Obama Orders Curves on NSA Data Use

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posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 08:12 PM
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President Barack Obama has ordered curbs on the use of bulk data collected by US intelligence agencies, saying civil liberties must be respected.

Mr Obama said such data had prevented terror attacks at home and abroad, but that in tackling threats the government risked over-reaching itself.

However civil liberties groups have said the changes do not go far enough.

The announcement follows widespread anger after leaks revealed the full extent of US surveillance operations.

Obama Orders Curves on NSA Data Use



Ha, tricked you - there's no play button there - go to the BBC.

So back in June, Edward Snowden leaked a bunch of NSA documents to The Guardian right about the same time that Obama went after A.P. press records and Michael Hastings was assassinated / died.

Afterwards, there has been an endless amount of news articles coming out about the N.S.A. spying programs, both foreign and domestic. There is not really any doubt that the N.S.A. spy programs were over-reaching.

However, on the other hand, prior to Snowden's release of information, I was looking into how the N.S.A. had been investigating both Obama and McCain -

Even so, I think this is a positive development. The amount of paranoia in the past 6 months about not having any privacy online or through text communication was crippling and seemed to be entering the common social community.

John McCain is also seeking to reform the broken NSA:
John McCain Seeks Congressional Approval to Reform Broken NSA

Further reading:

Washington State Considers Cutting off Electricity, Water for NSA


According to officials at the Tenth Amendment Center, Washington became first state with a physical NSA location to consider the Fourth Amendment Protection Act, which was written and proposed specifically to make life extremely difficult for the powerful and super-secret spy agency.

In a bipartisan move, State Rep. David Taylor (R-Moxee) and State Rep. Luis Moscoso (D- Mountlake Terrace) introduced HB2272 based on model language drafted by the OffNow coalition, it would make it the policy of Washington “to refuse material support, participation, or assistance to any federal agency which claims the power, or with any federal law, rule, regulation, or order which purports to authorize, the collection of electronic data or metadata of any person pursuant to any action not based on a warrant.”


U.S. Directs Agents to Cover Up Program Used to Investigate Americans


(Reuters) - A secretive U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration unit is funneling information from intelligence intercepts, wiretaps, informants and a massive database of telephone records to authorities across the nation to help them launch criminal investigations of Americans.


NSA Collects Millions of SMS Messages World-Wide


The results of a joint investigation conducted by Britain’s Guardian newspaper and Channel 4 News have revealed that the NSA and its UK sister-agency, the GCHQ, pair two previously unreported and top-secret national security programs to collect in bulk and then analyze millions of SMS text messages and other digital data sent around the world each day by mobile phones.


NSA Devises Radio Pathways into Computers


While most of the software is inserted by gaining access to computer networks, the N.S.A. has increasingly made use of a secret technology that enables it to enter and alter data in computers even if they are not connected to the Internet, according to N.S.A. documents, computer experts and American officials.


Edward Snowden Interview
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posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 08:24 PM
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darkbake

Even so, I think this is a positive development. The amount of paranoia in the past 6 months about not having any privacy online or through text communication was crippling and seemed to be entering the common social community.


Please dont tell me you believe or have faith in one god damned word that comes out of this loser puppets mouth....

You saw his lips moving, right? Then you know hes lying.

The truth is that business will continue as usual. Domestic spying will continue to be used and even increase in potency, and "civil liberties" that "must be respected" will continue to be stomped on, steam rolled, and then torched completely until only the fleeting memories remain.

This, what we see here, is just part of the show to help give the gullible proles a false sense of security, or even a whimsical sense of some abstract victory.

Believe none of it.

It is all a lie.

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posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 08:30 PM
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One small piece of the puzzle at a time. Enough to keep momentum but not enough to arouse suspicion of the blissfully ignorant masses.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 08:31 PM
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All he did was allow the government to build a new NSA wiretapping programme. He even says it straight up!

Also, he only focused on that one aspect of phone records. How many people make phone calls now a days when sms, facebook, snapchat, email are at your finger trips. Why he talk a bout the DATA monitoring?



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 08:37 PM
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Agit8dChop
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All he did was allow the government to build a new NSA wiretapping programme. He even says it straight up!

Also, he only focused on that one aspect of phone records. How many people make phone calls now a days when sms, facebook, snapchat, email are at your finger trips. Why he talk a bout the DATA monitoring?


Its because all that is accessed on you smart phone. Even voice is digitized and transmitted. So its not analog voice capture but actual data capture. What he is really saying is the NSA has their eyes on everything your doing.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 08:38 PM
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I thought the dems were against the patriot act,,,
So why did Obama extend it?
The NSA is just proof of their true beliefs.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 08:39 PM
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Nothing that Obama says this days are to be taken seriously, actually we the people should be angrier at him because we know that is nothing but rhetoric, lies and corruption involved.

The NSA has become the corporate dictatorship wed dream, incredible data mining for the purpose to make money as in profits, as it selling information for propaganda and for the government to spy on Americans, persons of interest, other politicians, the supreme court and certain businesses the NSA the IRS are the president personal lab dogs now after the private interest that runs the agency behind the scenes gets their share first.

It no longer has anything to do with terrorism, Homeland of Deception has that job now, I wonder when people is going to understand that in a corporate run government money talks and BS walk.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 08:43 PM
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President Barack Obama has ordered curbs on the use of bulk data collected by US intelligence agencies, saying civil liberties must be respected.



More kitten-brushing and puppy-petting
 


This is dangerous.....


Obama will ask Attorney General Eric Holder and senior intelligence officials to forge a path forward that preserves the capabilities of the program without government retention of the data. The president is asking for a report outlining data-transfer options before March 28, when the collection program comes up for reauthorization.

Additionally, intelligence analysts will now be required to obtain approval from a secret court before querying information from the vast telephone database.

Obama: NSA Reforms Should Give Americans 'Greater Confidence'




posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 08:46 PM
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As the man on Sky news said..."That'll be Angela Merkels mobile phone then"...

LMAO when he said that!
Rainbows
Jane



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 08:50 PM
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xuenchen

This is dangerous.....


Obama will ask Attorney General Eric Holder and senior intelligence officials to forge a path forward that preserves the capabilities of the program without government retention of the data. The president is asking for a report outlining data-transfer options before March 28, when the collection program comes up for reauthorization.

Additionally, intelligence analysts will now be required to obtain approval from a secret court before querying information from the vast telephone database.

Obama: NSA Reforms Should Give Americans 'Greater Confidence'





Have you ever heard that you can get in trouble for knowledge of a crime committed or planned if you fail to report it?

Well now you have non government retention of data of millions of Americans.

Sounds to me like a whistle blowing origination against the people?

Was that where you were going with the dangerous comment??



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 08:51 PM
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The secret court alone is nothing but a corruption entity that do not hold powers under the constitution, actually they are inch by inch erasing constitutional powers, and obviously the corruption that create that court has given powers away over the supreme court, it is actually nothing more than an excuse for the too big and inflated government to do what they wants.

The people have no vote over this secret court, so that makes it unconstitutional and only governments that uses tyranny against their people would create such entity.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 08:58 PM
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"Obama orders......"

HA HA HA.......



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 09:06 PM
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xuenchen

This is dangerous.....




shaneslaughta
Have you ever heard that you can get in trouble for knowledge of a crime committed or planned if you fail to report it?

Well now you have non government retention of data of millions of Americans.

Sounds to me like a whistle blowing origination against the people?

Was that where you were going with the dangerous comment??



Partly yes.

The data retention IS dangerous via blackmail and extortion.

But mainly Eric Holder and the Secret Court are more dangerous.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 09:09 PM
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The very idea of a "secret court" is so damned ridiculous and unconstitutional that it makes me want to find the nearest policy maker and punch him square in the nose.
I mean seriously! Pay attention to the words that they use! These are conditioning devises! They will roll out a new term right along side some egregious government over reach knowing that people are really concerned when the abuse of power.
Yet what they have just done is introduced an unlawful, draconian organization into the public vernacular.
That way, later on down the road, the idiots will just say, "oh yeah, the Secret Court has been around forever. No big deal. We don't get to know who they are or even if they actually exist, but we can trust them. It was them who made it so the NSA can't spy on us at whim"

All the while the NSA is busy buying even MORE servers.
Ugh



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 09:12 PM
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xuenchen

Partly yes.

The data retention IS dangerous via blackmail and extortion.

But mainly Eric Holder and the Secret Court are more dangerous.



You have no idea how dangerous this man is, we most remember that Eric Holder hides behind the law to commit acts that actually erode the law and the constitution when chosing which laws to enforce and which ones to omit.

Is Eric Holder the most dangerous man in America?


Attorney General Eric Holder is regarded by some as the most dangerous man in America, but you won’t find him on any most-wanted lists.

That’s because he is accused of doing his dirty work while wearing a lawman’s badge. He’s like Little Bill, the sheriff in “Unforgiven” — any nefarious act he commits is OK because he is the law.

The evidence is accumulating that Holder is more motivated by politics than the rule of law. Many Americans are deeply troubled that Obama’s chief legal officer seems to prefer overlooking America’s rule of law and favoring executive fiat. Holder chooses not to enforce laws that he and Obama don’t like.

Examples of Holder’s questionable decisions abound, including vendettas against financial institutions and actions and lawsuits brought by his Justice Department against journalists and financial rating services. The agency’s fraud lawsuit against Standard & Poor’s for publishing financial opinions smacked of political retribution against the company that downgraded U.S. credit following the 2011 debt-limit fight. Proof? Other rating firms offering the same bond opinions were excused from the federal investigation. Further, rating firms’ bond opinions have historically been protected under the First Amendment freedom of speech.


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posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 10:22 PM
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JayinAR
The very idea of a "secret court" is so damned ridiculous and unconstitutional that it makes me want to find the nearest policy maker and punch him square in the nose.

...

That way, later on down the road, the idiots will just say, "oh yeah, the Secret Court has been around forever. No big deal. We don't get to know who they are or even if they actually exist, but we can trust them. It was them who made it so the NSA can't spy on us at whim"



Agreed.

Im not sure where exactly Im living ATM... Twilight Zone maybe? Revived Communist Russia? Alternate Timeline Nazi Germany? Oceania? But I am sure it isnt the nation I grew up in.

Not even close.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 10:40 PM
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I'm not buying it. All a facade just like his other hope and change stories meant to distract. It's make people think better of or align better with the administration because there seems to be more of a drift now from it, ratings and such. On the other hand, fact that he's playing this up means they are worried.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 10:42 PM
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Seriously now.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 11:04 PM
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You know, it's interesting you mention that and put it that way... I could not agree more. You know something else? Of all the various things they replay or are remaking ...there sure is one you don't hear mentioned...

Amerika

Were you around to watch that? I did as a kid and it was one I recall.
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posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 11:22 PM
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Hoosierdaddy71
I thought the dems were against the patriot act,,,
So why did Obama extend it?
The NSA is just proof of their true beliefs.


You're talking about Liberal Logic.

All things done by the Messiah is Good.
Bush is Bad!
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