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Was thinking about this last week and the terminology "black hole" is indeed quite misleading.
Given the common convention amongst scientists a black hole would in fact be better described as a "Dark Hole" in the same vain as Dark Energy and Dark Matter ( Dark for descriptions of things that scientists can't measure ).
As a staunch believer in Super fluid Vacuum Theory, for me, a black hole is simply an area of space where space itself is at it's densest i.e an area of maximum spatial density.
Gravity is the time based observation of an object within the gradient of quantised space (i.e space itself is made up of the infinitesimally small "bits" that we observe but cant measure at this time thus giving erroneous measurements requiring dark energy and dark matter to fill the Astrophysics gap).
Hawking is seemingly recognising that a black hole cannot infact be infinite which would tie in nicely with Quantum Space Theory as explained here: einsteinsintuition.com...
Quantization also imposes minimum and maximum limits for spacetime curvature. The ratio of a circle’s circumference to its diameter can be used to geometrically represent those limits. In flat spacetime (zero curvature) that ratio is equal to π. In regions with nonzero curvature (e.g.centered around a black hole), the numeric value of that ratio decreases because the circle’s diameter proportionately increases. If space is quantized, it follows that the diameter of a circle with a finite circumference cannot be infinite (the amount of space inside a finite black hole cannot be infinite). In general, the cutoff provided by quantization means that the minimum value for the ratio of a circle’s circumference to its diameter must be greater than zero.
About the "black hole" I am thinking yes but also with the twist of a paradox.
Such as with the Red-Blue, but something like possibly a "Black - White Hole" ?
Where everything falls in, and everything falls out ?
Will post update to last 2 posts:
"The Gray Hole"
It's black and white. Neither and both.
How can anyone believe that everything occupied the space of a period on a piece of paper which is filled with nothingness literally ?
Has science become a faith or religion ?
And how would the Big Bang theory differ from faith in God ?
You have stated that the singularity is very small
When you go out tonight and look at about a 1/4 of all of the stars that you can see explain how that much matter could be in one single place in any form the size of our moon
This theory is expressed with great authority by the best scientific minds as their best theory ( guess )
It has been endorsed by most scientist as the premier rebuttal to the Biblical Creation by God
yet it has no basis of science to substantiate it
Yes people have made a religion out of science believing anything that is put forth as long as it debunks the bible
Maybe one of your scientist can explain singularity as having all the mater in heaven in it .
With all of the scientific theories being taught to children as if it were almost fact
'god' can exist without her\him\it being a 'bible' god or any other god as portrayed by present 'religions'.
How can anyone believe that everything occupied the space of a period on a piece of paper which is filled with nothingness literally? Where is the logic or scientific proof? Has science become a faith or religion? And how would the Big Bang theory differ from faith in God?
so when you think that science contradicts the bible or conversely that the bible is at war with science you should actually be looking for a misunderstanding of one or the other.
reply to post by Snarl
Agreed! So we have no better explanation than the Bible. A singularity still has to be atoms crunched beyond the point of destruction. So in the beginning and from there we just don't know nor could we understand.
Even if the entire volume of energy/mass in the known universe were contained by a singularity ... it would still have to have come from somewhere.