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Rand Paul!!!

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posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 12:42 AM
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reply to post by BELIEVERpriest
 
Rand has been bashed on National TV (MSMBC) as being against Israel.

I dont think Rand will get the Israel vote anytime soon. Your argument if Void!!!!




posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 12:44 AM
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hoochymama23
I really dont see how you can equate Rand to "Stalin".

I didn't. I'm illustrating the absurdity of the "lesser of two evils" argument, and the illusion of choice.



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 12:48 AM
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Rand didnt "throw" his support to Romney until the Republican's screwed his Father. He had no choice.

Now, look at the last 8 yrs and see what Rand has done from the inside as a Senator to the Republican establishment. I can tell you right now that Rand has paved his way, over 8 yrs, which I am sure now that Democrats and Republican's are now seeing a potential problem.

The Whole point of Obama being elected was for Hillary to follow.

Everything you think has been reversed on its head. Rand may be a damn Ron Paul CIA agent.


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posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 12:51 AM
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I rebuke that Rand has anything to do with Evil.

If your only argument is that he endorsed Romney than you have a major problem. He had to endorse Romney or else within the Republican party he would of been done.

8 yrs later it proves that made the correct choice.



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 12:52 AM
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hoochymama23
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I see that as a Great Strategy which his Father apparently didn't believe in.

Doesn't the Son have the Opportunity to actually Learn from the mistakes of his Father??

Very Smart Kid Ron Has!!!!!


Possibly he's smart if by smart you mean playing the political left-right, dem-rep game. His father also did this to some extent and look what it got him, marginalized and slandered.

He can't claim to hold the high ground if he play's in the mud with the enemy. By enemy I mean both republican and democrat. If he really wanted to do something for America he'd wash his hands of both dirtbag parties and stand on his supposed Libertarian values. Somehow I doubt he has the fortitude and maybe not even the integrity to do that. Which is a shame.



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 12:56 AM
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Bassago

hoochymama23
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I see that as a Great Strategy which his Father apparently didn't believe in.

Doesn't the Son have the Opportunity to actually Learn from the mistakes of his Father??

Very Smart Kid Ron Has!!!!!


Possibly he's smart if by smart you mean playing the political left-right, dem-rep game. His father also did this to some extent and look what it got him, marginalized and slandered.

He can't claim to hold the high ground if he play's in the mud with the enemy. By enemy I mean both republican and democrat. If he really wanted to do something for America he'd wash his hands of both dirtbag parties and stand on his supposed Libertarian values. Somehow I doubt he has the fortitude and maybe not even the integrity to do that. Which is a shame.


He's about as libertarian as one of my dogs. The 8 lb hairless one. He will switch sides, the little traitor, to anyone who has a raw hotdog in their hand and offers it to him. Kinda like Rand...



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 12:56 AM
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hoochymama23
I rebuke that Rand has anything to do with Evil.

He's a politician. He has intimate knowledge of it.


If your only argument is that he endorsed Romney than you have a major problem.

I never said a word about Romney.


He had to endorse Romney or else within the Republican party he would of been done.

Exactly. He's a politician. He'll do anything to save his own ass, principles be damned. And he's proven it.

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posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 12:58 AM
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Really??

I will not link every Video of RAND PAUL speaking about Liberty as it would take way too much space.

Are you trolling??

His one "Party" stance at the end of the Game to support Romney should not held over his head.

He CANNOT run as a libertarian!!! The two party's say so. That was the reason Ron Paul HAD to run as a Republican.

Do you People even know our Recent History let alone History made in the last 20 years?? Ever since Ross Perot we basically cant have a third party run for POTUS.



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 01:01 AM
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Look at any of his Senate Hearings. Behind the doors of the American Public he is just as ruthless as his father. Quit being so "senile" because he was forced to endorse Romney knowing his Father was screwed by the establishment.

I guarantee that his Father told him to do that!!!



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 01:03 AM
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We'll see my friend. No man becomes president without the obligatory pilgramage to the Holy Land. The last president to cross Israel had his head blown off.

Once upon a Glenn Beck was an All American Republican, now he's putting on the Libertarian Super Hero suite.

All Im saying is that these politicians adapt to the media at the expence of the citizens.



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 01:03 AM
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So, according to you, no matter who is in Congress, the Senate, or the POTUS they are all Evil??

A Politician is Evil no matter what.

Please, go look up some Senate hearings of Rand Paul, take them in, listen to them, digest them, also remember these are on Record, than come back and speak the same drivel.



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 01:04 AM
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they don't count votes anymore - they don't even pretend to ---- they are going to coronate that lying, murdering, c#### hillary in, no matter what...

I will do my civic duty and vote against her, on principle - but, watch them do it....



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 01:05 AM
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Hoochy.. I like you and understand why you like Rand. Dont be upset, just giving our opinions and you know what they say about those
We are truly screwed no matter how you look at it.. and Rand wont be president. If he ran and God came down and endorsed him.. he would not win this one. I think we are going to have to pay for allowing things to get as far as they have...

My husband were on our way to vote last year and he said something to the effect of : We have poop in our left hand and turds in our right hand.. and we are seriously even talking about which will taste better?? Bah...



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 01:06 AM
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I totally understand that point. But aren't we at the Point that it doesn't matter anymore??

I understand the following:

Bush1 = Clinton = Bush2 = Obama

That covers what, 28 years?? Are you kidding me right now?? We are that Stupid??

Regardless, there has to be a Major Change.



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 01:09 AM
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I am not upset. I remember 6 yrs ago that this site was Buzzing for a change. Now, no buzz.

I guess we live with Hilary and take it.

There was a reason that Ron was successful. There was reason he was not. I believe his Son will change all that.



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 01:13 AM
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hoochymama23
So, according to you, no matter who is in Congress, the Senate, or the POTUS they are all Evil??

Yes.


Please, go look up some Senate hearings of Rand Paul, take them in, listen to them, digest them, also remember these are on Record, than come back and speak the same drivel.

I've heard them. I don't believe a word. He's a politician. You can't trust politicians. We all know this. So do you.



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 01:15 AM
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Are you trolling??

His one "Party" stance at the end of the Game to support Romney should not held over his head.

He CANNOT run as a libertarian!!! The two party's say so. That was the reason Ron Paul HAD to run as a Republican.


No I'm not trolling and I absolutely hold his support of Romney against him and over his head.

As far as "the two party's say so" I say BS to that and them. They're what put the US in this miserable place to begin with. Voting for either of them is admitting that you've already given up.

Yeah, Ron Paul who I greatly respect did run as Republican and look how that turned out. Maybe the son should learn from the father. Many of his supporters urged him again and again to go Independent and he didn't. He was ultimately sidelined and labeled a crank by his own party.



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 01:17 AM
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I feel you but there are SOME Gongressman/Women and SOME Senate Man/Women who actually uphold the Constitution and those are the ones we should research and Vote For.

You may not be from this Country or You may live in California.

If you live in Cali I feel your pain. But, if Ron or Rand were on my Ballet in Cali I would Vote for the First Time!!!



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 01:22 AM
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No disrespect, if Ron would of run Independent he wouldn't have a chance to be on the ballot regardless.

Now, considering the Powerful Republican's who wanted Romney, what strategic way would of you gone?? I think you would of taken your chances as a Republican like Ron did.

Now, 8yrs later, Son endorses Romney (only after Ron got screwed), establishes himself as a Senior Senator (with many speeches, questionings that align him with his father).

Smart move I would say.



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 01:25 AM
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America doesnt have the integrity to change. We need to focus on why things are the way they are. Not soap opera politics.

The simple answer is, we cut God out, and this is what we get. I say we either turn back to God or let the nation go. Obviously voting hasnt changed anything. So why bother? Why make the same decisions over and over again expecting diferent results?

There are bigger things than America.



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