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We do NOT live in a police state! Please move on.

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posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 08:48 PM
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Ya i'm all for someone like him, he brings up really great things. Just from what I've seen, if you mention that your source is him, doesn't seem to stand well. And I'm sure half of the insane stuff he does say is to keep his ratings up. Can't knock the hustle there.




posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 08:48 PM
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projectbane

Sremmos80

projectbane

Sremmos80

projectbane
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It just seems to me that people have been scared into having this state of mind (but not by any credible source or reason)....maybe watching that stupid program....what's its called oh yeah "fox news".


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I can almost guarantee Fox news is not running a piece on police states, furthermore most on this website would take what fox news had to say with a grain OF a grain of salt. Since you still wont address it i will ask again, How does the 100 mile constitution free zone not go against EVERYTHING you posted in OP? Maybe 3rd times a charm


I have many people to reply to. YOU are not significant anymore than others. But there is your libertarian view "me me me me" like a child whining for his moms attention!

No but it s a show for people who liked to be egged on. They continuously have guests on who pander to the fears of the population. The distort every piece of incoming news into something that it is not. They encourage the "fear" factor....like when they continuously kept spouting on about the "birth certificate" riling people up, splitting a country!!

And for one they don't tell the truth on there.


No but you replied to post with the question in the same post....twice.... So you do keep replying to me, just avoiding the questions I ask you


Well I checked back and YOU are right. I missed your post and did not reply with the answer you were looking for. MY sincerer apologies I was not targeting you for lesser treatment. I will try to answer everyone when I can.
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I've been to jail several times and many of them for the dumbest charges. I was growing weed legally with a license and they locked me up anyway. Set my bond at $10,000 for having 7 plants. Said I couldn't smoke my medical marijuana before I even plead any thing and made me take drug tests before trial. Told me if I got caught for anything like a misdemeanor ie driving without a license I would have to mandatory do 1 year in prison even if I was found not guilty of the original charge which I beat after 10 court appearances over a year where all they did was try to get me to take a deal and every time came with a better one but I said NO to them and they just dropped my case. The bad part is I spent a couple months in jail waiting for my family to be able to bond me out and since I was on bond for a year I caught a speeding ticket and my license was suspended for an underage drinking ticket so guess what? Had to do a year for it cuz that was the terms of the one sided deal they force u go agree to without any option if u want to get out of jail. They could have thrown me in prison for missing a drug test before being found guilty. That is not due process that is legal fiction corporate punishment fraud. While I did all this time from ages 19-22 with hardened criminals, murderers as my cell mates, rapists, and bums I learned a lot about how the system works and how some of the most serious criminals get the breaks for some odd reason. I got the shortest end of the stick for sure but every day the body stealing goes on and it's Big Business. Biggest in the wotld



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 08:50 PM
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Right, i agree. However i dont knock the things he brought to the table that were valid.

Lets choose to adress content instead of the messenger and lets individually adress each one.

Well never get to the truth if we dont do that.


Its like ignoring all of my threads because some of the things i post are so abstract that noone understands them but me. But honestly sometimes i have a decent topic to talk about and sometimes i am abstract and rambling.



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 08:50 PM
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I understand but when he facilitates learning what is going on and hidden from the public I find him useful . Such is the event where Norwegian troops were training in California to bust into your house and put you into the camps with our militaries help . They set up m60 machinegun nest and was shooting in a residential neighborhood , busting down doors and hauling people to as was put in American "process you into the camp " . Sure this was an exercise and the homes no doubt repaired but it was a practice for the real thing . And lately this has been a reality for some people who really aren't criminals with '' no knock warrants " .



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:00 PM
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Agreed to both again you don't have to sell me, I was just thinking about the story of the boy that cried wolf. Sure he got it wrong twice, but isn't there also the old better safe then sorry saying? A wolf eventually did come... Idk i think thats how some one like him gets blacklisted as a "crazy"



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:09 PM
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There is a "group" of people who are bent on world domination that in their plan stated ridicule as a weapon to dissuade us from seeking to learn their plan . Truther is used to ridicule people wanting the truth . Alex is about making money and promoting himself but so are all of the politicians and us too . I haven't figured out Glenn Beck though, he just might be a Zionist tool to slowly destroy our hope . This too is in their plan .



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:13 PM
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In his money making and promoting himself he successfully promotes ideas.

I do wish he was more accurate and would promote the right ideas. At least hes an advocate against gun control, and agenda 21, as well as he speaks out about Satanic mind control and fracturing kids minds to create multiple personalities.

Its a big deal people gotta pay more attention to the message and addessing content, everything is so much about who instead of what.
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posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:19 PM
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Right now he is the only one I trust . I like Glenn Beck but some how I think he could be being used by them . The Globalist have a very detailed plan on using people and influencing people though it was written a couple of hundred years ago . They use advertisement money and twist the arms of people you rely on to get what they want . Just look at Henry Ford !



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:30 PM
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I dont trust anyone but i do source a lot of people for knowledge.

I really try to analyze the data and discern the truth for myself. I never listen to or believe anything at first glance. I always spend time contemplating it. Even with people in my daily life, its the thing you have to do when dealing with humans.



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:39 PM
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Can't help it because the topic is a good one for discussion but I have to ask, why are you so mad? It's funny how condescending you are. Your argument loses validity when you can't discuss the issue without all the childish put downs. Actually, keep going with them. Like I said, it's funny - just not funny in the way you may think. Carry on.

CJ


You replied to me, with a link to one of my posts!! Calling me condescending? Did you read the post you used?

I am constantly having to repeat myself! the same people asking the same BS questions. Nothing condescending about my posts. I am not "mad". I am now realizing why the conspiracy community is shunned and only sees things from their often wrong perspective. Most of the replies come from people who have less patriotism that a bonafide terrorist. Everyone wants what "THEY" want and never give an ounce of thought to the rest of the country.

They neither offer anything to the country or contribute to its well being. They have not made sacrifices for the safety and security of this GREAT nation but instead think their point is somehow justified because of their intense paranoia, and they have earned the right. You never earned the right, it was afforded you by the people who protect this country from those who would do it harm, the Constitution and the fact WE are NOT in a police state.

Having to deal with similar people every day of my life becomes tiresome. They refuse to listen or blame the system for the predicament they find themselves in. They all want it "their" way but that is implausible!!

They see an injustice and tarnish a whole serving community of men and women who give something each and every day of their lives to make sure criminals and terrorists are kept at bay as much as possible. Its not a perfect system by any means but it is one that is progressive and with each new government it changes a little here and there.

Remember, the president of the USA was VOTED in by the people for the people. Meaning HE can be voted out!! Did that happen? NO, the majority of people therefore must be satisfied that he is the best candidate out of the ones available.

But that doesn't please the FEW, the ones who continuously brandish their hatred of the people who are instructed to enforce the laws of the land. These FEW people want to live in a society where no one tells them what they can and cant do. But it is not feasible. What do you people NOT get. The Police STATE you imagine is a far cry from an actual POLICE STATE.

Once again I will repeat (worse than talking to children - does that qualify as condescending?) YOU are still FREE to do as you wish within the boundaries of the law of the land! YOU are on ATS right? WOW that police state ALLOWS this?

Most on here who complain without any real basis for their "copycat" notions are lost causes. Possibly depressed with their lives and failure and having to wear a paper hat to work.
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posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:42 PM
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Do they still have private messages on here ?



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:42 PM
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Yeah, you sent me a message didnt you? Im pretty sure i responded.



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:46 PM
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Can I ask you a very serious question?

Are you a middle class white male, from a small town or suburb, practice a popular religion and hold normal political views?

Whether you admit it or not, I bet you never fell into one of the vulnerable groups.

Be a part of a vulnerable minority or get on the wrong side of connected person and see how fast your freedoms disappear.

The only difference between the US and other countries is that we are supposed to be free - so they have to be a little more sneaky about it.


If this is the criteria for a police state, we have always lived in one. Our freedoms are greater than ever before. Our social mobility up until the last decade is as great as it has ever been.



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:47 PM
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Please respond to my post im interested in your view on what im saying.


Sorry! Got sucked into more fascist police videos


I absolutely agree with your positions, 100%. Our rights have been hijacked, and as you correctly point out it begins with limiting simple things like property and activities, based of course on the collective good.
I feel that as a nation we have submitted to violation after violation...death by a thousand cuts, as it were.
The police brutality we have today is the next phase I suppose. At least finally the general public has had a significant wake up call due to Snowden.



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:51 PM
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Thanks I see now how to read them . Jesus will be warming up the trumpet pretty soon . I guess he felt the same way about the way they took him in the garden . No different for us .



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 09:58 PM
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you do realise you are on a conspiracy site ridiculing people because of the thoughts they adhere to.....just because people do not agree with you does not make them wrong...here is an idea try and debate people without condecending them......you must really find it difficult making friends ...maybe you should get a dog and teach it to play fetch



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 10:02 PM
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Can I ask you a very serious question?

Are you a middle class white male, from a small town or suburb, practice a popular religion and hold normal political views?

Whether you admit it or not, I bet you never fell into one of the vulnerable groups.

Be a part of a vulnerable minority or get on the wrong side of connected person and see how fast your freedoms disappear.

The only difference between the US and other countries is that we are supposed to be free - so they have to be a little more sneaky about it.


If this is the criteria for a police state, we have always lived in one. Our freedoms are greater than ever before. Our social mobility up until the last decade is as great as it has ever been.


There wasn't really criteria laid out in this post.. others there was, just not the one you quoted. And you say up until the last decade or social mobility has been great. A lot has been discussed here was in the last decade. Would you say it is at its greatest ever today or does tomorrow hold that promise?



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 10:04 PM
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you do realise you are on a conspiracy site ridiculing people because of the thoughts they adhere to.....just because people do not agree with you does not make them wrong...here is an idea try and debate people without condecending them......you must really find it difficult making friends ...maybe you should get a dog and teach it to play fetch


Actually it the conspiracy world that can not stand it when hard facts and science interfere with their ill thoughout theories that rely more on creating divisions than about anything else.

Every one of your posts to me has been condescending. You pipe up here and there with limited contribution but just to be smug about your nonsensical theories and "we are the victims" attitude.



posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 10:04 PM
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good idea that you bring up "voting". the concept of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same result is lost on 99.9 percent of the "electorate". glad it was never lost on einstien. it's what "clicked" for me about the election seduction that goes on every 2 yrs, seems like all the bull-poo gets thicker and thicker in 2 yr increments. also the only thing new in the world is the history you don't know. which is why the rulers of rome never let the legions inside of rome, until the ruling clique got scared that one time. the roman empire didn't last much longer after that. the new rome appears to be headed down the same path, but you can thank the current emporer for one thing, at least he's NOT lying when he acts EXACTLY like the emporers used to !

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posted on Jan, 18 2014 @ 10:07 PM
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Inherently conspiracy theorist are socially abstract and tend to question things they wouldnt question due to abnormal life experience from probably either parental or other family and friend bad happenings.

Just making an observation, but what im saying is most people here will question everything in an attempt to find truth even if it means completely going out in left field just to explore its full potential and possibilities as a result of them having to do this with people they cant trust in their daily life.

Its just a habit. The best way to debate a topic is to leave out emotional responses and bring the conversation at hand back to the topic how you want it discussed. At this point ignore people who can only respond emotionally or who cant analyse your larger perspective.

A lot of people cant see the bigger picture, it sucks but its true.




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