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gladtobehere
reply to post by network dude
Would someone happen to know how long a contrail should typically last?
asyourworldburned
Lol contrails? No. These chemical sprays are a new thing. X or grid shaped patterns...
asyourworldburned
Lol contrails? No. These chemical sprays are a new thing. X or grid shaped patterns. Seen in the sky over major Cities. I live in nyc and it's beyond fact here. Nobody is arguing if they exist. It's here. I can't stand seeing people say contrail... Just because you haven't seen this for yourself. It is not a coincidence.that unmarked planes are dropping some kind of chemical in a grid pattern..A GRID PATTERN. WTF
NONPOINT21
reply to post by network dude
The problem with your side of debunkers of Chemtrails is you assume that all Chemtrail believers don't understand contrails at all or that some of those lines are in fact actual contrails.
Here's my issue, I've seen two planes in the sky 2 minutes apart on almost identical flight paths, 1 leaves a contrail that stays constant with the plane of about 1 inch in the sky behind the plane in a constant. It dissipates with the plane never leaving more than the constant 1 inch of vapor behind the plane. (i understand 1 inch in the sky if a few miles) It does not stay and leave a road behind it like plane 2 does as it passes by. The 2nd plane leaves a vapor trail (chemtrail/contrail) that never dissipates and go for as far as the eye can see. It then will linger and expand outward to look like cloud cover. Now before you know it your clear blue sky is completely covered by cloud like cover.
NONPOINT21
reply to post by network dude
I would also like to point out the change in culture of pictures that are manufactured or digital IE not real. Why go to the trouble of putting these Chemtrail/Contrail lines in the background. That is the smoking gun IMO. Are they trying to subliminally in-doctrine the next generation to believe its just cloud cover? I think so given all the propaganda used in the media, wouldn't that be a possibility? Ask your parents about these, do they remember lines and lines of contrails in the sky??? 90% won't even know what you are even asking. (this is the part where you copy this comment and reply with the following: more planes nowadays, different fuel, more people. The common answers that always used to allude answers, almost like politicians dancing around questions.)
Wrabbit2000
reply to post by network dude
Just an FYI on this....but methods functionally identical to Chemtrail deployment have been the specific topic of discussion at Climate Change conferences and working groups. One in 2011 held in Lima, Peru actually carrying Geoengineering within the title had Keynote speakers present at some length on injection of particulate matter into both low atmosphere and on up to the stratosphere. Those were ideas..proposals..not describing ongoing operations. However, the linkage between the two is very clear and conspiracy theorists didn't make it, IMO.
Various techniques have been proposed for delivering the aerosol precursor gases (H2S and SO2).[2] The required altitude to enter the stratosphere is the height of the tropopause, which varies from 11 km (6.8 miles/36,000 feet) at the poles to 17 km (11 miles/58,000 feet) at the equator.
Wrabbit2000
reply to post by mrthumpy
Based on functional descriptions of outcome? Well, yes, they'd have to....given that development of, enhancement to and reflection by cloud cover is the whole point of the exercise. Yup... They never once use the word Chemtrail. They simply describe the required process and outcome to define it. It's just another side to the story, not any grand declarations of new material or anything...
After all, the one that comes to mind is 2011. The ideas and open discussion as a part of Geoengineering methods have been in the open for a few years at least. Actually doing vs. talking? Well..... That's the conspiracy side to speculate on and make it an ATS topic, eh?
NONPOINT21
reply to post by network dude
The problem with your side of debunkers of Chemtrails is you assume that all Chemtrail believers don't understand contrails at all or that some of those lines are in fact actual contrails.