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raymundoko
reply to post by zandra
You really should research your sourcing. My link contains a well qualified scientists and expert on ancient languages Dr. Michael S. Heiser. He goes into great detail about why and how Sitchin is wrong. If you disagree with his debunking of Sitchin, then you obviously WANT to believe Sitchin and are not basing your belief in the realm of reality.
www.sitchiniswrong.com...
Ahh about time he got mentioned thanks..I am aware of his iterpretation,which is not correct
1) Nibiru is called a star.
2) Nibiru is called a planet – nearly always Jupiter-Marduk, but once Mercury, and never anything beyond Pluto or the known planets.
3) The Sumerians, by their own records, knew of only five planets (and accepted the sun and moon as planets).
4) Nibiru is never mentioned in any respect with the Anunnaki; it is never said to have been or be inhabited.
5) Nibiru is both a “fixed star” in some relationship to constellations (whether a member or just in proximity is unknown) that “holds” them in their courses, but is also described as “changing position” and “crossing” the sky at times.
6) Nibiru was seen every year, which demolishes Sitchin’s view of a 3600 year cycle for it.
Buddyman
Hi Guys,
I have tried throughout the duration of this thread to portray the different areas of study relating to Nibiru/Planet X etc..How it has indeed been documented in history independently throughout the world and represented in the form of the winged disk (which incidently is also still being used to this day) also supporting that which i have championed and many other researchers.. i.e. the orgin of this symbol i.e. Nibiru and those who used it and founded these many societies/cultures globally, past/present i.e. the Anunnaki -albeit an Earthbound faction- therefore declaring they are still in power today,albeit covertly,incidently this sign is still used by secret societies, who at their very,very uppermost levels are Anunnaki (even those at the bottom of the ladder in the society may not be aware of the 'overall plan/leadership)--I recommend checking,the Wes Penre Papers at Wes Penre.com for clarification on the whole picture and matters at hand--Additionally there is also the Nazi link of the 'order of the Black Sun' and the even the Nazis own interpretation of the winged disk which was portrayed by them.. (I will put the links up in their own post very soon)...
Also i've highlighted how the geographic/geologic/topographic records have also shown a global event 3600 years ago circa,of which this is well supported,I have attempted to illustrate the many clues from across the board in trends whether it be infrared cameras,government movements,project names,anomalous fossils,video evidence etc etc...you know what i mean if you have followed from the beginning..We have also examined the space aspect and all evidence/clues to its existence, which again are there...There are also prophecies all independently corroberating in their description and of coarse the evidence from the present say,on Earth, or in space which again bolsters this so called 'theory'..I have just breifly summerised the thread again here,i know there are areas i have missed out which are included,plus a few more items to add in future.
Again i suggest that if you sit on the fence about this subject, then please go back and read it and every link in its entireity, or if you feel you are beyond that, then just scan it and see what you find is relevent to what you want to know..I have always 'bigged up' Wes Penres papers,as for me they have connected so many dots and brought all aspects of the 'global conspiracy' together in a nice tidy, well presented,non bias,comprehensive way,of coarse thats my opinion, but if you have a passion for truth, as i do, then i would like to point you in a direction that i think will serve you best..
Just a summery..But Wes covers Nibiru,its inhabitants,its origins,the holographic/multi universe,metapsysics,The real IMO analysing of the reptilian saga,amid so much dis info on that these days,the real nature and purposes/origins of UFOs,souls,afterlife..The list goes on,he really has a go at the lot and does a great job from what i can see,after researching for a long time(i hope it serves your research well, as it did for me,it is a long read so you may wish to leave it until after you have researched the thread,thats up to you of coarse)
Wes Penre May 1 at 1:32pm Report
4. I have never said that everything in my e-book is true. I am REPORTING so people can read about it, and I am commenting on it here and there in the book. But I was as careful as I could not to say it's this way or the other
He then posted this confession on his website- "Although I realized that not everything they told me was true, I went with the flow to see where it would lead me."
alliedunion.wordpress.com... ... mment-1077
So, since Wes Penre has now openly admitted to reporting what he knew were lies. I'd like to get a consensus here as to how much his credibility has been damaged here in the conspiracy community as a consequence of this. I'm using this topic as the basis for a Journalism research project for school, so all feedback will be very much appreciated!
I still have a post relating to current events here on Earth i would like to post,i did try a few posts ago but it was not allowed to be put forth by the site,my guess is that a link i had about the 'climate gate' was the straw that broke the camals back..Well if you are in doubt about the true reason (i.e. not human activity) for global environmental freak weather and so on, then look into 'climate gate' scandal for yourself please,as i won't attempt to post it again if it is that sensitive..i.e. correct,the dissallowing of that post speaks volumes to me..Anyway, like i say i will tackle the current events in the next post,well actually, say the post after that,as i'm doing 2 smaller posts now,so it will speak of what i beleive and many others do, in what is going on with tectonic plates and hopefully common sense,basic geography and intuition should guide you from thereon.
This is just a necessary summerising post,as soon as i have finished this post, i will move onto my next post,hopefully portraying the unseen nature of planets and life,which should hopefully illustrate that all is not what it seems in some areas, as far as we are taught and our 3d perceptions/view of life...Thanks Guys, again i apologise for not getting back to you,i will when i have the time,i am juggling all sorts my end and time is of a premium,i just want to get the info to you, which deep down im sure you will agree with..So thanks again..Take care..
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Buddyman
And to the person declaring lens flare,let the good people decide for themselves what to think and take all info i have provided throughout the thread and will continiue to do so into account,that rebuttel is very predictable and IMO cannot disprove the wave of sightings globally..
Also i've highlighted how the geographic/geologic/topographic records have also shown a global event 3600 years ago
luckey1962
When you get to posting the geological/weather stuff, would you include some of the erosion factors they have uncovered about the sphinx? You can't carbon date rock, but you can carbon date the moss on them. What about Michael Tellinger's view about South Africa? He thinks he found the garden of eden there.