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posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 12:59 PM
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Came across this interview of David Simon from Bill moyer

Amazing

billmoyers.com...

Couldn't find it posted

And couldn't say it better myself




posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 01:34 PM
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Another capitalism bashing thread, how original. Maybe we will resolve the issue this time.



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 01:44 PM
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Then you missed the point completely

Capitalism is ok as long as labor and capital are on equal footing

Capital waged a war vs labor

And labor lost

And with labor done so goes the country

Deny ignorance


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posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 01:55 PM
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Hoosierdaddy71
Another capitalism bashing thread, how original. Maybe we will resolve the issue this time.


Capitalism doesnt just need bashing, its needs to be dragged through the streets, hung and its entire evil body quartered. If it was a person i would drag it by its hair out into a field and put a bullet through its head.

Capitalism needs to be bashed, its an unsustainable economic system that billions of people are suffering because of.



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 01:57 PM
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You didn't make a point, you let a talking head babble on and on. I guess his point is people need to be treated better? Or profit is evil? Sorry to say that profit is the main motivation to innovate.
Every system has poor people. Just a fact of life.
Mcdonalds should have a third drive thru window to fix the order the second window screwed up. It happens to often.
I feel for the poor folks but I work my butt off to get ahead. Hard work is rewarded believe it or not and failure is a possibility. Without the rewards of hard work, the hard work will stop. When that happens nobody gets ahead.



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 02:02 PM
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Hoosierdaddy71
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You didn't make a point, you let a talking head babble on and on. I guess his point is people need to be treated better? Or profit is evil? Sorry to say that profit is the main motivation to innovate.
Every system has poor people. Just a fact of life.
Mcdonalds should have a third drive thru window to fix the order the second window screwed up. It happens to often.
I feel for the poor folks but I work my butt off to get ahead. Hard work is rewarded believe it or not and failure is a possibility. Without the rewards of hard work, the hard work will stop. When that happens nobody gets ahead.


I dont know what planet you live on, but here on earth people work just as hard as those earning ridiculous sums of money. To insinuate that "Working hard = Reward" is a slap to the face to billions of people around the world.



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 02:02 PM
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SearchLightsInc

Hoosierdaddy71
Another capitalism bashing thread, how original. Maybe we will resolve the issue this time.


Capitalism doesnt just need bashing, its needs to be dragged through the streets, hung and its entire evil body quartered. If it was a person i would drag it by its hair out into a field and put a bullet through its head.

Capitalism needs to be bashed, its an unsustainable economic system that billions of people are suffering because of.



World poverty is down to an all time low according to this.


www.aei-ideas.org...

All because of the free enterprise system.



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 02:08 PM
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Hoosierdaddy71
Another capitalism bashing thread, how original. Maybe we will resolve the issue this time.

At least you admit there is an issue with capitalism. Or where you just talking double speak?



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 02:10 PM
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intrptr

Hoosierdaddy71
Another capitalism bashing thread, how original. Maybe we will resolve the issue this time.

At least you admit there is an issue with capitalism. Or where you just talking double speak?



You don't seem to grasp the concept of sarcasm..



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 02:10 PM
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Another_Nut
Came across this interview of David Simon from Bill moyer

Amazing

billmoyers.com...

Couldn't find it posted

And couldn't say it better myself


And it does deserve to be quoted (as some members never look at references):



“The horror show is we are going to be slaves to profit. Some of us are going to be higher on the pyramid and we’ll count ourselves lucky and many many more will be marginalized and destroyed,” Simon tells Moyers. He blames a “purchased” Congress for failing America’s citizens, leading many of them to give up on politics altogether.


The above from:



David Simon, journalist and creator of the TV series The Wire and Treme


All from the OPs reference: billmoyers.com...

The cynical will say there is nothing to be done, I'm powerless to prevent it. It's only true unless we work together right and left. This is being done by a quietly growing movement to amend the constitution to get money out of politics and reverse the doctrine of corporate personhood that allows money to be equated with speech.

Several groups on working on this locally and you can find more information at:

movetoamend.org...



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 02:15 PM
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www.insidermonkey.com...

The previous link is for the top twenty highest quality of life countries in the world. Countries from all over the world, North America ,Asia and Europe. The only thing missing from the list are communist and socialist countries. Yeah capitalism is not perfect, but it's still the best system we have.



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 02:19 PM
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World poverty is down to an all time low according to this.


www.aei-ideas.org...

All because of the free enterprise system.

Poor only exist in capitalistic societies. In Native American cultures (prior to European Genocide) there were no hungry or homeless.

Within the tribe all were taken care of.

The idea of ownership of land was silly to them. So we wiped them out.

I know why rich societies have poor people. Its because rich people exploit those that have less. They "capitalize" on their misfortune. That grows into actually causing misfortune to capitalize on.

See stock market crashes, war, famine, poverty (debt).

The whole lie presented as capitalism is really a disguise to eventually steal all the wealth and reduce everyone else to abject poverty so they can't steal the wealth back. People at that point are too busy trying to "get ahead" (like you).



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 02:21 PM
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Hoosierdaddy71
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You didn't make a point, you let a talking head babble on and on. I guess his point is people need to be treated better? Or profit is evil? Sorry to say that profit is the main motivation to innovate.
Every system has poor people. Just a fact of life.
Mcdonalds should have a third drive thru window to fix the order the second window screwed up. It happens to often.
I feel for the poor folks but I work my butt off to get ahead. Hard work is rewarded believe it or not and failure is a possibility. Without the rewards of hard work, the hard work will stop. When that happens nobody gets ahead.


"Hard work rewarded"? Please stop spouting the propaganda you learned in school and examine the situation with your own brain. That comment was utter nonsense. The Amerikan dream is utter bullsh$t, it is a nightmare. And its not just Amerika, whoever adopted this current consumerism, rape the planet, corporatism is under the same oppresive yoke of financial and societal serfdom. PEACE.



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 02:24 PM
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Hoosierdaddy71

World poverty is down to an all time low according to this.


www.aei-ideas.org...

All because of the free enterprise system.


Consider the source of this 'fact':



The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research (AEI) is an extremely influential, pro-business, conservative think tank founded in 1943 by Lewis H. Brown. It promotes the advancement of free enterprise capitalism[1], and succeeds in placing its people in influential governmental positions. It is the center base for many neo-conservatives.


Here's another, more valid source on the question of poverty:

www.oxfam.org...

And another:

theeconomiccollapseblog.com...

One 'liberal', one 'conservative'.

Your source is pro-big business which wins by keeping left and right bashing each other rather then working in areas of common agreement such a poverty and income disparity.



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 02:25 PM
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Hoosierdaddy71

intrptr

Hoosierdaddy71
Another capitalism bashing thread, how original. Maybe we will resolve the issue this time.

At least you admit there is an issue with capitalism. Or where you just talking double speak?



You don't seem to grasp the concept of sarcasm..

As defined or the way you used it to mock the OP?

Sarcasm

Insults are not ideas, they are just insults.



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 02:26 PM
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Poor only exist in capitalistic societies. Really? There are no poor Chinese? No poor North Koreans? Bwaahahaha!



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 02:28 PM
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edit on 1-2-2014 by HUMBLEONE because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 02:32 PM
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Well boys I'm going to outback for a steak. I'm going to exploit some minimum wage folks. Have fun with this thread.
Have fun on your capitalist made computers and internet service providers. I know I'm going to enjoy my amerikan steak. And why is everybody spelling merika with a k? Peace!



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 02:33 PM
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sweden and norway are communists,or socialist.........



posted on Feb, 1 2014 @ 02:33 PM
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Poor only exist in capitalistic societies. Really? There are no poor Chinese? No poor North Koreans? Bwaahahaha!

You forgot Russia. At least those societies don't pretend capitalism, even though they exploit their citizens equally.

The problem is you think there is a difference between "Communism" as defined by the West and what they call it.

Here or there the few rule the many.

If there is more poverty there it is because they are still "modernizing".



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