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NEWS: Porn Addiction: Congress Warned

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posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 04:28 PM
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Who conducted this study?:


Internet pornography is the new crack coc aine, leading to addiction, misogyny, pedophilia, boob jobs and erectile dysfunction, according to clinicians and researchers testifying before a Senate committee Thursday.


People weren't misogynistic or pediphiles or had ED before the internet? News to me. This sounds like research conducted with an agenda plain and simple.

But more importantly - where is the Republican cry of "personal responsibility"? Hmmm. Which by the way I agree with. IMO there is no addiction - only lack of resolve.

This is nothing more than the goal of censorship under the guise of public health.


B.

[edit on 11/21/04 by Bleys]




posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 04:37 PM
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the bible does not agree with spilling the seed outside the womb.


I don't think that's accurate. I'm not aware of anything in the Bible that designates it a sin to spill "the seed" outside the vagina (the path to the womb).



posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 04:43 PM
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I think groups against any type of pronography or other sins of the flesh wants to take control of the internet and start a campaing to erradicate any not only internet porn but any thing that is not bible good too.


And by the way I care less who masturbate or not, looking in the internet.


Now if you are a bible follower well you should read your users manual because you may be sining


[edit on 21-11-2004 by marg6043]



posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 05:08 PM
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Wow, this is extremely dumb and just irritates me to NO end! I've been sitting here for like 30 min trying to figure out where to even begin to express and explain my views and hatred of this subject and its many facets of extreme stupidity.
I guess I'll start with my feelings for our government that just keeps getting more ridiculous and more corrupt with every passing minute. Why is congress and the U.S. government trying to legislate morality and values? Dont we have more pressing matters in this country that need fixing? Is pornography and sexuality and peoples' liking to partake in an activity that makes them feel good, really threatening to the point that the government needs to butt in to save our once great nation from certain doom at the hands of all us evil sinners that like to actually enjoy life and all it has to offer. I dont think so. This country is supposed to be the land of the free. An individuals persuit of happiness is supposed to be a major part of why this nation was started. Freedom to do as you please as long as it does not infringe upon the Freedom's of others. Things that make me feel good either physically, mentally or spiritually make me happy and if I choose to participate in an activity is my business and as long as I'm not harming others, the government should not and more than likely illegally infringe upon my rights by passing a law that tries to force another's oppinion's, value systems or moral values of what should and should not make one feel good and what any single or group of people thinks is right or wrong , down my throat. This country was supposedly founded on an INDIVIDUAL's rights. Well not every INDIVIDUAL feels the same way about a certain subject. sure people tend follow the popular views of the times which is fine as long as they arent trying to say that there way is the only way and any free thinkers or non conforming individuals are evil and anything other than the popular view at the time is "bad" and therefore should be outlawed. Personally I enjoy pornography a great deal. I enjoy the use of drugs from time to time. I think masterbation is one of lifes greatest things and do it regularly. I think nudity and sexuality are the most natural and beautiful parts humanity. Why are these things that make me feel so great so "BAD". does porn make you a rapist or make you objectify women? NO. I have been watching and reading any porn I could since I found dads stash at age 5. I have never even considered raping a woman and its my oppinion that women are the Only thing that makes me even begin to believe the possibilty of a GOD and I treat them as I my self like to be treated. KINDLY< RESPECTfully and considerate of ones person. not like an object for my "dirty" use. why is allmost all nudity and sexuality considered to be private, shameful and even dirty or unnatural? We are all humans and we all have the same body parts and biological processes. why should one be ashamed of what they cant change? why is it considered abhorent for children to see nudity or sexual things. Is sex not natural? Is sex not something that every human experiences in life. sex is great in so many ways that its a shame to not embrace the beauty of it and teach children that its natural and nothing to be ashamed of . nudity and sex are NOt DIRTY things. Just because of our overwhelminlgy christian society tends to force the morals and values of their largely self-serving and sometimes corrupt and controlling religion on us? thats the biggest problem this world will problably end because of. if everyone just opened thier minds and excepted others with respect rather than demonizing those that dont share like views and try to scare them into joining you're "righteous" religions, then this world could actually see peace. but it will never happen because I like to take some speed every now and then and I like to masturbate while watching nude humans have evil dirty sex, and I like to think for myself and not close my mind to something that might make my definition of happiness and the meaning of life, go to a far greater level than I ever dreamed possible. so you christians and religious sheep that cant think for yourselves might have a real reason to hate us evil extacy taking orgy goers. we ARE evil, and we ARE trying to destroy the world, with our evil sonic orgasm moans!!!!
hide your kids, wives, pets and drugs. people that enjoy life could take it all away !!!! how? by showing people that free thinking is ok and that happiness and life experiences are what makes the life such a wonderful mystery to be explored in any way they chose for themselves. Any group or God that tries to frighten or shame you into conforming should be scared of us free spirits because we chose to enjoy life by having many different experiences. We see fear, pain, anger, fun, happiness and all the other great and not so great emotions as natural experiences that should be nothing more than part of this thing we love called life. we embrace the unknown, you fear it and try to come up with rules to live your life by hoping that when you die all your unhappiness from living your life in controlled fear will some how be seen as a sacrifice by some supreme being. And then he will let you in to the land of no fear and you will finally be happy. The way I see it is that I lved life with out being scared and did my best to experience all that I was able to in life whether it made me happy or angry or sad, it was still part of this wonder of life. and if anything is after death I will deal with in the same openminded free spirited way i always have.



posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 05:24 PM
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Heil Herr Bush!

The Christian NAZIs are starting to make thier moves.

Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!

Der Furer ist marching.

Twisted Science, parading as the truth.
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posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 05:33 PM
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basically what it all comes down to is them trying fabricate reasons for the problems in our country today that places blame on anything other than an individuals lack of self controll and societies long growing attitude of "I want it all and I want it now no matter what it takes to get it." Addiction is a disease of the weak minded. lack of self control is also an affliction of the weak minded. Drugs of whatever kind used in moderation and with a little self control can enhance ones life in lots of possitive ways. society has just become so used to someone else that is supposedly, the know all AUTHORITY, like government or the popular media today, telling them how to think. It has made a society of mostly weak,closed minded , sheep that do as they are told. Any thing that threatens to open someones mind to freethinking, like drugs and sex, is a threat to thier control over society therefore must be made illegal or be viewed as shameful. you poor sheep, Wake up!



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 05:30 AM
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UPDATE:

It seems as if everything is the New "New Heroin". However, porn does give the user the most efficient result. Masturbation and the release of sperm which...well, just read on





AlterNet: the mix in the message
www.alternet.org...
Moreover, Satinover told Sen. Sam Brownback's committee, "Pornography really does, unlike other addictions, biologically cause direct release of the most perfect addictive substance," he said. "That is, it causes masturbation, which causes release of the naturally occurring opioids. It does what heroin can't do, in effect."

So it's worse than heroin.

Does it take a genius to spot that quad bikes are the new coc aine? Available at hideous expense (pounds 5,000-plus) to grown-up chaps with too much money, lots of rolling acres and a desire for chemical-free thrills, they're four-wheel, all-terrain death traps for the cocky, plastered and terminally unwary.

The above examples notwithstanding, heroin is still the analogical drug of choice for classifiers of public and private vice. When it comes to being the New Heroin, heroin, not surprisingly, remains the champ. A Lexis search for "the new heroin," brings back 74 returns over the last two years, compared to just seven for "the new crack coc aine." You might say that heroin "is the new crack coc aine" of overly enthusiastic drug war comparisons.



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 06:03 AM
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I don't think there's anything wrong with porn featuring consenting adults which is available to adults only.

I'm also always amused by the US double standard on this - you can buy pretty hardcore stuff 'off the shelf' in the US (certainly much harder than is legally available in the UK) but at the same time the main tv networks over there aren't allowed to show so much as a nipple even after the 9pm watershed. Bizarre.

Internet porn can never be controlled so there's no point in trying. In the unlikely event that a Western government was to close down all porn providers in their country, there will always be stacks of offshore porn sites catering for every conceivable taste.

The only way to stop people from accessing this material would be to completely regulate and nationalise all ISPs so that all traffic had to pass through a sort of government-controlled national firewall which blocked access to inappropriate sex sites (a la China). I can't see this ever happening in the US, although it could conceivably occur in the UK where personal freedom/civil rights is much less of an issue.

In the UK, it is actually illegal to posess, download or distribute any hardcore material (i.e anything featuring an erect penis) but, in reality, prosecutors only really charge people for the following categories of porn:

* sexual acts with children
* sexual assaults upon children
* portrayal of incest
* buggery with an animal
* rape
* drug taking
* flagellation
* torture with instruments
* bondage (especially where gags are used)
* dismemberment or graphic mutilation
* cannibalism
* activities involving perversion or degradation (such as drinking urine or smearing excreta on a person's body)

All these are punishable by a hefty fine and/or a jail sentence.

In actual reality, though, resource-starved LEA only really focus on the first two items on the list (and the third if it involves minors).

They probably catch and prosecute a couple of hundred downloaders a year but don't have the resources to do more. In reality, the problem is of course much wider and they are barely scratching the surface.

Other than the recent high-profile Operation Ore investigation, most prosecutions come as a result of offenders being reported by spouses/work colleagues who stumble on pedophilic materials on computers (i.e. they are caught by accident rather than design).



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by slank
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Heil Herr Bush!

The Christian NAZIs are starting to make thier moves.

Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!

Der Furer ist marching.

Twisted Science, parading as the truth.
.


This fall into the catgory of of "Two Birds with one Stone".

- Social Conservatives pick easy tagets. Christian Fundamentalists seek to crucify those targets. It's plain and simple on one level: throwing them a bone for their rabid support

- On the second level, the only real reporting that Americans have accesss to is via online news portals, mostly from other countries with just a few here in the States.
There's not a whisper being reported on the primetime news media about re-counts, voter kiosk malfunctions, ....nothing.
What better way to cement control that to cut off the last remaining information link?



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 07:34 AM
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The dangers of masturbation eh?

Well the REAL danger is that the person involved in the lewd sex act (journalist speake there) is not making new citizens to send to their untimely foreign deaths. How can the US carry on invading the 3rd world without fresh meat?



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 08:05 AM
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Corinthas,

Oh we have a solution!

We'll soon start drafting illegal immigrants.

Yeah, just as soon as they are located by using their newly issued U.S. driver's licenses

[edit on 12/14/2004 by bodebliss]



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 08:26 AM
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I would contribute qualitatively to this thread as I have done extensive research on the effects of online porn on human sexuality, but I feel it would be a waste of my time as it will only result in (1) flaming of any research by anybody; (2) the Government will alwys be perceived as trying to harm the innocent citizens, no matter what the topic; and (3) I would be speaking to people who would feel compelled to play devil's advocate.

I do believe it may be time where ignorance is actually denied, and that understanding of issues are addressed rather than argued for the sake of points or to have a say about every topic.

The world sits on the edge of a precipice and nobody even cares - issues of major concern are among others:
1) The Ritalin crisis;
2) The effects of the internet on socialization and sexuality; and
3) The effects of cell phones on once again socialization and mental and physical health



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 08:34 AM
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MORE PORN......LESS LEGISLATION.....Maybe someone can tell me how much money the Government makes off PORN every year TAX wise THEN tell me they will make porn illegal Decrease in sexual satisfaction? Hell For some guys that gotta go home to a Butt ugly Ol Lady (not me but some guys) PORN is the only thing that lets the, have sex with there wives



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 08:41 AM
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I always find it funny...these people who support their popn....
I hear it all the time...a little innocent porn. There is no innocent porn, sure you have some of it that is by consenting adults, but by supporting this small amount of the industry, you are also supporting the drugging, kidnappings, child abuse...the whole thing...there is no separating it....the thing that is most upsetting, is that these people don't care, won't even think about it, as long as they get their little jollies it doesn't matter if children get snatched, teens drugged, woman abused.....all that matter is their own selfish self pleasure..



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by Truth_Hunter_1976
MORE PORN......LESS LEGISLATION.....Maybe someone can tell me how much money the Government makes off PORN every year TAX wise THEN tell me they will make porn illegal Decrease in sexual satisfaction? Hell For some guys that gotta go home to a Butt ugly Ol Lady (not me but some guys) PORN is the only thing that lets the, have sex with there wives


Sometimes all they need is a little rope ...

You prove exactly the point made in the initial post in this thread. The need for a woman to be attractive for her husband to want to have sex with, no mention is made of love, its just about sex and sex appeal. Yours has to rate as one of the most sexist posts ever on ATS. If this had related to race you probably would be banned, but sexism is a much more acceptable discrimination. No wonder so many women suffer from body dysmorphic disorder.

Some times some of the posts on threads like this make me feel like I am watching an episode of Beavis and Butthead without the humor.

LadyV: you are so right.

[edit on 14-12-2004 by Mynaeris]



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by Mynaeris
No wonder so many women suffer from body dysmorphic disorder.


One of my sons manages an A & W / Long John Silvers..there is 17year old little girl working there making herself sick (literally) from over dosing on TrimSpa...becuas she watched some show and all the "models" said they use it...this girl is already a bone but says she has to look like the models or guys won't like you...this a very attractive little girl that is painfully thin already......very sad



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by LadyV
there is no separating it


Then you are generalising.

How can you tar those that look at porn of consenting adults with the same brush as paedophiles, I know you didn't say that directly, but it's pretty much what you are inferring?

You say some are consenting, well I would tend to place it more like the majority, maybe you neglected to say "IMO". Unless you are saying that there are as many women as men contibuting to these abuses?

Love and sex are two very different aspects of a relationship, indeed a relationship is seldom needed for the sexual part, but when combined with love, is enhanced tremendously.

But there again we are not all oil paintings and therefore don't have men or women falling at our feet. So look for other sources to relieve the sexual frustration that comes with being single.

Any form of child abuse sickens me, be it sexual, verbal, physical or psychlogical.

Could I make the assumption that you also believe marijauna is the same as crack or smack?

Please use "IMO"

[edit on 14-12-2004 by Koka]



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by Koka

Originally posted by LadyV
there is no separating it


Then you are generalising.

How can you tar those that look at porn of consenting adults with the same brush as paedophiles, I know you didn't say that directly, but it's pretty much what you are inferring?


Because the industry is all tied together...do your research.....check who owns these sites and businesses....they are all mingled together. Many who own the supposedly "innocent" porn sites, also own the others....there is no one that just owns consenting adult porn...their too greedy for that...people will always justify and believe what they want to, to ease their conscience....they don't want to face the fact that they are supporting all the horror of the underground porn industry...I know this first hand so those of you that want to hide your head in the sand...go right ahead and do so....people will always fight this because they want to get their jollies and still think it's all innocent fun.....

Sleep well...



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by Mynaeris

Originally posted by Truth_Hunter_1976
MORE PORN......LESS LEGISLATION.....Maybe someone can tell me how much money the Government makes off PORN every year TAX wise THEN tell me they will make porn illegal Decrease in sexual satisfaction? Hell For some guys that gotta go home to a Butt ugly Ol Lady (not me but some guys) PORN is the only thing that lets the, have sex with there wives


Sometimes all they need is a little rope ...

You prove exactly the point made in the initial post in this thread. The need for a woman to be attractive for her husband to want to have sex with, no mention is made of love, its just about sex and sex appeal. Yours has to rate as one of the most sexist posts ever on ATS. If this had related to race you probably would be banned, but sexism is a much more acceptable discrimination. No wonder so many women suffer from body dysmorphic disorder.

Some times some of the posts on threads like this make me feel like I am watching an episode of Beavis and Butthead without the humor.

LadyV: you are so right.

[edit on 14-12-2004 by Mynaeris]


My apologies then to all the Butt Ugly ol ladies out there who may have taken offense to my last post,.**ugh** porn is not really a big deal if its LEGAL above board stuff.but if you researched even a little you would realize how big a part the porn industry is to our GNP

[edit on 14-12-2004 by Truth_Hunter_1976]



posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by LadyV
One of my sons manages an A & W / Long John Silvers..there is 17year old little girl working there making herself sick (literally) from over dosing on TrimSpa...becuas she watched some show and all the "models" said they use it...this girl is already a bone but says she has to look like the models or guys won't like you...this a very attractive little girl that is painfully thin already......very sad


That is sad, but the ideas she has about being attractive has nothing to do with the porn industry and everything to do with media sensationalism and the portrayal of the female form. There are hundreds of girly magazines coming out weekly with airbrushed skeletal models portrayed on the front covers. These mainstream consumer magazines have a far greater detremental effect on the mind of an adolescent than any other source (IMO).

Or are the women on these magazines forced into the industry in the same mainer that your previous sweeping statement claimed?

I won't deny that there are those who lack a conscience when working in the porn industry and whos morals and ethics are close to non existent, but your statements ARE generalised.

You're right I have done no research, so ask that you please supply yours for scrutiny.

...and DO NOT QUESTION MY MORALS or ETHICS based on your inability to separate one issue from another.



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