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Putin: Gays at Olympics Must "Leave Children At Peace"

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posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:09 PM
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There is no universal literature that "the gays" will be handing out at the Games; they're not the Moonies for godsake.

There is no "agenda" to make anyone gay. There is a movement to ensure human rights for those who are gay, bisexual and lesbian, young or old.

If one has a religious, moral or ethical problem with gay, bisexual and lesbian activity, then one should not participate in gay, bisexual or lesbian activity.

Saying that another country has the right to do as they wish is fine until the feces lands on your own door-step; for example, Christianity was officially illegal and carried prison sentences and other punishments in the former Soviet Union. Were those laws still in place today, and Putin warned about not pushing Christianity on the young while at the Games, I highly doubt that the cavalier attitudes on display here would be voiced quite so strongly.

*sigh* Pedophilia and homosexuality are not the same, for the humpteen-millionth time for the same reasons as the previous humpteen-million times: (1) a minor cannot legally consent to sexual activity with an adult, (2) sexual activity between consentin adults does not cause harm, while sex with children, animals, and corpses does. (Thought I'd go ahead and cover zoophilia and necrophilia because I'm sure those are on their way to the discussion as well.)



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:13 PM
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FlyersFan

Bone75
its about protecting children's minds from the gay acceptance agenda.

'Gay acceptance agenda' .... what is that?
Do you mean - 'educate people that homosexuality is naturally found in animal species'??
So Russia ... and you? ... are against biology education?

Apparently Russia will throw someone in jail for saying to a teenager .... don't fret about having
same sex attraction feelings, it happens.



So now "educating people that homosexuality is naturally found in animal species " there for homosexuality is normal is now biology education ?

The fact that most animals eat each other, does that make cannibalism acceptable ??



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:16 PM
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Isn't it interesting that Putin is worrying about promoting the gay agenda in Russia?

After years of using propaganda to bring down the west, destroying the fabric or our society, promoting the communist agenda, incouraging atheism, , surprise suddenly he is the new moral authority.

That Putin, what a card.

lolololololololol
oh my sides hurt



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:17 PM
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You can't teach an old dog new tricks, considering he was part of the old Soviet KGB. Since he was part of the old Soviet system, his values and beliefs are still ingrained in his thinking. I was always surprised why the Soviet people would have elected someone with such close ties with the old system after the fall of the Soviet Union.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:20 PM
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I'd still have the same perspective.

You can't be ethical in doing to someone what they just did to you.

Examples so it's clear.

1. Straight man demands a mass boycott of a homosexual run business because he can't accept his fellow human's right to self determination.

2. Gay man demands a mass boycott of a foreign country because he can't accept that society's right to self determination.

It's the exact same thing, just on different scales. Just because you're on one side instead of the other doesn't make it okay.

Edit: Russian laws have zero effect on US citizens much the same way a bigot's words have zero effect on a homosexual. That's why the freedom of the speech in the US is so important to me. It's only when through action or coercion is someone else infringed does retribution become ethical. Russia isn't invading the US for the sake of telling it what's what.
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posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:21 PM
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Can you cite any real examples of higher mammals that eat their own species as a regular part of their diet?

If not, then I want you to write 100 times "I will not talk through my hat or make baseless incendiary statements."



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:21 PM
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And if you can find the thread I posted about the book written by an X KGB agent, that was their agenda, this is how they were planning to destroy us, jokes on them now if he is really that worried, looks like the pendulum is swinging.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:22 PM
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See, I am usually torn too between a country's sovereignty and the individual's right as a human being on this planet. However, in this case I am firmly on the side of the protesters. This isn't just outlawing homosexuality or "propaganda" material, people's lives are in danger. Back in May there was a young man raped and killed and there are many more similar stories to this one. The safety of people should come first above "offending" a country by stepping in or condemning their actions.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:27 PM
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Chimps and dolphins regularly partake in cannibalism. Especially if it's their enemies of a defeated troop/pod.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:31 PM
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Gryphon66
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Can you cite any real examples of higher mammals that eat their own species as a regular part of their diet?

If not, then I want you to write 100 times "I will not talk through my hat or make baseless incendiary statements."



That depends on what you mean by higher mammals, I was referring to Flyers comment about the animal kingdom.

I looked up "higher mammals" and the explanation is purity vague, so please explain and then maybe I can answer your question.

If you choose to ignore me then I think maybe you should write 100 times, I am a narcissistic know it all using a play on words to ridicule.
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posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:31 PM
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Now you tell me what is he really up to, or has their propaganda campaign come full circle?



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:31 PM
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OK, you just confused me, are you saying there are two types of people, homosexuals, and bigots ? Only a bigot can disagree with homosexuality ?



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:32 PM
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For me there's a watershed between the societal desires of a country to not expose children to homosexuality, or sexuality of any kind for that matter, before a certain age, and heinous crimes against homosexuals. Just because of the former doesn't mean the majority of the population accepts the latter. Crimes against homosexuals like that happen there just as they happen in the US or elsewhere in the world. I think people are thinking the outlook of the society at large combined with those crimes are mutually inclusive. I don't necessarily think they are.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:34 PM
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No, I was using the term bigot as a general descriptor for someone who is prejudice.
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posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:37 PM
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No it is not. I am a man and I love my guy friends dearly. Am I homosexual ? NO! If I have sex with them then YES I am homosexual. Notice that word SEX ?

Homosexual definition:

1

: of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex


2

: of, relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex

www.merriam-webster.com...
Where does it say Loving or being in Love with someone of the same gender ?



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:37 PM
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Oh ok, sorry for the side note



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:38 PM
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Bone75
Homosexuality is the exclusive attraction to members of the same sex and it isn't age sensitive. You just made up that definition to separate yourself from the pedophiles when in essence, they're pretty close to the same thing.

Dead wrong. Psychology 101 (and yes, my degree is in psychology) ...

Homosexual adults are not attracted to children. They are attracted to adults.
Pedophile adults are attracted to children. They are NOT attracted to adults.


The difference is, you were born attracted to men and they were born attracted to kids.

What are you talking about?



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:40 PM
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chr0naut
You are judging a country where this is not necessarily the case and where the government is concerned enough to enact laws to maintain innocence until the children are ready to explore things of themselves.

that's not true. Adults who engage in homosexuality are thrown in jail. So there is no 'until children can explore things themselves'. There is a zero tolerance of homosexual behavior in the country.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:42 PM
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The poster said that homosexuality and pedophilia are the same. They are not.
Pedophiles are adults attracted to children. Homosexual adults are not.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:44 PM
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reply to post by Christian Voice
 


When I posted about love, I was referring to romantic love, not platonic love which for many people (myself included) required to even have sex or to make love. I cannot sleep with someone of the opposite gender because there are no sexual feelings or romantic feelings.

Then if you claim to be a heterosexual, your relationship too isn't based on love either.

Merriam-Webster Dictionary

So I guess straight people don't love only lust.

Now if you look it up on Wikipedia, both Homosexuality and Heterosexuality are defined, respectively, as having romantic and sexual feelings for same/opposite genders.
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