast has 7 heads.
May 13, 2000 Putin divides Russia into 7 districts in preparation for-?

The Cuban missile crisis lasted 13 days, which suggests a ploy or fake crisis. The upcoming movie is even entitled "13 Days."

Many movies have the number 13 in the title. 13 Frightened Girls (1963), 13 East Street (1952), 13 Floors (1991), 13 West Street (1962), 13 Fighting Men (1960), 13 Ghosts (1960), A remake of this movie is in the process right now. 13 Lead Soldiers (1948), 13 Men and a Gun (1938), Apollo 13 (1995). 6 Days and Seven Nights with Harrison Ford. 6+7=13. We even have a rating for movies PG-13. In case you didn't know it, Hollywood is owned by the masons. Obvious isn't it. John Wayne was a mason. How many of us played cowboys and Indians.


No one wanted to be the Indian. Indians got killed we all knew that. This was Hollywood's way of glorifying the mass murder of a race of people. Same way in Germany. The kids played Nazi SS and Jews. Every kid wanted to be a Nazi, never the Jew or Christian.

Gene Rodenberry creator of Star Trek series was a mason. Even the name Vulcan was the name of a false Roman god.


Forbidden knowledge


*Weird.... My favorite number since I was a kid was 13*
Enjoy the read!



[edit on 22-11-2004 by TrueLies]




posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 11:17 AM
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I did a post with a little more info that backs up what you are saying here.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

A Link with many of the Symbols in use now:

www.samliquidation.com...

[edit on 22-11-2004 by Lastday Prophet]



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by TrueLies
In my research regarding the Freemason's, United States Presidents and The Masonic Power Structure I was constantly running into the number 13 and 33. This research confirmed that most of the founding fathers were Masons. It also confirmed that most of the Presidents were Masons.


Most U.S. Presidents were/are not Freemasons. Only fourteen of the 43 U.S. Presidents have been or currently are Freemasons (the only living one being Gerald Ford, the last elected one being Harry Truman). Not exactly a "most".

Some interesting links.

www.pagrandlodge.org...

www....-------------------------/library/conspiracy/freemasonry/



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by Lastday Prophet
I did a post with a little more info that backs up what you are saying here.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



[taken from your thread]
The Number Of His Name Is "13"
Here Is Why.
13 Is the number of rebellion
Ge 14:4 Twelve years they served Chedorlaomer, and in the thirteenth year they rebelled.
Another Number Is "3"
2Ki 24:1 In his days Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came up, and Jehoiakim became his servant three years: then he turned and rebelled against him.
Some Other Verses That Have 3's or 13's

De 1:43 So I spake unto you; and ye would not hear, but rebelled against the commandment of the LORD, and went presumptuously up into the hill.
De 9:23 Likewise when the LORD sent you from Kadeshbarnea, saying, Go up and possess the land which I have given you; then ye rebelled against the commandment of the LORD your God, and ye believed him not, nor hearkened to his voice.
2Ki 3:5 But it came to pass, when Ahab was dead, that the king of Moab rebelled against the king of Israel.
2Ki 3:7 And he went and sent to Jehoshaphat the king of Judah, saying, The king of Moab hath rebelled against me: wilt thou go with me against Moab to battle? And he said, I will go up: I am as thou art, my people as thy people, and my horses as thy horses.
2Ch 13:6 Yet Jeroboam the son of Nebat, the servant of Solomon the son of David, is risen up, and hath rebelled against his lord.
2Ch 36:13 And he also rebelled against king Nebuchadnezzar, who had made him swear by God: but he stiffened his neck, and hardened his heart from turning unto the LORD God of Israel.
Isa 1:2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.
Isa 63:10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.
Jer 52:3 For through the anger of the LORD it came to pass in Jerusalem and Judah, till he had cast them out from his presence, that Zedekiah rebelled against the king of Babylon.
La 1:20 Behold, O LORD; for I am in distress: my bowels are troubled; mine heart is turned within me; for I have grievously rebelled: abroad the sword bereaveth, at home there is as death.
La 3:42 We have transgressed and have rebelled: thou hast not pardoned.
Eze 2:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me: they and their fathers have transgressed against me, even unto this very day.
Eze 20:13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.
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Ho 13:16 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

Revelation "13" Is All About The Rebellion Against God Under The Rule Of The Beast



you just gave me shivers....



[edit on 22-11-2004 by TrueLies]



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 11:35 AM
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Kind of taking that too far? Who's to say those aren't just coincidences? How can you take that information, and assume the masons control Hollywood and whatever else you were saying. It's a nice..concept, but it's just that. No one knows the real truth.



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 11:36 AM
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I read somewhere that American Presidents swear on a Masonic bible during inauguration ? I dont know if there is such a bible, just something I have wondered about. and if true why would they



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 11:41 AM
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"I read somewhere that American Presidents swear on a Masonic bible during inauguration ?"

George Washington did. This got conflated to "All Presidents..."



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by monkeipeg
Kind of taking that too far? Who's to say those aren't just coincidences? How can you take that information, and assume the masons control Hollywood and whatever else you were saying. It's a nice..concept, but it's just that. No one knows the real truth.



I'm sure some are coinicidental, but i'm also sure, some are intentional....

How could you take this information and assume that it's ALL coincidental...
Nice concept eh.... no comment there.... read, and this well put together research project shall set you.... straight.

It all jives so well together...

Take out "some" of the coincidences that don't sit well with you, and the word "most" and replace them with what you feel is sufficient, and the rest of the theory should jive pretty well...



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 11:44 AM
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I think a Masonic Bible is used only if the President-elect requests it. Otherwise it is a normal Bible...

I could be wrong, but I think that's the deal...


*BTW, a Masonic Bible is no different that a normal KJV except it has a square and compass on it, and it has some references to passages that are relevant to Freemasonry, as well as a page to record when the Mason was initiated, passed and raised. Maybe some other stuff, but all in all it's just a KJV. I think someone told me that his had the words of Jesus printed in red so as to stand out...*

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posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 11:49 AM
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(The Masons write most of American History, for example the Mason's own Encyclopedia Britannica). The red dates are confirmed Mason Power years over this country as far as the Presidency, or Vice Presidency is concerned. This Page will be updated often. Please revisit.

Legend: (A) American; (AI) American Independent; (D) Democrat. (F) Federalist. (DR) Democrat-Republican. (Ind) Independent. (IR) Independent -Republican (NR) National Republican. (P) People's; (Pr) Progressive; (R) Republican. (S) Socialist; (SR) States Rights (W) Whig. (U) Union.

(S.C.J) Supreme Court Judge

I will let the facts speak for themselves.

As a Mason goes through the 32 degrees of the Scottish rite, he ends up giving worship to every Egyptian pagan god, the gods of Persia, gods of India, Greek gods, Babylonian gods, and others. As you come to the 17th degree, the Masons claim that they will give you the password that will give him entrance at the judgment day to the Masonic deity, the great architect of the universe. It is very interesting that this secret password is "Abaddon".

Revelation 9:11 They had a king over them, the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon" The 'angel' of the Abyss (Hell) is really the chief demon whose name is Abaddon. Masons claim then, that the deity they worship is Abaddon.

www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...

"The world is governed by people far different from those imagined by the public."
Benjamin Disraeli, Victorian-era Prime Minister of Britain,



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by Sauron
I read somewhere that American Presidents swear on a Masonic bible during inauguration ? I dont know if there is such a bible, just something I have wondered about. and if true why would they


There is no such thing as a "Masonic Bible", the prevailing book of holy scripture in North America is the King James Bible (which is sometimes printed with a Square and Compasses on the cover and a few pages in the front for those present at a person's Initiation, Passing and Raising to sign) in unaltered form. The President-Elect has a choice as to what Bible is going to be used (Bill Clinton was sworn into office on a Bible given to him by his grandmother). The more compelling nuance (IMO) is the chapter and verse the Bible is opened to for the ceremony...



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by Mirthful Me
The more compelling nuance (IMO) is the chapter and verse the Bible is opened to for the ceremony...


MM, my good monkey, could you possibly expand on this? Perhaps divulge which chapter and verse the ceremony uses?

Inquiring minds want to know...



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by The Axeman
MM, my good monkey, could you possibly expand on this? Perhaps divulge which chapter and verse the ceremony uses?

Inquiring minds want to know...


Inquire, and you shall be enlightened... The Inauguration of a President has become intensely symbolic, and unfortunately largely ignored...

memory.loc.gov...

Have fun.



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 12:14 PM
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All of this symbol usage cannot be a coincidence.

www.samliquidation.com...



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 12:23 PM
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For those of you who can't accept the idea that the United States has occultic roots should consider the following street layout of Washington D.C. and its meanings.


According to occultists/Satanic doctrine, the upper four points of the Goat head (left) represent the four elements of the world, Fire, Water, Earth, and Air. The bottom fifth point represents the spirit of Lucifer. In the above photocopy of the Goat head Pentagram, the fifth point extends down into the mind of the goat, who represents Lucifer. Notice the above pentagram of the Washington Streets layout in which the south part of the pentagram falls on the White House. Where the Spirit of Satan is to dwell.


On January 20th, in just a few short days, the occult ceremony of Presidential inauguration will take place. The new Commander-in-Chief will face the sacred Egyptian obelisk, known as the Washington Monument, and take the inaugural omens. I have a picture of the inaugural platform as it is being built, and looming above it in the distance is that accursed image in the distance. I have been inside that Egyptian monument to the pagan sun-god on two occasions, and the presence of evil in that place defies description. The pyramid-shaped top of the structure has two windows that are illuminated with red light at night, and the effect is like two glowing red eyes overlooking the city. This 555 foot piece of masonry sometimes casts an ominous shadow across the reflecting pool toward the capitol building, and it is the first object that the sun strikes as it rises over this occult city in the District of Columbia. It is also interesting to note that if you convert the 555 feet of height into inches, it comes out to 6660, which reveals the number of the beast imbedded in the sacred geometry of the structure. It is with this backdrop that the inauguration will take place at the very moment that the witches are celebrating the sun entering the sign of Aquarius. A New Administration Ruled By The Same Illuminati!

In reading Svali's The Illuminati: Interview With Ex Illuminati Programmer in her 2nd series pt12 The Top of the Pyramid she states the following:

(Begin Excerpt) "The United States has been divided into seven different regions geographically. Each region has a 13 member leadership council that coordinates with the local leadership councils (are you getting the idea by now? The Illuminati are set up a lot like "Amway" or any other well-organized business enterprise with a flowchart of accountability for each member). This council will look something like this: Head of council (1), Military (2 seats), Spiritual (2 seats), Scholarship (2 seats), Finances (2 seats), Training (2 seats), Sciences (2 seats). Total: 13 members."

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In President Franklin D. Roosevelt words.

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.")



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 12:35 PM
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I'm sure you all have seen the pentagram of Capitol Hill?

Here is another site that offers a detailed version.

From another site, "David Ovason, working from the fact that there are some 23 zodiacs incorporated into the architecture of Washington DC,"


Did these people find this stuff and claim it as their own, are the facts straight, judging from the masons history, it ain't bragging if it's true. History as we know it, has been written by the conqueror.

[edit on 22-11-2004 by ADVISOR]



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 12:55 PM
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So, Freemasons again are responsible for everything that has ever happened... With your method, I guess, it is possible to prove anything that comes in mind.

[edit on 22-11-2004 by Agnis]



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by Agnis
So, Freemasons again are responsible for everything that has ever happened... With your method, I guess, it is possible to prove anything that comes in mind.

[edit on 22-11-2004 by Agnis]



Everything that has ever happened? That's a pretty broad jump to make...
My method??? method of what? I guess it's possible to say that you are jumping the gun to discredit this thread... Broad generalizations are far less credible then Robert who researched and wrote about this topic...

Sure something can be coincidental but all the symbolism screams of intent... How can you argue with coincidence after coincidence? When does a coincidence not become a coincidence anymore?



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by TrueLies
Everything that has ever happened? That's a pretty broad jump to make...
My method??? method of what? I guess it's possible to say that you are jumping the gun to discredit this thread... Broad generalizations are far less credible then Robert who researched and wrote about this topic...

Sure something can be coincidental but all the symbolism screams of intent... How can you argue with coincidence after coincidence? When does a coincidence not become a coincidence anymore?


There is nothing credible at all about the source you used as a foundation for your thread. I noticed that you conveniently ignored my post that disproved his research on most Presidents being Freemasons. If something as simple as calculating the number of Freemasons out of a group of 43 is beyond his abilities, what other academic shortcomings are likely?

The only coincidence that Im aware of, is the one between poorly researched subjects, and poorly researched thread subjects



posted on Nov, 22 2004 @ 02:50 PM
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Was it just a coincidence that Americans became involved
in so many wars under the jurisdiction of masonry?


1. Revolutionary War provoked by the Boston Tea Party reported to be the activity of Masons. Benjamin Franklin, Paul Revere, George Washington, John Hancock, Alexander Hamilton, Patrick Henry, and some of the signers of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were Masons. It has been authentically reported that all but two of the generals of the Revolutionary War were Masons.

2. Civil War Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses Grant were Masons in waiting.

3. more

[edit on 27/11/2004 by Sauron]



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