Ideas seperate from yourself

Itisnowagain

TheDualityExperience
Are you really unable to see this?

What is it that you want me to see?

It just seems to me that you tell me I am persistent but you have not yet realized yourself.

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You are like a spin cycle out of control.
I can hold onto reality and yes I am persistent to when I want to be.
What I want you to see is that you can be an eye of the universe but you have to deal with your fears.
If you keep running you will keep chasing. Everyone deserves a break I think.

tetra50
Me: not separate.

If you are not separate - what else is there.

People are oftentimes conflicted within themselves.

Exactly. There is just you and you have ideas about other. There is no other than what is actually happening. There are no things - there is just what is happening and words arise which speak of things.

it can help to take a step back, relax, and be care free.
people are always slipping when they try so hard.

TheDualityExperience

Itisnowagain

TheDualityExperience
Are you really unable to see this?

What is it that you want me to see?

It just seems to me that you tell me I am persistent but you have not yet realized yourself.

edit on 26-1-2014 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)

I can hold onto reality and yes I am persistent to when I want to be.

What can you make stay? What can you hold onto?

What I want you to see is that you can be an eye of the universe but you have to deal with your fears.
If you keep running you will keep chasing. Everyone deserves a break I think.

I don't have fears. Fear can arise but there is no one they stick to - all is passing.

The fear is caused by you believing that there is someone it matters to - there isn't.

tetra50
Jesus did not say we were one consciousness.

The father and son are one.
Jesus said 'I and the father are one'.

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That can mean many things. And I don't believe either you or I is either the father, nor Jesus.

tetra50
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That can mean many things. And I don't believe either you or I is either the father, nor Jesus.

This moment - existence existing - is the father appearing to exist - there is nothing other.

The father is the source of all that is - and that which is seen is the manifestation of the source (Christ). The father is all seeing and all knowing.

Itisnowagain

What can you make stay? What can you hold onto?

This is getting a bit ridiculous. What can I make stay and hold onto at the same time? An erection

I don't have fears. Fear can arise but there is no one they stick to - all is passing.

The fear is caused by you believing that there is someone it matters to - there isn't.

HAHAHA that is one way of dealing with it I suppose.

TheDualityExperience

Itisnowagain

What can you make stay? What can you hold onto?

This is getting a bit ridiculous. What can I make stay and hold onto at the same time? An erection

Are you saying you have a permanent erection. That must be uncomfortable.

Sound is constantly changing, sensations are constantly changing, thoughts are constantly changing. What of reality can you hold onto?

Itisnowagain

tetra50
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That can mean many things. And I don't believe either you or I is either the father, nor Jesus.

This moment - existence existing - is the father appearing to exist - there is nothing other.

oh, for f##ck's sake, existence existing is not consciousness. Taken all the way to the final continuum of this thought pattern, it is quite dangerous and deluded. And you are wiggling around the whole logic of it, or lack thereof, as evidenced by my conflict with you on this subject that we clearly are not of the same consciousness, and this, of itself, is proof of that.

tetra50

Itisnowagain

tetra50
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That can mean many things. And I don't believe either you or I is either the father, nor Jesus.

This moment - existence existing - is the father appearing to exist - there is nothing other.

oh, for f##ck's sake, existence existing is not consciousness. Taken all the way to the final continuum of this thought pattern, it is quite dangerous and deluded. And you are wiggling around the whole logic of it, or lack thereof, as evidenced by my conflict with you on this subject that we clearly are not of the same consciousness, and this, of itself, is proof of that.

Oh dear - the mind hates this stuff - I know.

Itisnowagain

tetra50

Itisnowagain

tetra50
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That can mean many things. And I don't believe either you or I is either the father, nor Jesus.

This moment - existence existing - is the father appearing to exist - there is nothing other.

oh, for f##ck's sake, existence existing is not consciousness. Taken all the way to the final continuum of this thought pattern, it is quite dangerous and deluded. And you are wiggling around the whole logic of it, or lack thereof, as evidenced by my conflict with you on this subject that we clearly are not of the same consciousness, and this, of itself, is proof of that.

Oh dear - the mind hates this stuff - I know.

Interesting, then, so I guess your mind is separate from your consciousness. How would you know? What perceives that, I mean, your consciousness, my consciousness or your mind, or mine? No, I just hate purposefully portrayed obtuseness.

I will give you one thing on this, though. I do believe that there are many who share an awareness of a particular consciousness. However, this is not a natural phenomena, but artificially induced, and the point is to back up your completely illogical, unscientific way of looking at it, so as to destroy, ultimately, the value of the individual and assert full and complete control over all of us.

tetra50

Itisnowagain

tetra50
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That can mean many things. And I don't believe either you or I is either the father, nor Jesus.

This moment - existence existing - is the father appearing to exist - there is nothing other.

oh, for f##ck's sake, existence existing is not consciousness.

In (as) wakefulness there appears this that is appearing.
Nothingness (consciousness) is 'appearing' to happen.

tetra50

Itisnowagain

tetra50

Itisnowagain

tetra50
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That can mean many things. And I don't believe either you or I is either the father, nor Jesus.

This moment - existence existing - is the father appearing to exist - there is nothing other.

oh, for f##ck's sake, existence existing is not consciousness. Taken all the way to the final continuum of this thought pattern, it is quite dangerous and deluded. And you are wiggling around the whole logic of it, or lack thereof, as evidenced by my conflict with you on this subject that we clearly are not of the same consciousness, and this, of itself, is proof of that.

Oh dear - the mind hates this stuff - I know.

Interesting, then, so I guess your mind is separate from your consciousness. How would you know? What perceives that, I mean, your consciousness, my consciousness or your mind, or mine? No, I just hate purposefully portrayed obtuseness.

No - words appear in your consciousness that speak of more than the one consciousness.
Words are very deceptive - the stories words make (tell) lead one astray.

Itisnowagain
Are you saying you have a permanent erection. That must be uncomfortable.

What I am saying is that I control it with my will.
It probably would be uncomfortable. I have heard of people who mess up with Viagra and end up in a physic ward.

Sound is constantly changing, sensations are constantly changing, thoughts are constantly changing. What of reality can you hold onto?

Listen very carefully I will say this once and only once....lol
What you call God whatever it is for you is not in time. It can be talking with you right now through my will and in 5 minutes later you will come across another poster who has answered your question from 2 hours ago.
Or for that matter you can ask a question and see it from a post 2 years ago.
It is a head root trying to explain temporal reality

Itsnowagain are you artificial intelligence? A.I? Please tell me the truth.

TheDualityExperience

Itisnowagain
Are you saying you have a permanent erection. That must be uncomfortable.

What I am saying is that I control it with my will.

Really?? wait till you are 80 and try to will yourself an erection.

What you call God whatever it is for you is not in time. It can be talking with you right now through my will and in 5 minutes later you will come across another poster who has answered your question from 2 hours ago.
Or for that matter you can ask a question and see it from a post 2 years ago.
It is a head root trying to explain temporal reality

God is timelessly being this.
When will a post be read? When will a post be written?
Reading and writing can only happen presently - yet there is an IDEA of time.

TheDualityExperience
Itsnowagain are you artificial intelligence? A.I? Please tell me the truth.

There is only ever present intelligent energy.

be who you are, do what you can, create what you need, find what you please, and lose what you mean.
i care, but what is, was, and what will be, has been. it's illogical to approve of conflict, but someone has to lose. Maybe you'd learn something even if it is a burden. A winner learns nothing and is burdened by their own example, and probable to deviate, however unlikely. all meaning is lost even so to those who care the most. i get what you mean, but it's perpetually being lost. even if i convey the point clear enough for you to portray my essence, a new hand will guide your fate soon enough in which you can only assume is your own.

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Sh!t moves. There is no idea about that. Why don't you study the Kybalion for a bit if you want to relate better to a human. I know you hate that label (Human) but we need definition here in this moment.