this is just a continuation of this thread (NHS a National Treasure?)
and just so as
you know I have alterted the mods to inform them as such. This thread is just you doing what you done on your last thread pretty much on the same
topic, chucking out bits of information you do not seem to comprehend to rubbish the NHS and make us nurses look like a bunch of monsters.
I find it very telling that it seems you actually wrote this thread at first on a document that you did not properly comprehend and made a mistake so
you changed it. Well, I can give you credit for admiring to being wrong but its just unfortunate you didn't just request mods to close the thread.
Because just like your other thread on this very same topic its utter tripe.
Lets start with your first bit about the RCN publishing guidelines for nurses saying "sorry.
You are doing the same as what you done before, you are taking a statement like this and twisting it to fit your agenda we nurses are bad at our jobs.
I say sorry at least once a shift, during nurse training I can recall having lectures on costumer service and dealing with complaints, then we have a
standard training package for NHS staff in our trust for dealing with complaints. Hell our charge nurse has a drawer full of complaints that have been
gathered over the years.
The RCN deciding to publish guidelines is just them doing what they do, it does not mean that we either dont say sorry or can not handle complaints.
What you will probably find if you dig deeper into this is that there have been a couple of cases where the RCN has had to defend a nurse accused of
not apologizing appropriately. So to clear things up they are going to publish guidelines for us to follow to make sure its all nice and clear.
They are not doing it because we are a "national disgrace".
For those with no experience of nursing as a career, like myself.....
Just so as you know, its quite obvious from reading your posts that you dont work as a Nurse.
Trouble is, last time I experienced an NHS hospital, Monday when taking a disabled pensioner to an outpatient appointment I observed the following;
Soiled linen and what appeared to be hospital coveralls in plastic bags, unsecured and spilling out, loaded onto roller cages and being handled by an
agency worker driving an NHS trust vehicle who was without any protective clothing or disposable gloves. How do I know! because I took the trouble to
speak to the guy and saw with my own eyes the soiled stuff in unsecured bags, some of which were red bags mixed with other yellow or white bags. Off
goes the lorry to the laundry and guess what, back comes the clean stuff on the same roller cages handled by the same guy.
And now i am going to do something i really dont like
I am going to accuse you of fibbing, I think you might be stretching the truth on this one and let me explain why.
Firstly its to do with how laundry is managed in hospitals, most i have worked in have a on-site laundrette so no man in a white van, granted yours
could be different but let me tell you how it is for us. This is for all of NHS Scotland and from what i can pick up most of the rest of the UK.
Soiled linen is put in these horrible pink dissoluble bags, I hate them because if you have some one how has peed the bed you need about three of
the things because the dissolve. Anyway what happens is Soiled linen goes in one fabric bag (orange or red) and clean stuff goes in another bag (white
or green) they get tied off and a nice porter comes and collects them putting them into nice big bins.
But this is where i think your stretching the truth.
the area's for laundry would be in area's away form patients and the public, its not exactly going to be next to the wards. So for you to have spoke
to this guy in the first place i find hard to believe. Then the fact that you spoke to him (just like the paramedic manager
i find that one tough
to believe. but what i find really tough to believe is that you waited until he came back, you really done that, you stood about and waited for him to
No you didn't.
I sure as heck know where some of the bugs/contamination is coming from. Where the heck are your cleanliness standards in the NHS? I have previously
posted about staff wearing hospital garb to and from work
Well no you dont.
You seem to think that Nurses going into work in uniform is a infection contorl issue.
its a professional image issue above all.
There is no difference in infection risk between me driving into work in my uniform (which i have to was at home anyway) and spending a day caring for
your dear old mum and you walking in of the street to go visit her.
I personally dont go into work in my uniform but i can sympathize at times with those who do.
the arrogance of consultants who ignore basic hand cleaning
I know that this happens, I do hand washing audits and the doctors are always the worst of the bunch so i am not denying but i remember you brought
this up in your last thread on the very same issue. Now yes this consultant was most probably just heading off for his tea or to another patient even
so he should be washing his hands. But at the same time for all you know he could have been rushing off to a crash call, hand washing is not all that
important in those kind of situations.
All i am saying is that you keep judging us when you dont know the job.
its quite annoying.