Lunar coincidence

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posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 02:19 AM
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OptimusSubprime
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As we all know, the moon effects life here on Earth in a significant way. If the moon were any bigger or smaller life would be very different here. If the moon were any closer or further away life would be different here. Ocean currents, weather, gravity, etc... would all be very different. There are far too many "random occurrences", not only here on Earth, but outside of Earth for anything to be random. The size of the sun, the distance from the Earth to the sun, the tilt and rotation of the Earth, etc... are all precisely perfect to allow for and sustain life here on Earth. To me, this is all evidence of a creator, and I believe that creator is the LORD Jesus Christ (John 1:1)


Actually size makes no difference proximity does in fact the moon used to be alot closer than it is now to the point it took up over a quarter of the sky. Oh and i keep seeing the moon is hollow well its not Its core just isnt anywhere near as dense as ours. See we know its not hollow through math we know its gravity and we know its size and that makes it impossible.




posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 05:24 AM
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Armies normally attack at new moon, when it's as dark as possible, while most carnivores think the other way, light being a pro. Also around full moon, sleep patterns among animals are distorted, and they get more agitated. Being moon sick used to be a diagnosis, we still see that in words like 'lunacy' and 'monster'. Some claim crime statistics peak around full Moon.

I guess you're right, but I still find it fascinating.



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 05:48 AM
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Wow, it's been a while since someone posted this list of supposed anomalies. Usually, it's part of an attempt to prove that the Moon is really a spaceship. Anyway, here goes....


[1] The lunar month matches the human ovulation cycle.


Probably due to the fact that human beings evolved on Earth. There may be survival advantage involved in a reproductive cycle that allows offspring to be born during periods of bounty.


[2] The Moon and the Sun appears to be the same size in the sky, 30 arc minutes or half an arc degree across.


This is only temporary. As has been pointed out, the Moon is spiraling away.


[3] The Moon’s spin equals it’s orbit around Earth, so the Moon’s appearance is always the same seen from Earth (synchronous rotation).


This is the norm for natural satellites. It is due to a phenomenon known as 'tidal locking.'


[4] The Moon's axis cross the ecliptic on a straight angle, off by only 1.5°.


This is probably due to the Earth and Moon sharing a common origin, with angular momentum being conserved.


[5] The full Moon always rise at Sunset, the new Moon always rise at Sunrise.


That is because the full Moon is always, by definition, located 180 degrees away from the Sun. Incidentally, there can be regional variations due to irregular landscape features, etc.


[6] A Saros is a period of exactly 223 Synodic months, after which the Sun, Earth, and Moon return to approximately the same relative geometry.


I need only point out that your use of the words 'exactly' and 'approximately' are mutually contradictory.


[7] The Moon’s magnetic field is about 1/100th that of Earth measured in teslas.


The Moon has no global magnetic field; all effects are local. Or is the word 'tesla' the magic word here?


Are these random coincidences, or natural and fully explainable by science?


They are all explainable by science, although, as usual, there is a certain amount of randomness involved.


Are they signs of divine interference of some sort?


Absolutely not. (You are welcome to praise your personal deity (-es) for His/Her/Its/Their handiwork, but none of the above is evidence for said deity (-es) existence.)


Does the relationship between the Earth and the Moon reflect some universal dynamics evident throughout our solar system or the Universe-- or is this unique?


The dynamics of the Earth-Moon system are the result of universal physical laws that apply-- to the best of our current knowledge-- throughout the Universe. It is unique only in so far as our particular species has evolved here in such a way as to appreciate it.


And if it is God who is behind it, how did he do it?


Although theology is not my specialty, I believe the currently accepted answer among the Orthodox of all Faiths is: 'through the application of the natural laws He/She/It/They created.'



posted on Feb, 4 2014 @ 07:33 AM
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DJW001
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Wow, it's been a while since someone posted this list of supposed anomalies. Usually, it's part of an attempt to prove that the Moon is really a spaceship. Anyway, here goes....


Strictly speaking, objects like the Moon and the Earth are natural spaceships




[1] The lunar month matches the human ovulation cycle.


Probably due to the fact that human beings evolved on Earth. There may be survival advantage involved in a reproductive cycle that allows offspring to be born during periods of bounty.


Ovulation can happen anywhere during the female fertility cycle, but the cycle itself is equal in length to the Lunar cycle. I can't see how this should have any survival advantages.



[2] The Moon and the Sun appears to be the same size in the sky, 30 arc minutes or half an arc degree across.


This is only temporary. As has been pointed out, the Moon is spiraling away.


With about an inch and a half each year. Modern man has lived and wondered about science and the divine for the last 300,000 years, in that time the Moon has moved 11.4 km away from us. Hardly enough to add a hair's width to the relative size of the Moon.



[3] The Moon’s spin equals it’s orbit around Earth, so the Moon’s appearance is always the same seen from Earth (synchronous rotation).


This is the norm for natural satellites. It is due to a phenomenon known as 'tidal locking.'


Indeed.



[4] The Moon's axis cross the ecliptic on a straight angle, off by only 1.5°.


This is probably due to the Earth and Moon sharing a common origin, with angular momentum being conserved.


Well, it's not that simple. The Earth has a 23° tilt, perhaps because we once crashed with the Moon, and while the Moon settled it's wobble rather quickly due to it's much lesser mass, the Earth is still struggling with getting it's tail stright.



[5] The full Moon always rise at Sunset, the new Moon always rise at Sunrise.


That is because the full Moon is always, by definition, located 180 degrees away from the Sun. Incidentally, there can be regional variations due to irregular landscape features, etc.


Actually, no. Somehow the full Moon is at a straight line with the Earth at these times. It could have been any other time of the day. However, when the Sun sets one place on Earth, it rises another place. Trick question




[6] A Saros is a period of exactly 223 Synodic months, after which the Sun, Earth, and Moon return to approximately the same relative geometry.


I need only point out that your use of the words 'exactly' and 'approximately' are mutually contradictory.


No, because relatively, they speak of two different things. The cycle is exactly 223 Synodic months, while the geometry of the objects involved relative to the backdrop of Stars is not entirely equal.



[7] The Moon’s magnetic field is about 1/100th that of Earth measured in teslas.


The Moon has no global magnetic field; all effects are local. Or is the word 'tesla' the magic word here?


My guess is that Nikola Tesla used the field of the Moon compared to the Earth as a constant in his magnetic metre Tesla, much the same way Celcius used the freezing- and boiling point of water. Hoped someone would figure that out without dreaming up something that looks like science to disprove it. Another trick question (though I only suspect this, so not exactly sure)




Are these random coincidences, or natural and fully explainable by science?


They are all explainable by science, although, as usual, there is a certain amount of randomness involved.


Some of them are also explained by common sense and lunacy




Are they signs of divine interference of some sort?


Absolutely not. (You are welcome to praise your personal deity (-es) for His/Her/Its/Their handiwork, but none of the above is evidence for said deity (-es) existence.)


In my world, our Universe or Multiverse is/are expressions of God's thinking. Order exists, since God is all about reason and rationality. However, this reason and rationality can be understood and aquired as knowledge, thus humans can experience the mindset of this God/Universe, hence there are people who at given times can be like God, if only until they have to go to the toilet and get confused again. Still, to me, God is evident throughout the world as universal laws of nature, his common sense probably reflecting his own Universe/Multiverse in his density. I also believe a quark can contain universes/multiverses.



Does the relationship between the Earth and the Moon reflect some universal dynamics evident throughout our solar system or the Universe-- or is this unique?


The dynamics of the Earth-Moon system are the result of universal physical laws that apply-- to the best of our current knowledge-- throughout the Universe. It is unique only in so far as our particular species has evolved here in such a way as to appreciate it.


My guess too, only spiced up with a touch of the divine on top to trigger philosophy and search for universal truths with the human species.



And if it is God who is behind it, how did he do it?


Although theology is not my specialty, I believe the currently accepted answer among the Orthodox of all Faiths is: 'through the application of the natural laws He/She/It/They created.'


God (or his given representatives) would probably have done it much the same way we would do it had our technology allowed it already, but we still have a way to go. Seeing how humans are starting to entertain the thought of terra-forming Mars, such a process would ultimately be quite similar to the events demontrated in the opening chapter of Genesis. In the 21st century Genesis 1 actually seems like a rational way of trans-forming a new world under a new sky....





 
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