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Atheism being accepted as “Today’s Religion” over all religions?

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posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 12:08 PM
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''Ignorant to God'' begs the assumption that there is something to be ignorant to or of.




posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 12:21 PM
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AfterInfinity
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''Ignorant to God'' begs the assumption that there is something to be ignorant to or of.


true, but are you one to assume that something doesn't exist until you were proven otherwise? Or should it have always existed? When you rely on the burden of proof such as God, you can't assume it doesn't exist until proven otherwise, it had to have always been there.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 12:33 PM
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I have already tried to explain that atheism has a religious value of zero. Is it too hard for religious people to comprehend that their own system of belief can be overwhelmed by a bunch of nothingness until the religion is a minority. Yep your +1's are being taken over by 0's.
Erase religion. start over.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 12:33 PM
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My best friends are atheist. I've always been able to get along with them. I wouldn't expect it to be any different here.


Parksie
I have already tried to explain that atheism has a religious value of zero. Is it too hard for religious people to comprehend that their own system of belief can be overwhelmed by a bunch of nothingness until the religion is a minority. Yep your +1's are being taken over by 0's.
Erase religion. start over.


lol, i know i shouldn't be humoring you, but what a contradiction.

edit on 01/24/14 by Jarring because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 12:34 PM
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I have proven it, to myself at least. Unlike you, I was willing to test it. You might be offended by how far I've gone. Let's just say that from what I have observed, I could kick the Christian god in the face and he'd let me get away with it.

It's more logical to conclude that he's that complacent an individual because he doesn't exist.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 12:39 PM
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AfterInfinity
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I have proven it, to myself at least. Unlike you, I was willing to test it. You might be offended by how far I've gone. Let's just say that from what I have observed, I could kick the Christian god in the face and he'd let me get away with it.

It's more logical to conclude that he's that complacent an individual because he doesn't exist.


"proof" suggests that it should be accepted universally.
But we're not here to argue the validity of your belief structure, we're here to argue the validity of it being a religion, which i have already made my statement on.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 12:43 PM
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The validity of my investigations, and those of thousands of others, are examples of why atheism isn't a religion. No god. No book. No church. No prayer or mantras. No heaven or hell or afterlife. It's not much of a religion. You are born, you participate in the rat race, you die. That's what we know right now, and that's what we have to work with. Does that sound like religion to you?



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 12:46 PM
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AfterInfinity
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The validity of my investigations, and those of thousands of others, are examples of why atheism isn't a religion. No god. No book. No church. No prayer or mantras. No heaven or hell or afterlife. It's not much of a religion. You are born, you participate in the rat race, you die. That's what we know right now, and that's what we have to work with. Does that sound like religion to you?


what you "know right now" is something everyone knows right now, but "what you have to work with" is seriously unconvincing.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 01:06 PM
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How is it unconvincing?



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 01:10 PM
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What you have right now is all you will ever have. What you know is the same, unless you knew more than everyone else before you came to planet earth, you only know the same as us. The same kind of people who saw god and heard the commandments writ the text you read about the religion you know. Before you knew anything you weren't even alive.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 01:12 PM
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Stormdancer777
After a schism, a question: Can atheist churches last?



The 'Better Business Bureau' has....



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 01:16 PM
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AfterInfinity
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The validity of my investigations, and those of thousands of others, are examples of why atheism isn't a religion. No god. No book. No church. No prayer or mantras. No heaven or hell or afterlife. It's not much of a religion. You are born, you participate in the rat race, you die. That's what we know right now, and that's what we have to work with. Does that sound like religion to you?


Why do you need any of those things in a religion? They develop from tradition over time and because encoded into a doctrine.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 01:33 PM
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AfterInfinity
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How is it unconvincing?


you seriously have to ask me that?

well, on a side note.

I don't think that's the reason you're an atheist. Atheists reject claims in existence of God. Atheists believe there are no deities. It's fueled by more than any number of claims. All atheists have a personal moral standing for their beliefs as varied as they may be, and they can be emotional in their beliefs just like anyone else.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 01:35 PM
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Stormdancer777

AfterInfinity

Atheism is just one more way of getting the job done. Takes the vanity out of the picture too.


What job is that AI?


Evolving into a person with better character, compassion and use to society and the world as a whole, here and now, not in some imaginary future.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 03:00 PM
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Jarring

AfterInfinity
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How is it unconvincing?


you seriously have to ask me that?

well, on a side note.

I don't think that's the reason you're an atheist. Atheists reject claims in existence of God. Atheists believe there are no deities. It's fueled by more than any number of claims. All atheists have a personal moral standing for their beliefs as varied as they may be, and they can be emotional in their beliefs just like anyone else.


If I could prove that a god exists, I would be more than happy to do so. I would then proceed to demonstrate that god's character and establish my personal stance as either in support of this god or in opposition to this god. After that, it would be your own choice whether or not you follow my lead. I'm not here to impress people, but I would hope to leave them a little more educated as to what they are doing and who they are. Generally, the one thing we are most dishonest with ourselves about...is ourselves. I try to avoid that trap. Thanks for the private message, by the way.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 03:07 PM
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FyreByrd

Stormdancer777

AfterInfinity

Atheism is just one more way of getting the job done. Takes the vanity out of the picture too.


What job is that AI?


Evolving into a person with better character, compassion and use to society and the world as a whole, here and now, not in some imaginary future.



But that's exactly the point, be a good person and inherit the future.
Love one another
be good to one-another
Feed the hungry
Visit the sick and those in prison.
Cloth the naked.
Knowledge is the beginning of wisdom.
Love you neighbor as yourself
Take care of the widows and orphans
don't steal, lie, murder, yada yada...............................


Inherit the kingdom





posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 03:20 PM
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OK and I don't want to hear any more of this foolishness that unicorns never existed.
www.archaeology.org...


RAJASTHAN, INDIA—A seal and a weight were unearthed at a Harappan-period site in northwestern India. “The seal consists of two Harappan characters, with a typical unicorn as the motif and a pipal leaf depicted in front of an animal. There is a knob behind the seal,” Archaeological Survey of India archaeologist VN Prabhaka told the Hindustan Times. Prabhaka added that the presence of the seal and the weight, which date to the peak of the Harappan civilization (2600 B.C. to 1900 B.C.), indicate that commercial transactions were taking place at the site.





posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 03:46 PM
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And thus, the existence of the beloved, mysterious, and ever-elusive ufrack has been proven! And yes, I will continue to refer to my ufracks in this context. Maybe it'll catch on at some point.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 04:08 PM
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thought it was long overdue.
my belief structure is centered around morality and cardinal sin. The more I release myself from the bondage of sin, the closer I am to God and understand Him. It can be hard to explain this understanding, however, I've found that Christianity is closest to its specifics. I generally don't say a lot about it, mostly due to an order of who I'd be trying to convince into its belief, so there generally wouldn't be a point of saying if there is no grounds in which any one is to believe.

sometimes i hint at something, but i generally find that to be in vain as well.
It's a lot easier to speak of basic understandings, they can be brought into question all day, and I'll answer them with pleasure as I see fit.



posted on Feb, 5 2014 @ 04:15 PM
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my belief structure is centered around morality and cardinal sin. The more I release myself from the bondage of sin, the closer I am to God and understand Him.


We may have gone over this already at some point or another, but I want to refresh myself. What makes you sure that this "thing" you're closer to is anything more than a state of mind you find productive/constructive and reassuring? Perhaps it is a natural element of your emotional and psychological infrastructure, but so unlike other emotional and psychological experiences that it strikes you as alien and therefore disparate. I don't know, I'm just guessing, but it does seem like distinct possibility. I like to run processes of elimination to be sure I haven't overlooked the obvious. Perhaps you would find such a practice useful as well.


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