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I am interested that you have brought up the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
If I remember , they haden't actually eaten from the tree of life yet, I often wonder if the tree of life is a description of the Messiah.
This thread is rather shocking to me.
No where does any scripture
that serpents ... ( serpents, not snakes ) ... had legs.
I had no idea how many misconceptions there are about Genesis 1:1
for instance, the number of times that snakes are mentioned losing their legs in Genesis is zero.
Even more shocking, to me, are the number of populist misconceptions and media driven stereo types that are being debated.
I had no idea that this much damage had been done to the soul of the English speaking world.
For instance, not a single person in this discussion has included all three "of"'s when discussing the tree.
I can not even express how disappointed I am. Even here on ATS, one of the smartest places on the entire Internet, no one has a clue. I'm going to stop talking now, and slowly back out of the room. I wish you all the best, and hope everyone has a wonderful future. Good night.
In 1997 philosopher David Abram wrote The Spell of the Sensuous, a sophisticated philosophical work that questioned this Western prejudice against animism. Abram drew upon a broad survey of oral, indigenous societies, weaving these insights together with the phenomenological philosophical work of Maurice Merleau-Ponty and Martin Heidegger. Abram’s first book and it’s recent sequel Becoming Animal (2010) should become foundational reading for anyone concerned with life on this planet: human and (in Abram’s wonderful phrase) “more-than-human”.
Abram deconstructs the Western philosophical tradition prior to Descartes (now a standard philosophical whipping boy) back to Plato and Socrates, the wellspring itself. Abram’s insightful conjunction of Merleau-Ponty’s work on perception and embodiment with indigenous stories and myths often labeled “animist” is an eye-opening, ear-opening, sense-awakening tour-de-force. Many who have read it can testify that unlike most books it can actually change the way one experiences the sensual world.
Abram presents a compelling argument that even human understandings of time and space are rooted in our experience of the physical earth. Past, present, and future are literally connected with things “beyond the horizon” and “underneath the ground”. Time and space are not conceptual categories we impose upon the world. We derive them from our experience of living on this planet, moving across its surfaces, experiencing death and decay back into the earth. From this perspective time and space begin to lose their distinctiveness and blur into “time-space” which is not a category or a structure, but a perspective upon life itself.
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you're obviously familiar with the occult
..some of us were simply told
to be wise as serpents but gentle as doves
it sounds like you're trying to suggest
the good guy is the bad guy
and the bad guy is the good guy?
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Life after death is Life.
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But God just played a trick on himself - he was fed up of 'being' alone so introduced the 'IDEA of becoming'.
Are you not just projecting human qualities on to God?
How do you know God was lonely and bored...and does God play tricks on himself?
I did not say God was lonely and bored. God played a trick on himself so he can play hide and seek with himself.
God is all there is.
This is 'being' itself.
'Human' is a concept - an idea that God is having.
Man is made in the image (imagination) of God.edit on 27-1-2014 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
heh. after a while, we can smell each other a mile off..
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yeah, that and other material..
that's actually what makes me lean towards the bibles take on things
..i think people like you and i could talk all day about this stuff
but why should we bother each other?
check this out one day when you have time (investigate the other sides encampment, "test all things, hold fast to that which is good")
oh thanks! he's done a great deal of work! i'm not in the occult. my info is almost all right in the biblical text. so what do you mean by occult and "smell each other a mile off"?
oh he's a white supremacist?
and it doesn't change the story one iota.
That is interesting, in relation to evolutionary theory it is conceivable that humans derive from a Hybrid that could not reproduce.