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reply to post by benrl
Neither of these guys are actual scientists... that's the amusing part...
Though I do believe Bill at least has a firm grasp on the concepts... he is "the science guy" after all...
What do we call Ken ham?
He has a BA in science... and a lawsuit against his character...
reply to post by benrl
I think his point is pretty clear...
Even someone who isn't technically a scientist shouldn't have a problem debunking creationism
And considering its held at their "museum"... you know the place will be full of fundies booing him at every turn
On yes this will be interesting
reply to post by benrl
Because for all we know we and all we see is spinning on a disc drive on some future civilizations computer for all they really know.
Nye is being as arrogant and ignorant as the creationist.
reply to post by Quadrivium
I have a question are you a young earth creationist where you also believe dinosaurs and humans coexisted?
I have been under the impression which I may be wrong that some creationist believe that god used the mechanics of the universe including evolution or is there a different name for that?
The difference to me is I find one willfully ignorant and the other understandable maybe even plausible..edit on 4-2-2014 by Grimpachi because: (no reason given)
I have read the Bible and I have failed to find where it is written that the earth is 6 to 10 thousand years old.
My thoughts on Creation are different from others I have heard.
I have thought of making a thread over the years but I know it will just lead to a lot of members flaming it (showing their arrogance and ignorance).
I can tell you, however, that the science we have today and what I get out of reading the Creation story really are not that far apart.
The entire matter:
The problem is that they have a very basic understanding of science, believe they're masters of a very broad topic, and don't use the actual tools of science to deduce right and wrong. Instead, they gather as much "science" (we can debate whether "christian science" is actual science til they're blue in the face) as will support their argument then ignore/redirect past anything that hurts their argument. Christians are masters of debate fallacies. In fact, they use those far better than any "science" they can find to support their skewed views.
If they'd actually learned critical thinking skills to be skeptical of EVERYTHING (yes, even science that has yet to be proven as fact should be viewed skeptically) then they would go much farther, be more informed, and probably not look so biased. It would also help if most christians actually read their bibles to see how self contradicting and full of bull# it is, but that's asking a lot from people who really only want to read confirmation biased information from their indoctrinated youth.
Fun fact: You're what religion you are because of geography. If you were born in one of the sand countries in the middle east, more than likely you'd be muslim. If you were born in china, you'd be a taoist or buddhist. So on and so forth. There's also 3000 something different religions and every one claims to be the one, so most everyone is an athiest anyway. They just choose to believe one more fairy tale figure than an actual atheist.
There is nothing to me more convicting than watching the magnificence of the Universe in all of it's imperfect power. My whole body tingles from just the 'thought' of the knowledge there is to know. I am 'FILLED' with AWE!
The fact that I say this here won't make me very popular here (or a few other places I have been). But the notion of evolution has become almost inescapable. Scientists see evolution at work in too many places. If you try to major in Biology working towards your B.S. degree -- good luck trying to tell any of your professors that "Evolution is JUST a theory!" If you assert that 'Evolution is still unproven!' as a biology major, most places you'll be invited to go major in Social Studies or Communications instead of Biology.
To say that a scientific theory has been proven is to say that the majority of experts in a field have been convinced of it's truth. The majority of experts in the field of biology have been convinced that evolution is a fact.
So you approached the subject with an open mind. Read a popular book on the subject by a well respected scientist. And decided he was wrong. I commend you for your unbiased approach. I had mistakenly thought that you had a religious influence to your thinking.
(Excerpts from others are noted as well).
a building in which objects of historical, scientific, artistic, or cultural interest are stored and exhibited.