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bitsforbytes
reply to post by UxoriousMagnus
So then how did we come up with God? How did we come up with the concept of the soul? Can't see those or observe them in nature.
edit on 29-1-2014 by bitsforbytes because: (no reason given)
Grimpachi
reply to post by UxoriousMagnus
Krazyshot explained one way human could come up with the idea of deities but there are so many other ways.
No he didn't....LOL!!!!
How many civilizations worshiped animals or mythical animals. My favorite is the phoenix for some dragons. People worshiped ancestrial spirits.
Yeah....exactly...God says He puts the desire to worship him in every heart....but if you don't know about Him....you worship rocks, trees, lightning, wind or whatever.....this is not making the leap to an all powerful God in another dimension that created everything (this being the thing we couldn't conceive of)
The one true god. Yeah sure like that is so hard too come up with. Unless you can show the paper where Dr. Natapoff said people can't come up with the idea of deities I will have to assume that you made that leap in logic yourself.
Rodinus
UxoriousMagnus
boncho
I'm going to stop here because there's too much information to cover in one post, and i don't want to "bore you" with scientific facts; that were written about, thousands of years ago.
Weird. I didn't see any of those.
Trying to prove christianity with science one day, trying to say science is all garbage the next. I just don't get the deal with christians. Science shouldn't threaten their position, but they are either trying to usurp it for their own means or claim it has no merit, for their own means…
so not true....I think Christians are just as interested in science as non-CHristians....but you are right....we do look for God in the science. So what? We believe in Him....why wouldn't we look for Him in science?
Religion is just a "WORD" invented by a couple of bored people around a camp fire one evening after a little too much mead or whatever substance they were smoking or snorting up their nostrils at the time (IMO)...
That simple 8 letter word has done SOOOO much damage to this planet and to the human mentality...
Science is the evolution of our species... full stop.
Kindest respects
Rodinus
Yeah....exactly...God says He puts the desire to worship him in every heart....but if you don't know about Him....you worship rocks, trees, lightning, wind or whatever.....this is not making the leap to an all powerful God in another dimension that created everything
All the stars in the sky, that form pictures, just magically arranged itself, to appear as such?
Grimpachi
reply to post by UxoriousMagnus
Yeah....exactly...God says He puts the desire to worship him in every heart....but if you don't know about Him....you worship rocks, trees, lightning, wind or whatever.....this is not making the leap to an all powerful God in another dimension that created everything
Who's god said that? Somone lied to you because not everyone has a desire to worship. If there is a god then you are obviously following a fake one.
As for the idea of spirits that is easy to explain.
At least one explanation. Somone dies it is obvious that there is a change. So whats missing?
The life force i.e. soul as it has come to be called. A bird cries or wind howls out at the moment of someone death eww scary must be his soul/lifes breath or whatever you want to call it.
If you want to believe that the only way anyone could come up with the idea of Deities or spirits must be from talking to them then you should be worshiping some real old deities because the one in the bible sure wasn't the first.
Well you heard it in class and that is fine but how is that any different from some cultist claiming theirs is the one true way?
Grimpachi
reply to post by UxoriousMagnus
No anger here. No worshiping either. Not deities, money, or ideology. I have never found anything appealing enough to worship.
Making a statement such as everyone worships something requires a certain level of evidence to backing it up. You would also need to explain how someone worships those things.
Can you provide both the evidence and examples of how everyone worships something?
Grimpachi
reply to post by UxoriousMagnus
That is a hefty accusation that you really need to provide evidence for and as stated before explaining how one such as I can worship science.
I see science as nothing more than a tool I wouldn't know how anyone could worship a tool do you know anyone who worships wrenches or computers. Well there may be some nut job worshiping a computer somewhere IDK.
If you just want to stand with your accusation that's fine I am not really expecting much from you anyway.
I guess some people really are blind.
Grimpachi
reply to post by WonderBoi
All the stars in the sky, that form pictures, just magically arranged itself, to appear as such?
I see stars you see pictures. You know if you stare hard enough at clouds people see faces and all sorts of things but anyone with half a brain knows they are still only clouds. enough said.
No magic needed. Magic belongs to the supernatural which can be found in fairytales.
seabhac-rua
reply to post by WonderBoi
Your logic is comical.
So you are saying that things either "appeared" by a wave of God's hand, or they "just appeared" by themselves?
'Science' is a word you Wonderboi should stop using in your posts. You haven't got the faintest idea about what you try to talk about.