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Utah on the way to having ZERO homeless!!

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posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 03:25 PM
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And how do they do this??

By giving homes to the homeless!

who wudda thunk it - you can stop people being homeless by giving them a home!


In eight years, Utah has quietly reduced homelessness by 78 percent, and is on track to end homelessness by 2015.

How did Utah accomplish this? Simple. Utah solved homelessness by giving people homes. In 2005, Utah figured out that the annual cost of E.R. visits and jail says for homeless people was about $16,670 per person, compared to $11,000 to provide each homeless person with an apartment and a social worker. So, the state began giving away apartments, with no strings attached. Each participant in Utah’s Housing First program also gets a caseworker to help them become self-sufficient, but the keep the apartment even if they fail.


In a "red" state no less........
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posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 03:29 PM
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Aloysius the Gaul
And how do they do this??

By giving homes to the homeless!

who wudda thunk it - you an stop people being homeless by giving them a home!


In eight years, Utah has quietly reduced homelessness by 78 percent, and is on track to end homelessness by 2015.

How did Utah accomplish this? Simple. Utah solved homelessness by giving people homes. In 2005, Utah figured out that the annual cost of E.R. visits and jail says for homeless people was about $16,670 per person, compared to $11,000 to provide each homeless person with an apartment and a social worker. So, the state began giving away apartments, with no strings attached. Each participant in Utah’s Housing First program also gets a caseworker to help them become self-sufficient, but the keep the apartment even if they fail.


Not sure how I feel about this yet, but at least they are doing something positive with tax dollars.......good on them.

Eight years if a long stretch, I am curious how many now work and are self sufficient.

In a "red" state no less........



posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 03:30 PM
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Aloysius the Gaul
And how do they do this??

By giving homes to the homeless!

who wudda thunk it - you an stop people being homeless by giving them a home!


In eight years, Utah has quietly reduced homelessness by 78 percent, and is on track to end homelessness by 2015.

How did Utah accomplish this? Simple. Utah solved homelessness by giving people homes. In 2005, Utah figured out that the annual cost of E.R. visits and jail says for homeless people was about $16,670 per person, compared to $11,000 to provide each homeless person with an apartment and a social worker. So, the state began giving away apartments, with no strings attached. Each participant in Utah’s Housing First program also gets a caseworker to help them become self-sufficient, but the keep the apartment even if they fail.


In a "red" state no less........


More states/countries should do this. There will always be those that can't and will not be helped but you have to try.
No place for homelessness in the 1st world, especially in this day and age.



posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 04:02 PM
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I mean this is an amazing feat no doubt. But what are the population demograpics of Utah? HAve they had a high homeless population?? Do even alot of peole live in Utah? and With bigger metropilis's and cities the Low income housing programs have long wait lines. Can this work for those places where there is a big homeless population. ANd there is no cost to the state by doing this either?



posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 04:06 PM
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I don't have a lot of love for religious folks in general, but after having worked with and lived among Mormons, some of there general ideas are actually a lot of common sense and charity. They are one of the few groups of religious folks that truly walk the walk. They do this in a lot of ways, and many of them are admirable.

Like I said, not a lot of love from me, I am a former christian, and agnostic at this point. The Mormons I have been associated with have been good, charitable, common sense folks. I won't say they all are, and the church is fractured at this point, but there are always bad apples among any group.



posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 04:48 PM
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American-philosopher
I mean this is an amazing feat no doubt. But what are the population demograpics of Utah? HAve they had a high homeless population?? Do even alot of peole live in Utah? and With bigger metropilis's and cities the Low income housing programs have long wait lines. Can this work for those places where there is a big homeless population. ANd there is no cost to the state by doing this either?


Read the article - it is cheaper than doing anything else!



posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 04:49 PM
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THERE IS HOPE FOR HUMANITY AFTER ALL!

That being said, a little part of me wants to think that it was done in part to please the UN. If anyone else has read Agenda 21, they could back me up that in there the UN repeatedly mention "Eradicating Homlessness".

But non the less, That is amazing news and more governments should follow suit.



posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 05:42 PM
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Yes god forbid that anything in Agenda 21 might actually be reasonable ......



posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 06:15 PM
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Im didnt mean it like that, I ment that The actual decision to do that could be because of agenda 21 as it states that it should be taken care of at the lower ends of governments (Municiple/state/provincial) just like the smart grid.

I am not saying its a bad thing, Im just saying that it is in agenda 21 and now we are seeing it happen at the levels of government that was mentioned in the agenda.

Thats it, I wasn't trying to sound mean or anything, I was just making the link between the two.



posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 06:39 PM
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I was going to say "Good work Utah!", but I started to think about it while writing... They made one big assumption to justify the program. The housing and social worker will be the only costs incurred by the state for the homeless individual. They won't have any more ER visits or be arrested as soon as they have housing. I would hope that it is actually saving the state's taxpayers some money and helping some people get the leg up they need. With any moderate successes this program could be used as a model for other states and municipalities. They figured out how to sell it in a red state, maybe they could use it on all the states.



posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 06:42 PM
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We need to stop blaming people who are less fortunate for their problems.

Im not saying eliminate them from a sense of responsability for their choices but how about we try coming together as a community to help people instead of creating a mass of divided unemployable homeless people who no chance for a future.



posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 07:22 PM
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The only thing I can say about this, is that I live in Utah, and we are not called the "Bee Hive" State for nothing. We always find ways to help other people.

Plus, due to our religion, we have a hard time NOT helping people. Those in the other states can do this, however, choose not to.

This is my take on this subject.



posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 07:23 PM
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Maybe i should move to Utah because in Florida theres nothing but service jobs economy. Its that or North Dakota, how cold does it get in Utah?



posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 07:29 PM
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We are many, and they are few.

Agenda 21's purpose is to force everyone into pockets of cities, dumb them down, turn them into slaves with little pay, and sterilize them so that they are controlled.

Very sickening, if I might say.

However, what can one small act of benevolence to one homeless person do?
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posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 07:30 PM
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To answer your question, -2 Fahrenheit in December, 90 in the summer.



posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 07:37 PM
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Hey, great catch on this OP! What a good story!

My first reaction was...WTH?! Another giveaway!? Then, looking at the numbers? Well.... They a point. We, as a society have 3 choices I guess. We can hassle with them, jail them and as noted...deal with the medical which comes from basically camping in a city. We can set them up with basic places like this....or, we can just kill them. There really is NO 4th option, is there?

Well.. Everyone calm down on #3..I'd never..ever..advocate such a thing. It's just the only other option within physical possibility. So, indeed... Do we pay MORE just to say we stuck it to 'em by throwing them in jail (to become harder and worse people anyway) or...if for nothing else, as this says, supply shelter as the most economic way of handling the issue?

Not a bad solution, given the math. Not bad at all....and it's even the human and decent thing to do.



posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 07:38 PM
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FreedomCommander
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Agenda 21's purpose is to force everyone into pockets of cities, dumb them down, turn them into slaves with little pay, and sterilize them so that they are controlled.

Very sickening, if I might say.


Only that people still believe this BS!


Perhaps you could start another thread and show us the bits in Agenda 21 that require all this?? Especially since the agreement is non binding and implementation is voluntary ......



posted on Jan, 21 2014 @ 08:33 PM
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If I might ask, sir, who made you the master of all information?



posted on Feb, 24 2014 @ 03:30 PM
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FreedomCommander
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We are many, and they are few.

Agenda 21's purpose is to force everyone into pockets of cities, dumb them down, turn them into slaves with little pay, and sterilize them so that they are controlled.

Very sickening, if I might say.

However, what can one small act of benevolence to one homeless person do?
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I don't think you have actually read Agenda 21.



posted on Feb, 24 2014 @ 03:55 PM
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Dunno - who did?




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