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Putin: Gays at Olympics Must "Leave Children At Peace"

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posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:23 PM
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I beg to differ. You are saying that the only homosexuals are consenting adults ? According to GLAAD and Planned Parenthood, homosexuality is a perfectly acceptable behavior and rushes to the defense of homosexual high school children all of the time. Underage children are coming out as gay everywhere. Number one, those are not consenting adults, number two, I dare not say that none of them have ever had sex with someone over 18.

Homosexuality is defined as such:
erotic activity with another of the same sex
www.merriam-webster.com...

Nowhere is homosexuality defined as sex between consenting adults of the same gender.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:25 PM
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Let me start by saying I think it's cruel and wrong to be mean or harass etc... anyone for something they can not control like Homosexuality.

BUT, there is a Gay agenda and Homosexuality has multiple roots one of them would be the Fetish process that YES can influence children.

1: America via immigration faces population concerns, Russia the largest nation on Earth with a declining population is in danger due to low population, this and this alone determines the political stance in regards to homosexuality, neither govt is "concerned" about human rights, neither cares beyond the priority of it's national status and goals. In America, with floundering cities like Detroit, health care concerns, lack of work, revolution potential a floundering economy and a continual growth pattern via immigration, population control is achievable with support for a "brave new world" like sexuality, waiting until much older to have children (strict laws against under age sex) imprisonment of non-cooperating Males of prime breeding age, encouragement of sexuality, expensive mandated health care for children, divorce laws favoring dissolution of marriage and child support are ALL population control measures..... Russia however is a massive nation with a very low population, unexploited resources, a population in decline and sits bordering India and China the two most populous nations in the world both of who need room to go while Russia is nearly empty, it's only real immigration is Islamic which is a threat, far from "lack" of resources it barely has the people to exploit them... it is of course, a nation NOT on the "Gay Agenda" And ask yourself... would YOU BE if China was next door able to walk across your border out numbering you 15-1 encouraging of a "Non masculine by aggression, non breeding" population?

2: America is absolutely complicit with CAUSATION of a large Homosexual population

Anyone who has ever read Ann Moires "Brain Sex" would be aware that Brain formation not just in skills but sexuality is influenced by levels of Estrogen and Testosterone during the Fetuses development, sexual disruptions of the extreme are being found all over the world in animals particularly America due to chemicals in use, there is no way to ignore that our plastics, Styrofoam and dozens of other chemicals are linked to both High Estrogen and Low T, sperm counts in Males here are 1/5 the level they were during WW2. There is no secret here, the Govt does nothing to slow or stop it ergo the obviousness of "an agenda" is very real... Normal rates of Homosexuality in a population are 1%, our Homosexual population has risen as High as 10%. Do nations and media give attention to causes that represent 1% of the population no... IF it wasn't well known that homosexuals were going to be a larger and larger percentage of the population would there even be a movement to embrace them? Of course not.... But when in larger and larger numbers your male children are being bathed in estrogen Mimics you must start to deal with it as a "social issue" Because the truth is... this is a form of Eugenics, you will in America be living in a larger and larger Homosexual population by design for birth control....

3: A child's mind can fixate on anything sexually, the obviousness of this requires one to be very stupid indeed, Feet, heels, hair color, race, bondage... if you EXPOSE a male child particularly to a sexual stimulus during childhood...fetishes form, YES of course this includes Homosexuality. All one needs to do is look at Porn stats to see the effects of fetish formation. Straight Males who view Trannie porn is a TOP 5, you can Fetish on the Penis... lets NOT BS ourselves

Putin is a smart man, far from homophobia, he knows damn well, media exposure does lead to fetish formation, experimentation and... this is contrary to the population needs of his nation.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:26 PM
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You of all people should know you are fighting a losing battle with me on this one



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:28 PM
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How can someone not control what they choose ? I would hate to know that I have no control over my actions and choices.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:28 PM
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boymonkey74
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So when did you choose to be straight?...you didn't so stop the nonsense that is people choose to be gay.
Nothing at all wrong with being gay at all btw why does it effect you or Putin? it doesn't.
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I choose to be straight all the time.

Some sort of latent and unacknowledged attraction to those of your own gender is not homosexuality. It is the act of sex which 'seals the deal' under law.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:29 PM
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O...M...G AGAIN?????? I honestly don't want to read you people arguing over homosexuality as it relates to science, religion or any other thing other than the topic. IT'S OLD!!!!! AND USELESS!!!!



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:29 PM
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It isn't just sex. There's love involved. That is pretty important. And it is consenting depending on your country's/state/region's age of consent.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:31 PM
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Good job the war against people who judge others on who they choose to love is being won then.
In a generation or two people will look back and wonder why people hated gay people and why they didn't have the same rights just as we do now with people before the African-American Civil Rights Movement.
You kind is dying off...great to see ignorance and bigotry dying off also.
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posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:38 PM
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boymonkey74
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Good job the war against people who judge others on who they choose to love is being won then.
In a generation or two people will look back and wonder why people hated gay people and why they didn't have the same rights just as we do now with people before the African-American Civil Rights Movement.
You kind is dying off...great to see ignorance and bigotry dying off also.
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In previous history, homosexuality was accepted far more freely than it is now.

Those empires fell.

I hardly think that the homophobic statistical norm, after millennia of existence, will die out.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:39 PM
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Christian Voice
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How can someone not control what they choose ? I would hate to know that I have no control over my actions and choices.


If you had been exposed to high Estrogen Mimics in the womb your brain would be wired to like the D

You wouldn't be able to control it. At least not other than to just deny the urge of sex period...which isn't actually "good" for a person, very conflicting and lonely.

You should put aside "opinions" discard macho beliefs based on who you are and what you think. And focus on what's going into your food your water and your air.... because you can no more "control" your "altered Dna" or a reprogrammed mind than you can stop a bullet...



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:43 PM
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Wrabbit2000
Russia has literally passed laws making teaching favorable material about Homosexuality to children a crime.


The gay thing is heavily promoted here while the rest of the world generally frowns upon it. Sure most of everyone on here will think Putin is a backwards nut job for being against it - makes me wonder what people in Russia think of us however.

Personally, I wish someone here would keep these ideas from our kids also.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:44 PM
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It isn't about making more gay people it is just about acceptance.
Of course there will be bigots but in modern society it is now becoming acceptable to be gay, you can't go to jail for it (In civilized society), It is a backwards step what Putin has done..he should be ashamed of himself.
No gay person wants to make everyone gay it is just about having the same rights and being accepted for qwho they are without ridicule.
Anyhow Iam out of this thread before more religious bigots enter here and make me mad lol.
Have a great night all.
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posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:49 PM
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intrepid
O...M...G AGAIN?????? I honestly don't want to read you people arguing over homosexuality as it relates to science, religion or any other thing other than the topic. IT'S OLD!!!!! AND USELESS!!!!


I dont know, I actually think more research should be done to better understand how we work. A central nervous system is such a complicated network, and we have a lot to learn about it. "Attraction" is a big part of how a species continues on generation after generation.

The problem is that its so politically loaded that any conclusions will be met with hostility.

As for Russia, it all seems like it could lead to very dramatic situations. Hopefully it goes well enough.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:50 PM
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intrepid
O...M...G AGAIN?????? I honestly don't want to read you people arguing over homosexuality as it relates to science, religion or any other thing other than the topic. IT'S OLD!!!!! AND USELESS!!!!


Only because people add useless emotion and bias to the subject Intrepid.

It's actually an interesting subject by science standards and an actual issue like GMO's in regards to the use of chemicals and the process of sexual formation is important in psychology.

Of course I agree... that conversation will never be had, speaking to homosexuals or there supporters is like talking to Goku fans in an anime board useless and one sided and likewise speaking to those who are faith based biased against Homosexual behaviors is talking to a wall...

Your basically right, this is the Goku vs Superman debate, everyone is biased. It's a pity tho... there is a real discussion to be had if people would remove emotion.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:53 PM
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penninja

Christian Voice
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How can someone not control what they choose ? I would hate to know that I have no control over my actions and choices.


If you had been exposed to high Estrogen Mimics in the womb your brain would be wired to like the D

You wouldn't be able to control it. At least not other than to just deny the urge of sex period...which isn't actually "good" for a person, very conflicting and lonely.

You should put aside "opinions" discard macho beliefs based on who you are and what you think. And focus on what's going into your food your water and your air.... because you can no more "control" your "altered Dna" or a reprogrammed mind than you can stop a bullet...


Neuroplasticity.

You seem to assume that, once set, humans cannot change their thinking. You're wrong. We can restructure our neuronal structure very rapidly.

Also, structural neuronal changes are not encoded into DNA.

Kevlar will stop a bullet, so will steel, human flesh and bone and wise words of calm and logic. Only Americans think such 'magical' things about their guns. Guns are for the weak and feeble who cannot defend themselves in other ways.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:53 PM
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I agree with you for the places where I'm a citizen (US and UK dual citizenship). But I can't, ethically, demand another society of which I am not a member to change their outlook and sacrifice their right to self determination for the sake of a foreigner, me, just because I disagree with them.

It's a macro scale of what homosexuals are going through right now in the US with roles reversed. Russia being equivalent to the homosexual individual in the US in stating they want the same rights as everyone else including the right to self determination without being ridiculed and or hated by everyone else for being and wanting to be how they are.

You can't say you want for yourself what you would deny an entire country.

If they collectively as a country say "homosexuality has no place in our culture or immediate plans for our society for the foreseeable future for the following reasons", whatever the reasons may be or how ignorant or unfounded they are, you can't deny a society their right to self determination like that but demand it for yourself.
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posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:55 PM
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that was a great answer



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:56 PM
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boymonkey74
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It isn't about making more gay people it is just about acceptance.
Of course there will be bigots but in modern society it is now becoming acceptable to be gay, you can't go to jail for it (In civilized society), It is a backwards step what Putin has done..he should be ashamed of himself.
No gay person wants to make everyone gay it is just about having the same rights and being accepted for qwho they are without ridicule.
Anyhow Iam out of this thread before more religious bigots enter here and make me mad lol.
Have a great night all.
edit on 17-1-2014 by boymonkey74 because: (no reason given)


Women don't want men randomly getting boners either in most normal situations but they do.

Truth, while I would never want a "Islamic" perception of sexuality, America is very over sexualized, bombarded by it in all forms everywhere, waaaay to concerned about it, way to important in daily life. Way over indulged.

To me it's like taking a poop or Eating

Must be a part of our lives, but revolving life around it rather than living in a life where we exercise a degree of control of our "Animal" instincts and needs is not a "higher" or "better" course of action in life, i'd like to think we are here and able to do more than fixate on... SEX, Food and Poo

Sadly if you watch American TV, that's about all most of us spend our minds on...



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 02:58 PM
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intrepid
O...M...G AGAIN?????? I honestly don't want to read you people arguing over homosexuality as it relates to science, religion or any other thing other than the topic. IT'S OLD!!!!! AND USELESS!!!!


No one said anything about science or religion. Putin's choice is in the realm of ethics and I don't see where any of the comments before your post diverted from that path of discussion (well maybe one of the responses to me, but I've gotten used to it so no biggie as far as I'm concerned). I guess you guys are about to make elaboration a no no too huh?



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:02 PM
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chr0naut

penninja

Christian Voice
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How can someone not control what they choose ? I would hate to know that I have no control over my actions and choices.


If you had been exposed to high Estrogen Mimics in the womb your brain would be wired to like the D

You wouldn't be able to control it. At least not other than to just deny the urge of sex period...which isn't actually "good" for a person, very conflicting and lonely.

You should put aside "opinions" discard macho beliefs based on who you are and what you think. And focus on what's going into your food your water and your air.... because you can no more "control" your "altered Dna" or a reprogrammed mind than you can stop a bullet...


Neuroplasticity.

You seem to assume that, once set, humans cannot change their thinking. You're wrong. We can restructure our neuronal structure very rapidly.

Also, structural neuronal changes are not encoded into DNA.

Kevlar will stop a bullet, so will steel, human flesh and bone and wise words of calm and logic. Only Americans think such 'magical' things about their guns. Guns are for the weak and feeble who cannot defend themselves in other ways.



OH GOOD ANSWER

Couldn't agree more... yes there are ways, in reference to DNA I was referring to the potential of Genetically modified foods to cause sterility right now which the roundup add ons are known to do... so also agree on the neuronal changes aspect...

The thing is, most people don't have Kevlar for bullets likewise most people don't even begin to acknowledge the capacity to control their brains

Possible and viable for the public two different things

Particularly in a society where the words of the day are "i'll do what I want" and "your fine exactly as you are" policies of acceptance have their merits without extremes, but no they don't encourage personal change. or Taking Charge of ones self.




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