Odd Metallic Symbol Mysteries

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posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 08:48 AM
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I just read about a crop circle case in Hildesheim Germany that I had not
heard of before. This crop circle story peaked my interest because not
only was there a crop circle discovered, but artifacts were found buried
at the site.



It is said discs were uncovered by a man who showed up with a metal
detector to the crop circle. Who then sold the plates to an
industrialist. The gold plate was broken in half while the silver
and bronze were sold to him for about 25,000 euros which equates to
about 34,000 USD today. The gold plate was said to be worth 75,000
euros which equates to roughly 100,000 USD today. I don't know what
the euro was worth in 1991 when this happened. It appears that
the gold plate was either not sold or only half of it was sold ?
I was a tad confused on the gold plate, based on the reading I
did it sounds like it went missing.


A visitor to the farm, a man wearing a house painter’s outfit and a
hanging moustache, turned up nine days later bringing along his metal
detector. He searched all nine parts of the pictogram dropping a
handkerchief in three spots as mark…all of them had a spherical symbol,
less than a semi-circle attached to it. Then he went to his car to pick
up a digging tool and a bucket unearthing a bronze, silver and gold
plates at the three areas he marked.


The 3 plates were identical representations of the crop circle.

The metal content of the 3 plates were also in very pure form:
After analysis the following was discovered.



“Plate one (silver color) consisted mainly of quite pure silver
(what an understatement!), with an additional ingredient accounting
for less than 0.1%. The weight of the plate was 4.98kg (11lbs).
Plate two (bronze color) consisted of a copper-tin alloy (of which
the tin content amounted to 10%-15%), nickel and traces of iron
amounting to less than 0.1%”.



This meant that the silver plate consisted of 99.9% pure silver,
purer than sterling-silver. Furthermore, a spectrographic analysis
of both plates proved that they had not been made from a cast but
from some kind of conglomerate of silver nuggets and natural copper
and tin pieces of the type found in Germany’s Harz forest, not far
from Grasdorf. They had been produced, either by heating up to a
degree that partially melted the metals – or in a low-gravity environment.



It is further mentioned of the gold plate, of the finest quality that had
been seen by the examiner.









The three discs of gold, silver and bronze were found at three different
points in the crop circle seen below.







So what is this ? Could this be a star map ? Or an Alchemy formula?





Sun = Gold
Moon = Silver
Venus - Bronze

The Ages of Man, Gold/Silver/Bronze:


Golden Age – The Golden Age is the only age that falls within the rule of Cronus. Molded out of the earth through the hands of Prometheus, these humans were said to live among the gods, and freely mingled with them. Peace and harmony prevailed during this age. Humans did not have to work to feed themselves, for the earth provided food in abundance. They lived to a very old age but with a youthful appearance and eventually died peacefully. Their spirits live on as "guardians". Plato in Cratylus (397 e) recounts the golden race of men who came first. He clarifies that Hesiod did not mean men literally made of gold, but good and noble. He describes these men as daemons upon the earth. Since δαίμονες (daimones) is derived from δαήμονες (daēmones, meaning knowing or wise), they are beneficent, preventing ills, and guardians of mortals.



Silver Age – The Silver Age and every age that follows fall within the rule of Cronus' successor and son, Zeus. Men in the Silver age lived for one hundred years under the dominion of their mothers. They lived only a short time as grown adults, and spent that time in strife with one another. During this Age men refused to worship the gods and Zeus destroyed them for their impiety. After death, humans of this age became "blessed spirits" of the underworld.



Bronze Age – Men of the Bronze Age were hardened and tough, as war was their purpose and passion. Zeus created these humans out of the ash tree. Their armor was forged of bronze, as were their homes, and tools. The men of this Age were undone by their own violent ways and left no named spirits; instead, they dwell in the "dank house of Hades". This Age came to an end with the flood of Deucalion.


Is this crop circle a representation of the sun, moon and venus which
relates to gold, silver and bronze ? If so what is it trying to say?
Or is it a secret formula to alchemy like the philosophers stone ?

How did the guy with the metal detector know there would be something
buried at the site who then in turn dug up the artifacts and then
sold them ? Was this a planned event on the part of several individuals
to make quick money ?

Any ideas ?

I don't know what it is but I thought it was fun and interesting to read,
it definitely captivated me for an afternoon.

Source
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enjoy
leolady




posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:09 AM
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How did the guy with the metal detector know there would be something
buried at the site who then in turn dug up the artifacts and then
sold them ? Was this a planned event on the part of several individuals
to make quick money ?
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Considering crop circles have been known to carry some strange metallic readings, I just think this guy did what most people who have interests in crop circles and ufology would do. If I had a metal detector and lived nearby, It would probably cause me to bring my metal detector to see if I could pick up any metallic reading from the crop circle.

This guy could have planned the whole thing, but than again, he could have been completely innocent. I just wondered why this didn't receive media attention considering artifacts were found. Even if it is a hoax, I still think it should have gained media interest, considering how much tabloid celebrity news takes center stage.



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:09 AM
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Awesome find Leolady!

I am (and always will be) a crop circle sceptic, purely because I used to be fascinated and then I saw loads of people explaining how they are made, kinda killed the buzz for me!

However this one is quite interesting, there are two possible explanations:

1) He had some old artefacts he wanted to sell, he thought he might make a lot more if he pulled this stunt off.

2) He recognised the symbols in the crop circle, and realised there may be artefacts there because of some knowledge we are not yet aware of.

My vote is number one, but honestly, could be either really.



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:14 AM
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Thanks, this is one of the few cases I never really could figure out.
A lot of bizarre aspects for sure.

If it were a hoax, it's an incredible investment for something so petty.
I really don't know though, I am open to a lot of possibilities here.

We lack data.
But... I'll look over it again to see if I am missing some newer developments.



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:28 AM
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They almost look like parts of some kind of machine, maybe they are instruction disks. We incorporate some of these shapes into tools and mechanisms. What did the ancient people use this technology for that it was necessary to make gold instructions for, instructions that could last millions of years.



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:30 AM
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Too bad the farmer whose crops were ruined did not legally lay claim to anything found in his field is the thought that runs through my head as I prepare my second cup of the day.



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 10:15 AM
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I know... I thought about that too. I wondered why on earth the farmer let this stranger
with the metal detector come onto his property dig up the found artifacts and then sell them ?
Wouldn't the farmer of had rights to them being they were found on his property?

In the reading I did, it says the farmer also charged for people to come see the crop circle.

This information is damaging to the credibility of the crop circle... piecing this info together
does make one tend toward a hoax or a scheme to simply make money. The farmer
and this metal detector person working together ?

I read that the objects weren't found until 9 days later...

But, indeed a lot of work and effort would of went into it just like muzzleflash points out
for it to be a hoax. But also look at the amount of money that was made all together !



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 10:20 AM
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I just wondered why this didn't receive media attention considering artifacts were found.


It appears it did receive media attention. The original video in the thread I posted appeared to
be from fox news.

Also the article states a segment was aired on a show called Encounters- The Hidden Truth in an
Episode called Alien Contact.

I tried to find a copy of the episode on the web but not having any luck. Maybe someone else
can find it. Believe me... I went searching b/c I wanted to see more on it. :-)

All I could find is this in the link below but it does't lead to the video
www.locatetv.com...



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 10:23 AM
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reply to post by leolady
 


I call shenanigan's,as the shadows appear to be above the field.The lighting is all wrong



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 10:23 AM
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Now that is an interesting out look indeed ! A diagram of a machine preserved in gold.

hmmmm... now I'm going to be off looking at images of machine diagrams :-)



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 11:31 AM
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A very interesting 10/10 thread. I never knew such cases where present in Germany, but now i know the alien action range is actually more bigger than i though, not limiting to the USA/Mexico only


Thanks for the information!



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 12:20 PM
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reply to post by leolady
 

How does one "break" gold?



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 01:06 PM
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The metal content of the 3 plates were also in very pure form


i would like to see the results of the analysis done on the plates.
i think this could be key to the whole story. if the plates really were of a very high purity then we could have a genuine mystery on our hands here. Unfortunately i doubt very much we'll ever see the results, which is a darn shame.



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 01:27 PM
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leolady
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Now that is an interesting out look indeed ! A diagram of a machine preserved in gold.

hmmmm... now I'm going to be off looking at images of machine diagrams :-)



I could use all those shapes to design tools to do different things. Maybe those had something to do with equipment to build the pyramid or maybe they had something to do with a tool used to grind rock or make cement. They could even represent something for grinding grains or making beer. I guess knowing a use for all these things in one application may be lost in history. Maybe it even has something to do with a technique to stamp coins faster..



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 01:32 PM
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reply to post by leolady
 


The Euro didn't exist in 1991.



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 03:48 PM
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This thread from 2009 says the plates were analyzed by the German Federal Institute for Material Research (Bundesanstalt fur Materialpufung) in Berlin.

According to that thread, the name of the place that did the testing is German Federal Institute for Material Research (Bundesanstalt fur Materialpufung) Their website

(At least I'm assuming this is the same place..if not..then ooops)

I emailed them:
Message: Your message
Can you tell me if your facility ever performed an analysis of silver,
bronze and gold plates found in 1992 in a crop circle in Grasdorf? It is
claimed that a Dr Roemer-Blum, arranged a scientific evaluation of these articles. This is part of an on-going discussion at
www.abovetopsecret.com... If such an analysis were done, what where the results? Thank you and I hope I am not wasting your time.

They answered:

Dear Ms. Xxxxxx

thank you for your request.

Unfortunately we cannot help you. There were no analysis performed in BAM.

Kind regards,

BAM Federal Institue for Materials research and testing


Am Mittwoch, 21. Januar 2009 01:37 schrieben Sie:
Diese Daten wurden am Mittwoch, 21.Januar 2009 um 01:37:16 von
, (e-mail: ) übermittelt. Es wurde das Formular
www.bam.de... benutzt.

....make of it what you will.



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 05:42 PM
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This is really an interesting find! Thanks so much for posting it, I haven't heard of this one.
Interesting that they replied that they did not do any tests.. hmm.
I am curious how they think the plates were made since they were not cast? They almost look stamped or maybe pressed into a mold while molten but not liquid. Interesting indeed! I wonder whatever became of them?



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 08:32 PM
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Not usually that interested in crop circle stories. I am not really sure what to believe. Some of them are so complex. This is an amazing story. If those plates actually came from the site...this somewhat raises the bar in my opinion. Thanks for sharing this.



posted on Jan, 19 2014 @ 08:46 AM
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reply to post by angryhulk
 


You are absolutely correct. I think it was the Deutsche Mark before the Euro which I
think came in 2002.



posted on Jan, 19 2014 @ 09:49 AM
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Ahhh thank you for the link to the prior thread from 2009 & for your email and
reply that was sent to the lab that did the supposed testing of the plates !
It was a fascinating read I must say !

I wonder though just as someone else brought up on the earlier thread, how long
their records are easily accessible. After 17 years has passed, how easy it is for
them to reach their archives ? What were their archive processes back in 91 ?
Was it a manual process and then changed over through the years... Just more
to ponder.


edit on 19-1-2014 by leolady because: cuz





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