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Humans came long after aliens, scientist suggests.

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posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 01:23 PM
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_BoneZ_
...We are almost to the technological point where if we could go to a primitive planet, we could create a more intelligent being by mixing our DNA with the DNA of primitive humanoid on that planet as well. And when they grow up, they could also claim that since their DNA matches so closely to the primitives, that they evolved on that planet, but that wouldn't be the case....

Yeah, but wouldn't the creation of an advanced species from a primitive species happen in one generation after the DNA-splicing, rather than happening slowly over millions of years?

I realize there are holes in our past record the older species that came before/were the progenitors of humans, but those holes may exist simply because we have not yet found record of those human ancestors, even though they may have existed.




posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 01:34 PM
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Phage
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Until then, the bible is the proof.

Because it says so, right there in it.
Now that's logical.

What does the bible have to say about those civilizations that came before us? The ones in your OP?



Well Phage... you may have to go into something much farther ....

say the Sumerian Text cuneiform... I would tend to believe in order to find that out ...

Need to find someone... to Re Read those Old Mythical Tablets Again ..out of thousand's of tablets yet to be deciphered
that Zacharia Stichen as Said and Claimed about them.. one of the oldest txt's in the world

well one that is confirmed the Gilgamesh tablets saying about the biblical deluge ...


and let's not forget who Abraham's Father was (Sumerian Priest) and living at SUMAR --- UR

Terah
en.wikipedia.org...

Most of what is told about Terah is recorded in Genesis 11:26-28. Terah's father was Nahor, son of Serug, descendants of Shem.[v.10] They and many of their ancestors were polytheistic.[3] Regarding his children, Terah had three sons: Abram (better known by his later name Abraham), Haran, and Nahor II.[v.26] His daughter Sarai, by a second wife, was also his daughter-in-law, wife of Abram.[4] The entire family, including grandchildren, lived in Ur of the Chaldees.[v.31] One of his grandchildren was Lot whose father Haran died before the family left Ur.[v.28] Terah's son Abram had an encounter with God, who directed him to take the entire family, leave Haran and move to the land of Canaan.[5] Terah coordinated the journey, intending to go to this new land, but stopped in the city of Haran,[v.31] along the way, where he died at the age of 205



Anunnaki Legends ... gotta love it...



posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 01:59 PM
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"I believe Earth is the source of all life in the universe. If there is life somewhere else out there, it started as a result of microbes that came from here, not the other way around."

This is almost a same egoist and selfish than saying god created us after him..
The human been is a most pathetic creation on the Earth and in the universe. Brainwashed religious stupid kind. They believe in god and they kill everything arounds them to claim it is all good because god said it is ok...Really people ? Is it the source???
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posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 02:02 PM
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Sumerian Text cuneiform

Here you go:
etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk...




Zacharia Stichen as Said and Claimed about them

Yeah. Well, there's a problem right there.



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posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 04:35 PM
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Then what?
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The Prime Directive....we don't interfere with their development.

Our only hope for long term survival as a species is to get off this rock.



posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 04:46 PM
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Phage
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Sumerian Text cuneiform

Here you go:
etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk...







Zacharia Stichen as Said and Claimed about them

Yeah. Well, there's a problem right there.



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thanks for the Link Phage ... but as Ive... have said upon thousands of tablets.. yet to be deciphered
and Another Person that can actually read Sumerian Text...


that's why we need a actual translator that can read the long task of the rest of the tablets

Library of Ashurbanipal Contents
en.wikipedia.org...


The royal library consists of approximately 30,000 tablets and writing boards with the majority of them being severely fragmented. [8] It can be gleaned from the conservation of the fragments that the number of tablets that existed in the library at the time of destruction was close to two thousand and the number of writing boards within the library can be placed at a total of three hundred.[9] The majority of the tablet corpus (about 6,000) included colloquial compositions in the form of legislation, foreign correspondences and engagements, aristocratic declarations, and financial matters. [10] The remaining texts contained divinations, omens, incantations and hymns to various gods, while others were concerned with medicine, astronomy, and literature. For all these texts in the library only ten contain expressive rhythmic literary works such as epics and myths.[11] The Epic of Gilgamesh, a masterpiece of ancient Babylonian poetry, was found in the library as was the Enûma Eliš creation story, and myth of Adapa the first man, and stories such as the Poor Man of Nippu




Or We can go another Route!!


The Indian ( India ) Sanskrit Tablets and other Writings..


That does Claim... about Space wars.. with the gods Nuclear Like explosions and Flying machines the Viemias close of the Same thing about what Stichen has said ... well Similar.. Another Ancient Writing's Ions Ago...

Sanskrit literature
en.wikipedia.org...


For Example :

Vimana
en.wikipedia.org...

The predecessors of the flying vimanas of the Sanskrit epics are the flying chariots employed by various gods in the Vedas: the Sun (see Sun chariot) and Indra and several other Vedic deities are transported by flying wheeled chariots depicted to be pulled by animals, usually horses. The existing Rigveda versions do not mention Vimanas, but verses RV 1.164.47-48 have been taken as evidence for the idea of "mechanical birds": 47. kṛṣṇáṃ niyânaṃ hárayaḥ suparṇâ / apó vásānā dívam út patanti tá âvavṛtran sádanād ṛtásyâd / íd ghṛténa pṛthivî vy ùdyate 48. dvâdaśa pradháyaś cakrám ékaṃ / trîṇi nábhyāni ká u tác ciketa tásmin sākáṃ triśatâ ná śaṅkávo / 'rpitâḥ ṣaṣṭír ná calācalâsaḥ "Dark the descent: the birds are golden-coloured; up to the heaven they fly robed in the waters. Again descend they from the seat of Order, and all the earth is moistened with their fatness." "Twelve are the fellies, and the wheel is single; three are the naves. What man hath understood it? Therein are set together spokes three hundred and sixty, which in nowise can be loosened." ("trans." Griffith)

In Swami Dayananda Saraswati's "translation", these verses mean: "jumping into space speedily with a craft using fire and water ... containing twelve stamghas (pillars), one wheel, three machines, 300 pivots, and 60 instruments."[2] although the 'wheel' is likeliest a metaphorical description of the yearly cycle[original research?] , and '12' and the '360' are likeliest its months and days.[dubious – discuss]


Questionable ?

Nuclear Wars in Ancient India – Literary Evidence
www.hitxp.com...

(From the Hindu Wisdom site) Vimanas Section
Introduction
Some Puranic accounts of Air-Chariots
References from Ancient Literature
India had a Superior Civilization
Ancient Writings tell of UFO visit in 4,000 B.C.
Fly the Friendly skies in Air India Vimanas
Flying machines in old Indian Sanskrit texts
Chariots of The Gods
Vymaanika Shaastra Aeronautics of Maharshi Bharadwaaja
Ancient nuclear blasts
Did Man Reach The Moon Thousands Of Years Ago?
High-Tech Vedic Culture
Mysteries from Forgotten Worlds
Soaring Through Ancient Skies
Space Heroes of Old India
Have We Shattered the Atom Before?—Signs of a Former Nuclear Age
Ancient Indian Spacecraft And Aircraft Technology
www.hinduwisdom.info...


You Know what is Interesting


This Flying Machine VImana's


Sound like the Flying Machine that Made Manna for the Hebrews when they Wandered for 40years in the Dessert
hint hint VImana -- VI Mana -- MANA maybe maybe not ..















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posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 04:53 PM
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have said upon thousands of tablets.. yet to be deciphered
The tablets concerning Sumerian creation mythology have been translated. They are in the link I provided.


The Indian ( India ) Sanskrit Tablets and other Writings..


That does Claim... about Space wars.. with the gods Nuclear Like explosions
There are no such writings.

The Mahabharata actually doesn’t say any of that. These exact claims about the hair and nails falling off and an explosion brighter than a thousand suns have been repeated by Ancient Astronaut theorists so many times that they think it’s true, but the origin of this line was from a French book called “Morning of the Magicians”
ancientaliensdebunked.com...



posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 04:53 PM
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I asked this in another thread but didn't really get an answer.

How sure are we that an Andromeda strain scenario would play out if we contacted an ET race?

I mean sure, their atmosphere is likely to give us fits, but would they actually make us sick, or vice versa? I'm not so sure we would get sick. Here on Earth, for instance, it is rare for two species to make one another sick. Different immune systems entirely.

If we could interact with them without unleashing a deadly plague, we would most likely try to teach and/or learn from them.
If we feared a plague, prime directive is the way to go.

We already practice prime directive to an extent here on Earth with aboriginal tribes in New Guinea and elsewhere.



posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 05:09 PM
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Phage
ancientaliensdebunked.com...

That site isn't working correctly for some reason. I've tried two different browsers. When I click on one of the "recent posts", it just has a page with a couple ads, but no content.



posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 05:10 PM
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Ah. The link got truncated. Try this:
link

Nope. That doesn't work either.

copy and paste?
ancientaliensdebunked.com/references-and-tran.ancient-nuclear-warefare/


Nope. That is odd.
Homepage:
ancientaliensdebunked.com...
Then click "Ancient Nuclear Warfare"?
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posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 05:10 PM
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Phage
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Hopefully, one day we'll get a chance to meet some of them. See how they live, what they drive, what kinds of animals evolved on their planets, what kinds of ships and planes they fly, what kinds of foods they eat.

It works both ways. If there is a way to escape our island and we find it, we may find species just emerging into intelligence.

Then what?


All depends what they taste like...



posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 05:17 PM
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I hope they are not hostile, because if they are we are screwed. it would me like the Army I corps. attacking a roman legion. It would be a slaughter.



posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 05:36 PM
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I would like to have read their "UFO's in the bible" post to likely get a good laugh, but it's not working. Ah well.....



posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 05:38 PM
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Bone75
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I believe Earth is the source of all life in the universe. If there is life somewhere else out there, it started as a result of microbes that came from here, not the other way around.
whoa...and bone against bone too

for perspective:
universe's age: 13.8 B yrs
milky way's age: 13.2 B yrs
solar system: 4.6 B yrs

Then, there's the star methuselah that is estimated 16 B yrs or 14.5 B yrs; give or take several hundred million years.

For good or bad, I know you're not alone on your mantra, "insist on the impossible."



posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 05:58 PM
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interesting Site the Debunking site of Ancient Aliens from the History Channel


but there so many loop holes in it not even funny

I would love to point out all the Flaws in their Claims.. and as they Bypass some of the stuff

like Puma Punku...




Here are some disputes

Talk
umapunku/Archive01
en.wikipedia.org...
umapunku/Archive01



posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 06:38 PM
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_BoneZ_

Earthlings may be extreme latecomers to a universe full of life, with alien microbes possibly teeming on exoplanets beginning
just 15 million years after the Big Bang, new research suggests.
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But even exoplanets that orbit far beyond the habitable zone may have been able to support life in the distant past, warmed by the relic radiation left over from the Big Bang that created the universe 13.8 billion years ago, says Harvard astrophysicist Abraham Loeb.
www.space.com...
news.cnet.com...



This is a very interesting hypothesis. Who knows how many advanced civilizations have been born, evolved, and became extinct before we were even born?

Not to mention how many advanced civilizations are currently thriving amongst the cosmos. With the number of stars and galaxies in the known universe, the number of advanced, intelligent civilizations is unimaginable.

Hopefully, one day we'll get a chance to meet some of them. See how they live, what they drive, what kinds of animals evolved on their planets, what kinds of ships and planes they fly, what kinds of foods they eat.






This is a pretty well accepted premise in astrobiology. We're the kids. Most of the Galaxy and Universe is older than us and has been capable of producing us for billions of years before our solar system formed. Therefore, we're probably the babies of the Universe.

S+F
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posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 06:42 PM
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Phage
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Hopefully, one day we'll get a chance to meet some of them. See how they live, what they drive, what kinds of animals evolved on their planets, what kinds of ships and planes they fly, what kinds of foods they eat.

It works both ways. If there is a way to escape our island and we find it, we may find species just emerging into intelligence.

Then what?


This is actually being debated right now....

SPACE.com: Extraterrestrial Etiquette: How Should Humanity Interact with Alien Life?


Humanity should start thinking about how to interact with alien species long before coming into contact with extraterrestrial life, experts say.

Coming up with a strict set of guidelines that govern the way people on future interstellar space missions study and interact with aliens is imperative before anyone blasts off to a distant world, according to attendees at Starship Congress in August.

While a "prime directive" — the rule that prevented Star Fleet officers from interfering with the business of alien life-forms on TV's "Star Trek" — might be a little extreme, such a rule could help govern interactions between aliens and humans.

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posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 06:47 PM
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cuckooold
Isn't it likely that if we reach the point of interstellar and intergalactic travel, that humans will simply try and export 'manifest destiny' into the cosmos, just like the Europeans did to the 'New World'?


No more likely than cowboys on horses with laser guns.

Or for that matter "light sabers"


Great for Hollywood sci-fi, unlikely in reality.
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posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 06:50 PM
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Thecakeisalie
It seems that we have a winner in the stating the obvious competition.

The universe is almost 10 billion years older than the Earth itself, and is filled with billions of galaxies that are billions of years old. Thousands of civilizations could've risen and fallen in the time before man walked the earth, So obviously there would be aliens older than us.

And even if we could detect life forms in another galaxy, it would be too late because we'd be looking into the past, if we spotted a Dyson sphere in Andromeda for example, that technology would be at least two million years old at the time of the sighting. We wouldn't be seeing a bustling civilization, but it's artifacts.

We need to look at our own galaxy first, It's here that we'll have a slim chance of finding active civilizations. Anything beyond that would be pointless.



+100 on your post! You are absolutely right.

Good thing we're doing just that. Yet, some people knock SETI.



posted on Feb, 2 2014 @ 06:54 PM
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boymonkey74

Phage
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Hopefully, one day we'll get a chance to meet some of them. See how they live, what they drive, what kinds of animals evolved on their planets, what kinds of ships and planes they fly, what kinds of foods they eat.

It works both ways. If there is a way to escape our island and we find it, we may find species just emerging into intelligence.

Then what?


All depends what they taste like...


If you can travel the distances between the stars, you don't need to eat animals for protein......




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