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reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
You do realize the oral polio vaccines are causing the polio virus to mutate and a small percentage of people taking it have been paralyzed?
Polio Surge In Nigeria After
Vaccine Virus Mutates
By MARIA CHENG, AP Medical Writer
The cVDPV outbreak in Nigeria exemplifies the risks accompanying low RI OPV coverage and underscores the need to balance poliovirus immunity to all serotypes in all populations. In countries and areas where tOPV3 coverage in RI programs remains low, achieving high coverage in SIAs using an appropriate mix of mOPVs, bOPV, and tOPV is essential to limit and ultimately stop all poliovirus circulation.
reply to post by UxoriousMagnus
" I have forgotten more on the subject than you will ever know "
But was this knowledge put to action, or you all talk ?
Time to man up . Name one action you have taken against big pharma that made a tangible outcome for a third party not related to you.
Aka.... Not self serving.
I will not be baited by you shirtless man/boy....I answer to no one but God himself. And God....you are not
The transmission of these revertant strains leads to vaccine-associated paralytic poliomyelitis (VAPP) (2).
Although many industrialized countries have adopted inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) into their immunization programs due to the risk of VAPP (7), several resource-poor nations cannot afford this policy change. Currently, the global VAPP burden is estimated to be 250 to 500 cases annually (14), with most cases occurring in resource-poor settings, and the risk of paralytic polio due to OPV will continue until as long as the oral vaccine is in use.
However, about 1 out of 2.4 million doses of OPV distributed in the United States actually caused vaccine-associated paralytic polio (VAPP). In an effort to reduce this terrible side effect, a new polio vaccine schedule was recommended in 1997 (two doses of IPV followed by two doses of OPV). The new schedule decreased, but did not guarantee elimination, of vaccine-induced paralytic polio; so, effective in the year 2000, an all-IPV schedule was recommended, and OPV is no longer administered in the U.S. OPV continues to be used in countries where wild polio infections still occur.
Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli
Rense hosting BS is what I was referring too - most of the stuff on his site isn't written by him, but he still supports it and is still and idiot.
There is nothing secret or unknown about the live virus mutation - it is mentioned all over ht medical literature on Polio, include the references I gave - which I guess you didn't read - you should try reading them - then perhaps you could try discussing the issues knowledgeably instead of throwing out stupid ad homs.
Except of course if you did read the links you would know that you have no argument - vaccines are eradicating polio - people who insist the vaccines are evil, or causing polio, or some NWO plot to kill us all are actually trying to keep polio alive!!
How do you justify to yourself wanting to NOT eradicate polio?? How does that work for you - I can't really imagine anyone thinking it is good for thousands of people to get sick and some of them to die - you can't really believe that is desirable can you??
reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli
" Guess what, I refused to get the flu shot this year because I am not convinced of its effectiveness at 'protecting' me based on the actual studies done on it."
Fair call. And all power to you.
But God help you if you are wrong. Because it would be unethical and the ultimate hypocrisy to allow medical treatment past identification of said virus. At that point you would isolate yourself and hope for the best. Right ?
reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli
What you seem to want is a fool proof, 100% safe way of fighting a very tricky foe. With variables none of us are smart enough to really comprehend.
i think your stand makes you sound unreasonable or uneducated . Because I know of no person possessing critical thinking talents that would even suggest such a thing is possible.
The thing is. No matter how much we like to debate such topics. We are eventually talking about some serious consequences to other peoples lives. Not necessarily effecting our privileged lives.
reply to post by thedeadtruth
My issue is. I have been to these places. And personal hygiene plays a huge part. But unfortunately forcing people to be hygienic would still bring about a cry of "Nazis and showers" etc.... I have seen areas cleaned up by volunteers that are cesspools one month later.
I too have seen the sanitation in many parts of India, or rather the absolutely, mind-numbingly astounding lack of it.
Literally...(forgive me if you're eating) MOUNTAINS of crap, piled upon yet more mountains of rotting, putrid years and decades old crap...topped off with small wooden hut's, not unlike an old wild West outside privvy in design, built upon 10, 20, 30 meter stilts poised above the mountains of crap...all out in the open air.
Add to that, people just defecating anywhere and everywhere, including the floors of their homes...and 'poor sanitation' doesn't even come remotely close to it.
And the answer to their disease problem is a shot in the arm is it?
If the government is willing to hand over BILLIONS to pharmaceutical corps for the drugs to treat the disease, wouldn't you think it would make just a little more sense, in every possible way imaginable, to spend the vast sums of money on removing the mountains of crap and teaching the link between astoundingly disgusting hygiene practices and disease?
I mean, sure...the poor pharma shareholders have to eat..but even after the shots are dished out like sweeties, the people are still left to eat crap..literally..and sleep in it, walk around on it, their animals eat it and...you get the picture, you've been there right?
Author Jurriaan Maessan stumbled upon some very compelling and important research back in 2010 while digging through annual reports for the Rockefeller Foundation that conclusively prove that it funded numerous research projects into the development “anti-fertility” vaccines, with its origins in scientific research dating back to at least 1968, and with successful research conducted by at least 1988. There now exists several methods to sterilize both men and women by injection, as well as to terminate pregnancies and/or induce spontaneous abortions.
This is highly significant research because the Rockefeller family, dating back to oil baron John D. Rockefeller, has been on the cutting edge of financing Eugenics policy and research. Rockefeller and other primarily Anglo elites based in the U.S. East Coast and England fostered /festered a whole paradigm of social policy centered around the quack science that asserted that the superiority of some gene stocks over others was provable, while seeking various ways to reduce the populations of the “lesser” genetic groups of the world.
Worse, there is evidence that these anti-fertility vaccines – developed through Rockefeller-funded research – may have been used covertly used in several developing nations (for instance, in the Philippines), where women experienced loss of pregnancy after receiving tetanus shots – one of the main carriers for the Rockefeller-funded HcG anti-fertility vaccine.
In its 1968 yearly report, the Rockefeller Foundation acknowledged funding the development of so-called “anti-fertility vaccines” and their implementation on a mass-scale. From page 51 onward we read:
The picture emerging from these facts is clear. The WHO, as a global coordinating body, has since the early 1970s continued the development of the Rockefeller-funded “anti-fertility vaccine”. What also is becoming clear, is that extensive research has been done to the delivery systems in which these anti-fertility components can be buried, such as regular anti-viral vaccines. It’s a mass-scale anti-fertilization programme with the aim of reducing the world’s population: a dream long cherished by the global elite.
This is extraordinarily important news and the eradication of polio will benefit countless millions.
It is rather sad to observe that the anti-vaccine crowd cannot accept this news and still find some reason to disbelieve or belittle this life-changing development. First it was smallpox. Now polio. I read that malaria - a killer of countless millions - may be the next disease to be defeated by science and vaccinations.
Soon the anti-vaccine crowd may even feel that is safe to travel.
reply to post by 727Sky
Depopulation is a myth and eugenics has never existed in any society, according to Mrs. Gaul at least.
This is it, end of discussion, chicken bird chest is right about every thing....
Sup bird boy?
Eugenics, the social movement claiming to improve the genetic features of human populations through selective breeding and sterilization, based on the idea that it is possible to distinguish between superior and inferior elements of society, played a significant role in the history and culture of the United States prior to its involvement in World War II.
Eugenics was practised in the United States many years before eugenics programs in Nazi Germany and U.S. programs provided much of the inspiration for the latter. Stefan Kühl has documented the consensus between Nazi race policies and those of eugenicists in other countries, including the United States, and points out that eugenicists understood Nazi policies and measures as the realization of their goals and demands.