It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
JohnPhoenix
I don't see a problem with this.. in fact.. the scarier you make impending doom for a fellow that has a death sentence, the more likely it will help others stop and think before they commit murder.
Firing squad sure.. I'd even take slow dismemberment with no anesthesia using a rusty hack saw. And I'd televise it live on CNN.
First of all, then, society does not believe its own words. If it did, we would be shown the heads. Executions would be given the same promotional campaign ordinarily reserved for government loans or a new brand of apéritif. Yet it is well known on the contrary, that in France executions no longer take place in public—they are perpetrated in prison yards before an audience limited to specialists.
We must either kill publicly, or admit we do not feel authorized to kill. If society justifies the death penalty as a necessary example, then it must justify itself by providing the publicity necessary to make an example. Society must display the executioner's hands on each occasion, and require the most squeamish citizens to look at them, as well as those who, directly or remotely, have supported the work of those hands from the first. Otherwise society confesses that it kills without consciousness of what it does or what it says; or that it kills yet knows, too, that far from intimidating belief, these disgusting ceremonies can only awaken a sense of criminality
zeroBelief
Liquesence
Exactly. Death by hanging is not instantaneous much of the time, therefore suffering is likely involved, which is not humane (and the prospect of death and the leading to the gallows (or any place of execution) can be suffering as much).
Ugly, perhaps. Certainly messy, but yes far quicker.
When your execution date is known the countdown is filled with just as much anxiety as not knowing when it will be, and they will just come an get you (the latter which was also argued by Camus). Such as your Japan example.
Soooo.....we're basically in agreement, except for the semantics involved in knowing/not knowing when your incarceration will lead to execution.
Gotchya.
But, I did also suggest death by hypothermia. And I also agreed with the concept of death by guillotine. And, frankly, a gunshot at point blank range to the back of the head...nice, effective, no real pain, and immediate death.
So there you go!!!!edit on 18-1-2014 by zeroBelief because: (no reason given)
Liquesence
Mamatus
Sadly while it is not a bad idea as far as the treatment of criminals goes one needs to think of the effect it would have on the individuals who had to carry out the sentence. I for one could never have that job. Quick bullet to the head is efficient.edit on 18-1-2014 by Mamatus because: (no reason given)
JohnPhoenix
I don't see a problem with this.. in fact.. the scarier you make impending doom for a fellow that has a death sentence, the more likely it will help others stop and think before they commit murder.
Firing squad sure.. I'd even take slow dismemberment with no anesthesia using a rusty hack saw. And I'd televise it live on CNN.
zeroBelief
Mamatus
Sadly while it is not a bad idea as far as the treatment of criminals goes one needs to think of the effect it would have on the individuals who had to carry out the sentence. I for one could never have that job. Quick bullet to the head is efficient.edit on 18-1-2014 by Mamatus because: (no reason given)
Oh, my friend....there is someone for EVERY job society creates in it's wicked little mind
Ones that will not cry from bearing witness to perform such a duty.
Mamatus
zeroBelief
Mamatus
Sadly while it is not a bad idea as far as the treatment of criminals goes one needs to think of the effect it would have on the individuals who had to carry out the sentence. I for one could never have that job. Quick bullet to the head is efficient.edit on 18-1-2014 by Mamatus because: (no reason given)
Oh, my friend....there is someone for EVERY job society creates in it's wicked little mind
Ones that will not cry from bearing witness to perform such a duty.
And those are the first people we should shoot..........
Mamatus
reply to post by zeroBelief
Want really myopic? I would shoot every single person that gets caught committing an aggressive act of violence against another human. Tis' a crowded place and the rabid dogs need to be put down.
edit on 18-1-2014 by Mamatus because: Gwammer and speeeeling
Panic2k11
reply to post by shaneslaughta
I almost wish that you get wrongly convicted or the state attempts to politically silence you... in any case if you are in a State that has death penalty you already are paying due to social effects of having a higher disregard for human life and opting to satisfy basic human nature. To have criminals you first need a society.
Mamatus
reply to post by crazyewok
Would they have to play it over and over? Just once would work for me.
Mamatus
reply to post by crazyewok
It could be worse imagine if Beib and Lady GaGa did a duet?