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The New French-Iraq Situation

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posted on Nov, 20 2004 @ 10:24 PM
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France's former colonized nation, Ivory Coast, is set to risist French forces after last weeks wave of violence when the tiny Ivorian Air Force assalted a French military camp, killing nine troops and an American aid worker.
Currenly, French forces deployed an additional 3,000 troops to aid the small number of French troops in the area, to quikly seize control. In Abidjan, chanting angry mobs are set to risist French forces to protect threir influential leader, Laurent Gbagbo, by all means necessary. In the mean time, French troops are needed to engage urban warfare against anti-French-Ivorians who oppose them by force. Officials say, "What the U.S. needs in Fallujah, is what the French need in Ivory."

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Do you think this is another war on Iraq?




posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 03:14 AM
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The French are as neocolonist as the Bush government, they condemned the u.s action in iraq primarely because of losing their own economic interests overthere.

Another reason: Oilpeak.

There is enough oil in the world to last another 100 years, but demand is growing so much we have trouble pumping it up fast enough, so prices
skyrocket.

Dick Cheney notet in a report several years ago that Africa must ramp up production with 15-25% in 10 years. In order to "secure" this, u.s.a millitary suport is given to the Pan-Sahel pact: Mali, Niger, Tsjad and Mauretania

We already see the exploration of new oil fields in Gabon and Kenia etc, since the oilflow from the middle-east is a bit troublesome lately....

Also Europe doesn't want to left behind and is investing again in the "forgotten continent" Africa and hence also French millitary interventions.

In the near future Africa will be the scene of numerous resourcewars, where america and Europe compete, all wrapped up in a semi religious black muslims against black christian cover.



posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 06:34 AM
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posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 12:01 PM
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France certainly and seemingly has there hands literally full in the Ivory Coast. Allegations are being leveled at the French troops acting within the Ivory Coast. The Ivorian Government has petitioned the International Court of Justice over several alledged cases of French atrocities:
One reported by the BBC:


France has scornfully rejected a claim by Ivory Coast's president and its top Roman Catholic cleric that French troops beheaded young protesters there.

France scorns beheading claim

And another, by the Australian Braodcasting Company. Video's connected to this are located here: EDIT: Please be warned, some may find these offensive or distasteful.
videos
They would be these and the last two are the preferred:
frenchsnipersvideo1.mpg
frenchsnipersvideo2.mpg
frenchsoldiershootingcivilians1.mpg
frenchsoldiersshootingcivilians2.mpg


From the abc.net article:


The Government of the Ivory Coast is planning to take legal action against French troops accused of shooting civilians.

The Ivorian Government is taking its case to the International Court of Justice.

Ivory Coast accuses France of shooting civilians



seekerof

[edit on 21-11-2004 by Seekerof]



posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
Ivory Coast accuses France of shooting civilians

Strange, I thought only Americans did that, based on my scholarly research here on ATS. The idea that another country might also do this is unthinkable! Shocking, I say!

I'm sure we will now be treated to all sorts of anti-France propaganda for their "war crimes", "French hegemony" and arrogant, cowboy attitude.

No doubt the streets will be filled with anti-war protestors outraged at France's "blood for ivory" policy, while rumors of a new military draft sweep through France.

Of course, this could have all been avoided if France had only gone to the U.N. and let it resolve the situation.




[edit on 11/21/2004 by Majic]



posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 12:31 PM
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France should leave the Ivory coast.

It is not up to them to stop a civil war, that should involve no one but the people of the Ivory Coast.



posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 01:46 PM
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The French cannot backout this time because they rely greatly on Ivorian investments and trade. If they were to do so, many Ivorians would in fact lose their jobs and that would promote looting and desecration. Also, the tiny Ivorian government-owned airforce, which was destroyed by the French Airforce, had assulted a French military camp killing nine soldiers and an aid worker. Does anybody think the French should withdraw after what the Ivorian government had done to them?



posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 02:04 PM
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Unemployment rates are running through the roof right now in Ivory. Thousands of French people and other Westerners have fled Ivory Coast, leaving shattered businesses that once fueled the sputtering economy of Ivory. Those people have fled to Paris with no paychecks. The Ivorian economy is now down in the gutter. And French forces must stabilize it for a number of reasons. This could however be a whole new "Iraq Situation," for France, since their are numbers of anti-French Ivorians will to fight them.



posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by NYTInformer
The French cannot backout this time because they rely greatly on Ivorian investments and trade. If they were to do so, many Ivorians would in fact lose their jobs and that would promote looting and desecration. ...............


And that's the reason for the French killing unarmed civilians?.....

One thing I have noticed is that I mentioned this in another post in ATSNN and didn't get almost any responses....People are just stuck up with the U.S. being in Iraq.....when the French are shooting and killing civilians who have no weapons, no explosives, or any type of military equipment.....


Chirac, and most of Europe are just trying to turn the attention of the world only to what happens in Iraq..... I want to know where are the European and American protests for what France is doing....

Oh that's right, I forgot.... France is already socialist..... noone is going to be...protesting.... about the attrocities of France.....

[edit on 21-11-2004 by Muaddib]



posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 02:56 PM
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The president of the Ivory-Coast already asked the business people that left the country to return, they need them more than the French need the cocoa, there are more countries capable of take the place of the Ivory-Coast in the international cocoa market.



posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Muaddib
Oh that's right, I forgot.... France is already socialist..... noone is going to be...protesting.... about the attrocities of France.....


France is not socialist, and I will protest against the atrocities of anyone who commit atrocities, show me proof and I will protest.



posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 04:42 PM
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First of all, France has a varied economic and political-runned system. The majority of French companies are state-owned. However, many other French companies are privatized. So this confirms France is roughly 40% capitalist and 60% socialist.
Back to the topic- The Ivorian government, which is probably very corrupt, told media themselves that French troops fired into crowds killing more than 60 people. However, French defence minister Michele Alliot-Marie, announced that any deaths, resulted from firefights between the Ivory Coast military and armed gangs loyal to Gbagbo. Did the French kill Ivorians at free will or not?



posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 04:57 PM
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Oh well, at least the French has an UN mandate, thus is backed by the rest of the world.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Blobber



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