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masterp
Searching the web for legitimate resources on 'electro radiant event' and 'cold electricity' yields nothing. All I get is free energy sites.
XL5
Bedlam, how could MHD be used as a booster? You would need to power it with some sort of battery that has less power to weight then jet fuel, so you would come out at a loss.
XL5
Bedlam, in that case couldn't the turbine be completely removed if you used compressed air to start it?
I personally do think there is some huge store of energy out there that can be tapped, how, not sure. I'd just be happy if a MHD or another simple device could be made to run on propane/gas and get even 30%eff. and have great power density as well.
XL5
No what I mean is, it is still powered by fuel but the output MHD pulls the heated air out the back and the intake MHD powers the output MHD. Air would be used to start it.
Edit: I tend to spew out thoughts/ideas in point form but without the "points", the "drawing energy from an unknown source" part was one of those points.edit on 5-2-2014 by XL5 because: clarity
chr0naut
Why do people think that they can draw some random grouping of electromechanical/electromagnetic components and achieve over unity energy supply?
rubberchicken
reply to post by James1982
Every point there you have hit squarely on the head!
All these free-energy proponents have to do is wheel one out; let's have a look at it and take some proper measurements.
Sorry, all this BS about about inventors being bumped off or at least frightened into silence has got to be nonsense. Imagine headstrong, maverick students discovering this stuff. It would be out on the web and on multiple forums and websites within minutes. They wouldn't give a toss about the effect such a discovery would have on society (one of the reasons 'They' keep this technology secret - apparently). These students would revel in being the ones who released this knowledge to the world.
Such research is not discouraged. Look at all the cold fusion experiments that followed the 'discovery' by Fleischmann and Pons in 1989. University labs all over the world tried to reproduce the effect, no one tried to prevent them. Maybe it gave the oil/gas/coal oligarchs a few sleepless nights, but the cat was out of the bag. Unfortunately on this occasion the cat was dead, but it may not be in future.
What is interesting is how and why so many people (mostly with little if any knowledge of any science) keep believing this stuff, churning out websites and plans, etc. without a single working model. I think psychologists could learn a great deal by studying the free-energy brigade!
rubberchicken
What is interesting is how and why so many people (mostly with little if any knowledge of any science) keep believing this stuff, churning out websites and plans, etc. without a single working model. I think psychologists could learn a great deal by studying the free-energy brigade!
Crank magnetism is a term popularized by physiologist and blogger Mark Hoofnagle to describe the propensity of cranks to hold multiple irrational, unsupported or ludicrous beliefs that are often unrelated to one another.[7] Crank magnetism may be considered to operate wherever a single person propounds a number of unrelated denialist conjectures, poorly supported conspiracy theories, or pseudoscientific claims. Thus, some of the common crank characteristics (see above)— such as the lack of technical ability, ignorance of scientific terminology, and claims that alternative ideas are being suppressed by the mainstream— may be operating on and manifested in multiple orthogonal assertions. For example, Hoofnagle's fellow blogger Orac has discussed crank magnetism in relation to the writings of British columnist Melanie Phillips, who denies anthropogenic global warming and who has promoted Intelligent Design and the discredited view that the MMR vaccine causes autism in children.[8] Blogger Luke Scientiæ has commented on the relationship between the number of unrelated claims that magnetic cranks make and the extent of their open hostility to science.[9] He has also coined the phrase "magnetic hoax" in relation to hoax claims that attract multiple crank interpretations.[10]
James1982
If someone keeps eating poop, and you keep telling them it's poop, they shouldn't eat it, but over and over they keep shoving in their mouth and gulping it down, telling you it's not poop, but it's wonderful king crab. No it's poop you say. Delicious crab they respond. Eventually you just start selling them your crap and calling it crab, because they don't WANT to know the difference. That's THEIR fault. I don't feel bad about doing it, just about admitting it