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Pope Francis Cleans House at Vatican Bank With New Cardinals As Advisor

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posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 04:41 PM
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VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis has made another move to clean house at the troubled Vatican bank, naming a new roster of cardinal advisers to replace ones who had been confirmed just last year...

...Francis on Tuesday named four others to round out the commission, including his hand-picked secretary of state, Cardinal-elect Pietro Parolin and his close friend, Cardinal Santos Abril y Castello.

Pope Francis Cleans House at Vatican Bank With New Cardinals As Advisor

Pope Francis continues to impress me.

No word in any of the articles I've seen as to why these cardinals were released but it would seem to me you do not remove four fifths of the bank without good cause.

I find it equally as interesting that he has placed two people very close to himself in their place. That indicates to me that the Pontiff places high value on these positions; as always, follow the money.


Cheers!




posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 04:48 PM
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And that is what scares me...so many people that are non-Roman Catholic or even Christian for that matter are seemingly drawn to this guy. Supposedly, Malachy said he was the last pope before the Holy Roman Catholic Church would be no more...
But does that mean he is just going to reform and reinvent it, or does it mean something more sinister in nature? After all, the Christian bible has prophecies saying that people from all over the world would come to worship one who would seat himself upon the temple mount.
I'm not saying I believe or that I don't...just be careful what you wish for...


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posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 05:01 PM
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the owlbear
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But does that mean he is just going to reform and reinvent it, or does it mean something more sinister in nature?


I suppose only time will tell, but until then I can only judge the man on his actions.

Everything i have seen of Francis in his short papacy, from washing the feet of the lepur, to sneaking out of the Vatican to feed the homeless makes him look like the real deal to me. It is about time the church has a leader more interested in following the teachings and examples of Christ than in perpetuating a massive wealthy bureaucracy that claims to guard the only path to God.
edit on 1/15/14 by soulshn because: typing on mobile



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 05:11 PM
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I'm of the opinion that any positive change is good change.

I see a lot of positive change with this guy, appearances may be deceiving and all but I'm liking the fruit this guy is producing.

Cheers thank for showing me this article.



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 05:32 PM
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One can hope for the best...
And I am for every reason you listed and I hope that is why the Church will be no more. Because it doesn't need an authoritative crazy rich role in the affairs of humans or any other sentient beings for that matter.



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 05:49 PM
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Coming from a long generational line of catholic haters and Orangemen, it's nice that finally, that church found one non-corrupt (I hope) among it's membership to lead it's sheep.
As of late the catholic church (not Christians or Christianity) has been a scourge on humanity. With the banking scandals, pedophile priests and corrupt popes I was hoping the demise of that church was nigh. Maybe the new pope can save his church without continuing to claim "people are not perfect" defence.



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 05:54 PM
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the owlbear
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One can hope for the best...
And I am for every reason you listed and I hope that is why the Church will be no more. Because it doesn't need an authoritative crazy rich role in the affairs of humans or any other sentient beings for that matter.



Interesting angle that I had not considered, thanks!




posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 05:57 PM
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Looks like we will be watching another pope burial soon. They would have let him get away with allot of reform but he is messing with their money now. It won't be long. Man the history of the Vatican is fascinating. But it is also vicious and brutal. The crazy show on showtime, or one of them, is right on target. The Vatican wealth is the largest is the world. No one even knows how vast it is. It is a Web within a Web wrapped in an enigma.

We Have no accurate count at the number of deaths in the name of the church through out history. One thing is certain, power and corruption are rampant at the Vatican. I commend him for challenging the status quote. He is on dangerous ground however.

Messing with the money will bring the shady elements out of the shadows. I have hope he will succeed.

The Bot



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 05:58 PM
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I am not Catholic, but so far I like this Pope...



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 06:27 PM
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Pope Francis continues to impress me.


Its a move in the right direction but to impress me he has to tell us exactly what they did AND prosecute them if they broke any laws.

A whitewash is not justice and is no deterrent.



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 06:29 PM
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I think it's all an act. When the fake stream media is hyping somebody, it's prob a scam.



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 08:59 PM
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So with the new people in place at the bank, let's see if there are changes in where the money is spent. I, too, have disliked the Catholic Church and the principles it has lived by during the priest ped scandal. And I have not been supportive of the popes, at least the popes they've given society since John 23rd died. But yes, Francis seems "different" in some interesting ways. I hope he makes many more changes and guides his church onto new roads, paving some principled path for future popes to follow. We can only hope that there has been a fresh wind blowing in the catholic church, and that this guy is what he seems.
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posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 09:57 PM
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Elton
I am not Catholic, but so far I like this Pope...



Strictly speaking, as far as the Pope is to be concerned, everyone is Catholic.



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 10:02 PM
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Thia is an interesting AP piece, and is worth noting who publishes such articles. The most significant aspect of this is yet to come to light. Will there be a more "open" Vatican bank? Exactly why does it mean to 'clean house' in this sense? If the policies remain unchanged, and all that changes are her "leaders" what difference will any of this make? If the policies are to change, which will they be? It is after all a private bank, in a nation state.



posted on Jan, 16 2014 @ 02:43 AM
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I suspect he is the caliber of man that if faced with his own extinction due to the corrupt power mongering of others in the organization would expose and disband the organization with his last (hopefully televised) breath.

Who knows? Maybe the catholic church gets a happy ending



posted on Jan, 16 2014 @ 11:59 AM
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Maxmars
Thia is an interesting AP piece, and is worth noting who publishes such articles. The most significant aspect of this is yet to come to light.


A very good point and i agree 100% that there must be some very serious machinations going on that we are not privy to. Lets not forget that just under a year ago JP Morgan, whom i think most of us here would agree has some very permanent seats at some very powerful tables, abruptly closed their accounts at the Vatican Bank.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Pure speculation and wishful thinking on my part, but perhaps they knew the secrets of the most secretive bank were about to see the light of day and they wanted no part of it?


Maxmars
Will there be a more "open" Vatican bank? Exactly why does it mean to 'clean house' in this sense? If the policies remain unchanged, and all that changes are her "leaders" what difference will any of this make? If the policies are to change, which will they be? It is after all a private bank, in a nation state.


What gives me hope here is the text from the article that i highlighted in the OP:


Francis on Tuesday named four others to round out the commission, including his hand-picked secretary of state, Cardinal-elect Pietro Parolin and his close friend, Cardinal Santos Abril y Castello.


If Pope Francis is a man of the kind of character i think/hope/pray that he is it is very encouraging to see that he is putting people close to him into these positions. I can only hope that these men share the convictions and intentions that i believe the Pope to have.


asciikewl
Who knows? Maybe the catholic church gets a happy ending


Here is to hoping and praying!



posted on Jan, 16 2014 @ 11:50 PM
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The only mistake the pope has made so far is suggest that people take other people's means of production away from them without permission when he said there should be less capitalism. Stealing is wrong but the pope is advocating for it. Other than that, I like him. Using violence is supposed to be a last resort, not a first impulse. The last vestiges of capitalism died with Obamacare, so I think we need to focus on the socialist economic system we have now and not the one we had. Its kind of like Obama blaming Bush for everything.



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 04:49 AM
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I'm also amazed what this man achieved in his short ruling period..
And if this is working out well , then they should make him head of the worldbank an IMF



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 08:45 AM
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I have always felt that the Italian mafia would just infiltrate the vatican and Vatican bank to accsess the money versus crime. Between the history of the mafia, masons in Italy it's not far fetched to think that is going on. I just hope he has got ride of enough people to secure their funds.

Can anyone explain the symbology of the Vatican banker with bricks in his pockets?

Wonder if p2 lodge has regrouped



posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 08:53 AM
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I am not religious in any way, in that sense... though over the years I have slowly become a little more spiritual and feel connected to the universe. But as far as the dogmatic sheltered religions go, I have nothing to do with. Again, at the same time I will not hate on anyone who dose... as long as they do not try to force it upon me.

With that being said, this new pope Francis I have much respect and admiration for. If he is able to transform even just a small portion of his followers to what he preaches, that will be a huge difference in the current world we live in.



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