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What is causing them; the environment? If so how would a cell decide for itself to mutate as its living in a microcosm not even knowing the body/brain thats in charge (its just doing its thing, not even dim awareness here of its actual function in the body host or what it describes, liver cell? heart cell? If they are not deliberate and become out of control cancer cells that will randomly kill its host body; what is that called, insanity or revolt of one cell in trillions?
In just 3 million years we just happened to become intellectual giants; rulers of this land? Do you tell your body to behave itself on a regular basis "Hey Im here the brain trust as in charge, dont go off partying and mutate out of control to the detriment of the whole' as you cant be charged with murder or pay the burial costs.
I take it as a Darwinist you believe all of the life forms on this planet just appeared and managed to get along or create such sophisticated eco/biosystems that they just happened to survive in. More of these specie died out because they were essentially experiments by others that failed; this was and still is a laboratory. The human is next on this ecological chopping block.
How does flora and fauna communicate its intentions to each other to enable conscious decision making (of creating a detriment or success I get this its call PROFITABILITY). This plant disapears so this animal dies because it was its food source. I dont see this happening at all, its too unreasonable to think an entire system will accidently spring into being by sheer accidents of mutation. Im not understanding why two idealogical thought forms, created by the human: Evolution and Creationism (dislike these terms) cannot have worked together. We were messed with, and we also evolved. If you are the mind that the universe is just information putting itself together, organizing itself 1s and 0s for the profit/success of the system this would make better sense.edit on 16-1-2014 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)
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The fish issue in evolution is a problem because all of the fish fossils look like.....well.....fish. There is no evidence of any sort of evolution within this specie. Also, like you said....if there was evolution....then it would be into another like/kind specie....not from a fish to an air breathing human. But I will get attacked for even pointing this small thing out.
On this note too....and sorry because it is a bit off topic but.....as far as carbon dating goes.....it is my understanding that we only have equipment that can read out to about 50,000 years. Science further tells us that diamonds are some of the oldest substance on earth but we can still read c-14 in them. This means they are 50,000 years or younger.
Back to the subject.....carbon dating fossils reveals c-14 levels as well.....which again....our instruments can only read back to 50,000 years and this is questionable because we have to us c-12 levels to calculate the c-14 levels as c-12 levels are constant but scientists have to essentially guess at how much c-12 was in the environment at that time to then get a good read on the c-14.
Having said all that.....if we can read any c-14.....it is 50,000 years or younger. If we can't read any c-14 then we have no idea how old it is......but we always find c-14.
Scientists can use different chemicals for absolute dating:
The best-known absolute dating technique is carbon-14 dating, which archaeologists prefer to use. However, the half-life of carbon-14 is only 5730 years, so the method cannot be used for materials older than about 70,000 years.
Radiometric dating involves the use of isotope series, such as rubidium/strontium, thorium/lead, potassium/argon, argon/argon, or uranium/lead, all of which have very long half-lives, ranging from 0.7 to 48.6 billion years. Subtle differences in the relative proportions of the two isotopes can give good dates for rocks of any age.
I'm not a Darwinist friend, I'm a Christian that understands but doesn't necessarily support evolution. I have my own theories on the matter, but that is beside the point and irrelevant to the OP.
The question should be, "Did intelligence leave the oceans?" Look at what WE deem intelligent. Us #1. Dolphins #2. We could go on but really, this is OUR scale. Who says WE are right? Do OUR tests confirm anything? Human egoism.
The oldest living things on this planet live underwater. I know age doesn't equate to intelligence but as all species evolve/adapt don't you think these "old" species have learned a thing or 2? Like avoiding humans? Hell maybe they kicked us out of the ocean. I don't recall who said this about aliens but it made sense. "The proof of alien intelligence is that they haven't tried to contact us." Maybe our oceanic brethren got that millions of years ago.
Our world is 2/3's covered in water. Life as we know it adapts to the environment surrounding it. So why did we evolve and decide to habitat just 1/3 of our world?
@ everyone that is pushing creationism,wouldnt youre takes on how it all began mean the entirety of the earth is insestuios and therefore hellbound...
Roger that.....I understand that you think scientists that also happen to be Christians have no credibility. I know you trust ALL scientists and ALL "science" because they are infallible .... unless of course they also happen to believe in God. I am just saying that I don't agree with you.....which is what we do here at ATS. Thanks for chatting and have a good day man.
VHBWhat is causing them; the environment? If so how would a cell decide for itself to mutate as its living in a microcosm not even knowing the body/brain thats in charge (its just doing its thing, not even dim awareness here of its actual function in the body host or what it describes, liver cell? heart cell? If they are not deliberate and become out of control cancer cells that will randomly kill its host body; what is that called, insanity or revolt of one cell in trillions?
Agree2DisagreeGenetic mutations occur various ways....none of which are deliberate. The two most common reasons for genetic mutations are that the (1)DNA fails to copy accurately or (2)external influences such as radiation.