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Only 11% of Obamacare Signups Have Been Uninsured??

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posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 10:38 AM
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shaneslaughta
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
 


Ohh so its a funding thing.

Here is a solution....national healthcare.

Forget the safety net forget the individual funding.

True universal healthcare.


How about a hell no ?

Okay ?

We have seen the largest insurer of Americans right now is the US Federal Government with over 100 million Americans.

Making them the largest 'insurer' in the country. There is no single private corporation that has that many.

That is over 1 trillion in current federal spending. That doesn't pay for it self.

AND.

The cognitive dissonance part here is those who are on Medicare, and Medicaid are told to 'supplement' their Government ran 'healthcare' with private insurance.

For all intents and purposes we already have a 'single payer' and 'universal care'.

And it turns out it is not all that it is cracked up to be.

Because everyone is using it to the tune of 100 million(60 Medicare/50 Medicaid) and hardly anyone is paying for it.

Hence the GD never ending mantra of tax the bloody rich.

And then we borrow trillions of dollars.

And then we print trillions of dollars.

Because GD corporate products are 'human rights'.

This case healthcare.




posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 04:16 PM
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Well my friend here it is, as of today,

Moody's slashes outlook on insurers, cites Obamacare 'uncertainty'




Credit ratings firm Moody's Investors Service on Thursday lowered its outlook for health insurers to "negative" from "stable," citing "uncertainty" swirling around the rollout of President Obama's health care law.

In a new report, the agency said that the outlook for insurance companies is no longer clear because the law's insurance exchanges haven't been attracting enough younger individuals. In addition, Moody's analysts were concerned that the Obama administration has been changing regulations after insurers had already set prices for the year.



The release noted, "Uncertainty over the demographics of those enrolling in individual products through the exchanges is a key factor in Moody's outlook change. ... Enrollment statistics show that only 24 percent of enrollees so far are between 18 and 34, a critical age group in ensuring that lower claim costs subsidize the higher claim costs of less healthy, older individuals. This is well short of the original 40 percent target based on the proportion of eligible people in this cohort."

Little Linky
Obamacare = FAIL!

Get It?



posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 05:02 PM
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Moody's slashes outlook on insurers, cites Obamacare 'uncertainty'

 


Well this certainly is some damning news !!

I wonder if they are buttering us up for a bailout?

It must be the administration's way of modifying capitalist DNA.

The government and the corporations are really going in circles with this.

In the meantime, the money funnels are getting wider by the minute.



posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 05:39 PM
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xuenchen
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Moody's slashes outlook on insurers, cites Obamacare 'uncertainty'

 


Well this certainly is some damning news !!

I wonder if they are buttering us up for a bailout?

It must be the administration's way of modifying capitalist DNA.

The government and the corporations are really going in circles with this.

In the meantime, the money funnels are getting wider by the minute.





No, not really the shock of the Bail Out, we know that's coming.
What most people don't know is this little article here.


Though many may not realize it, states are allowed to recover the cost of health care after someone's death by seizing their assets. It applies to Medicaid recipients who are between the ages of 55 and 64. The law has been in place since 1993, when Congress realized states were going broke over rising Medicaid expenses.



But under ObamaCare, Medicaid eligibility has expanded dramatically along with the promise that the federal government will pick up the cost of the higher tab -- at least for the first few years, after which states will be on the hook for a portion of the increase.

Millions more are entering the system, perhaps without knowing that their assets could be at risk.

That's right folks, your children can be responsible for your medical bills, or they can take your house and property.


But the 23 other states that expanded Medicaid under ObamaCare have not changed their estate recovery policies. A lot of money is at stake.

In 2004, California collected $44.6 million through estate recovery. It's a number that is certain to rise dramatically. MediCal officials tell Fox News they expect 1 million-2 million additional enrollees by 2015.

Minnesota, a much smaller state than California, managed to collect $25 million in 2004. It, too, is keeping its estate recovery policy in place.

Critics see a money grab

Linky



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 12:39 PM
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Well they've finally admitted it or at lest they'll have to soon.
There is a story out there and it states, Five (5) Million With Out Health Insurance or actually To Poor For Obamacare!
OH, I know what you're going to say, Doom and Gloom another FOXNEWS report,,,,, No folks this is not a FOXNEWS report.
This comes from one of Your, Liberal News Outlets, Yes, GASP! Take another Deep Breath, It's TRUE!!!

So I'd like to Bump this thread, my friend and his thread deserves to be brought back into the light I think, May Be You Don't Think So, But this is My Opinion.


Alphonse is one of nearly 5 million uninsured Americans caught in a cruel gap that renders some Americans "too poor for Obamacare."



Obamacare was supposed to make health coverage affordable, or even free, for low-income Americans. The law's official name is the Affordable Care Act. However, the Supreme Court tossed a huge obstacle in the path of that goal in 2012, ruling that the states could opt out of one of Obamacare's crucial provisions: The expansion of Medicaid coverage to anyone making less than 133 percent of the federal poverty level, or about $15,300 a year for a single person. Since the court's ruling, 24 states, including Florida, chose not to expand the program.

Under the pre-Obamacare rules, eligibility for the program typically was limited to low-income children, pregnant women, parents caring for children at home, and adults with disabilities. Without the law's expansion, an adult without a disability who isn't living with their children -- like Alphonse -- doesn't qualify for Medicaid, no matter how poor he or she is.

There you have it, I made it BOLD so you can read it easier. Oh, by the way, the story is from,,,,, Wait For It

Milliona are now realizing their to poor for obamacare

edit on 31-1-2014 by guohua because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 02:29 PM
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That would destroy the healthcare industry which makes up 1/6 of the economy. Medicare pays only a quarter of what insurance companies pay. Imagine doctors and nurses getting paid only 20% of their current income. It's would destroy the economy.

Free market is the only option and will work if government get the hell out of the way and let it work like it should. Right now we only have 5% free market in healthcare every thing else is government fix prices.




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