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TBH I am sick of hearing from our UK cousins how they figure we should live.
They got their asses handed to them in 1776,...
....and their puny attempt to rule the entire world is defunct.
Violent crime is rife in the UK and assaults are numerous as anywhere.....
Their cops carry submachine guns at the airports and they have flying squads of armed police.
The whole freakin country is covered with TV cameras and they are one of the most spied upon nations.
Why cant they fix their own problems before ranting to us about their gun Theories which do not fit the situation here.
The uk is a nation that is packed with people.
We have near limitless spaces and the police are far from showing up in time to do aught but bag n tag the bodies....
Truth be known its our OWN business!
their puny attempt to rule the entire world is defunct.
Our guns are all ,the ONLY thing they fear,
If the US falls so will follow the world without us.
I'll keep my "assault weapon" because I'm good with one and they may need me again.
Thanks to intellectuals who only talk,a second civil war almost looks possible here,hell I have even heard some supposedly EDUCATED people expound upon who would win!
I would love to hear about your opinion of wether or not the Chinese or the Russians would be more humane world leaders instead of us or even the bankers.
reply to post by Antigod
You can't compare any of the nations in absolute terms the way you're attempting to. Per Capita homicide rates are symptoms as much as problems in their own right and a myriad of causes to that for one place vs. another. Are you any safer in the ghettos of London than you are in the South side of Chicago? I seriously doubt it and take it from people I know living there to give a local's perspective. How many urban ghetto areas for any race, exist to count? The US has 50 states and several times the population with MANY more urban areas to have many more ghetto or very low income/high crime areas. So in sheer High Crime area vs. High Crime area ...the US is starting with 2 strikes out for a comparison.
Now on the other hand, get outside the Murder capitals of this nation like Chicago, Detroit, St Louis and others ...and you can walk down the street day or night with no serious problems in far more places than you cannot do so. In my entire time trucking across the lower 48 states, I only feared for my safety in overnight street parking a couple times... NYC, Birmingham, Alabama and Hialeah, Florida top the list ...with very few other examples.
The image of the United States as some wild, free for all crime fest is B.S. and ignorant...fueled by a wild media that feeds off the motto "If it bleeds, it leads" and they live it, daily. Keep that in mind while looking at coverage of events and places you can't personally experience to know by direct observation. We DO have high crime, oh very much so...but it's by NO stretch of the imagination, what the Media or some here make it out to be as a factor of daily life.edit on 26-1-2014 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)
I firmly believe that when google glass or some derivative of such, society will become much safer. Look what the dash cams for the police did? Sure there are some events of the police behaving improperly, but they are way down. Why? Because they are being watched. If a thug approaches you and you are wearing google glass, it will all be recorded. Like my dropcam, the video will be stored on line. So even if the thug destroys them (glasses or people), the video is still available for criminal prosecution.
At the beginning of this technological revolution, there will be horrendous things captured and posted online that governments will be forced to address. Everyone will be held accountable for their actions. Just like the wild west when everyone was armed.
An armed, or surveilled society is a polite society. Welcome to "1984" or Orwellian times. Your safety will come at a cost of your freedom!
I rather be watched and watching than have to watch out for guns.
The UK is 1.2 and the US is 4.7.
During the last 20 months, Wilmington has had 158 shooting incidents. Of the 183 people struck by bullets, 42 were killed.
More than 90 percent of the shooting victims since January 2011 have criminal records, city police records show. Both gunmen and their prey have averaged about two dozen arrests and 50 charges. Nearly half qualify as “career or habitual criminals,” police said.
19. Of the 2011 homicide victims, 76% (65) had a prior arrest and/or citation and of known 2011 homicide suspects 90% (74) had prior arrests/citations. Similar trends are found for nonfatal shooting victims and suspects.
Booker said "if you are shot in the city of Newark, you have over an 80 percent chance that you've been arrested before an average of 10 times."
The mayor should have said shot and killed, but the rest of his statistic is on point -- and backed by the research of a Rutgers-Newark criminal justice professor.
(Known) suspects with criminal records: 79.1 percent
Victims with criminal records: 82.3 percent
In Philadelphia in 2011, of 324 murders, 81 percent (263) of the victims had at least one prior arrest; 62 percent (164) had been arrested for a violent crime prior to their murder.
Though data is no longer published in Baltimore, USA Today reported in 2007 that 91 percent of the then-205 murder victims in the city between Jan. 1 and Aug. 31, 2007, had criminal records.
Of the victims of murder in Chicago from 2003 to 2011, an average of 77 percent had a prior arrest history, with a high of 79 percent of the 436 murdered in Chicago in 2010 having arrest histories.
But not everywhere is like the US....and the vast majority of us don't want to be like it.
That's not being anti-American; despite all the faults in our societies we all generally like things the way we do things in our respective countries.
reply to post by Antigod
Since we should learn from the mistakes of history, the next time someone talks in favor of gun control, find out which group of citizens they wish to have exterminated.
Since you are clearly anti gun I really need to ask the question. Which group of people do you want exterminated?
Idiots who think allowing my moron neighbours access to guns is a good idea. Just kidding.
I come from one of the few families that owned handguns in the eighties, know many current gun owners. I have some perspective on this one.
I agree with the guy who says constant surviellance is the answer. I'd loved to have actual footage of when they shot Mark Duggan. Would have saved a lot of grief all round.
There are many factors that affect gun-related crimes, if not crime in general.
That is true however the article correlates restrictive gun laws with an increase in crime and murder rates.
You could include here Monaco, who at some stage had/have no deaths by guns, and little crime yet everyone is supposed to have a weapon.