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New Report: NSA Spying Has "NO IMPACT ON FIGHTING TERRORISM"

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posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 11:00 AM
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First of all...We know the NSA is very interested in what we are up to in our bedrooms, what we eat and how we spend our pitiful paychecks. The terrorism thing is just the tool they use to tighten their grip on us.

225 terrorist events since 9/11? Something smells off with that number IMO. If there actually were that many events it would be shouted from the rooftops in order to justify everything.



I have a feeling that this report is a precursor to a tighter surveillance state rather than calling out the NSA.

Peace




posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 11:07 AM
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Surprising, coming from a mainstream news source... However, the NSA has this country so tightly in its grip that anyone calling out the absurdity of the methods used would most likely not perk up their ears. They "let" people continue to have the freedom of speech knowing full well that nothing said will threaten what they have established.



posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 11:20 AM
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The other thing we have to remember about these 'events' is that the FBI set them up.

They fish, create the websites, supply the explosives, organise the attack, even brainwash them in the first place with religious propaganda... Then as they are about to launch it they go "HA! We got you, you were going to blow some people up!"


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posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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Glad to see a report such as this on a major news network. I look at it this way. Those people working as journalists are most likely living here, too, and are under surveillance. In fact, they may even face a higher risk of having the surveillance used against them because they are journalists. In that sense, they are in the same boat as the rest of us with a slightly higher chance of rain. I also liked the fact that they cited traditional law enforcement and investigation as being what has been effective. It's outright calling into question the surveillance's validity. That's good. The people need the media on their side in this matter and like I said, not hard to see that happening as we all are in the same boat from Congress to your neighbor to the journalist at the local paper.



posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 12:26 PM
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Interesting how MSM is even allowing this to come out, not much of a choice at this point, or to rub it in our faces that this is just how it will be?

“These programs were never about terrorism: they’re about economic spying, social control, and diplomatic manipulation. They’re about power.”
- Snowden, In Letter To Brazil

Then came the arguments that it's all a distraction, that we need it for security, that it's revealing is compromising security safety,
Retiring NSA Deputy Director Admits Agency Can’t Prove Terrorists Changing Tactics Because of Snowden
Now we find that even Canada is doing it's part on spying on it's citizens.
CSEC Admits It 'Incidentally' Spies On Canadians

Totalitarianism out of control!

Anyway, hope this gets more attention.
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posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 12:44 PM
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Here's a good article on the subject:

The Last Gasp of American Democracy
www.commondreams.org...




The goal of wholesale surveillance, as Arendt wrote in “The Origins of Totalitarianism,” is not, in the end, to discover crimes, “but to be on hand when the government decides to arrest a certain category of the population.”





The political philosopher Sheldon Wolin, in his essential book “Democracy Incorporated,” calls our system of corporate governance “inverted totalitarianism,” which represents “the political coming of age of corporate power and the political demobilization of the citizenry.” It differs from classical forms of totalitarianism, which revolve around a demagogue or charismatic leader; it finds its expression in the anonymity of the corporate state. The corporate forces behind inverted totalitarianism do not, as classical totalitarian movements do, replace decaying structures with new structures. They instead purport to honor electoral politics, freedom of expression and the press, the right to privacy and the guarantees of law. But they so corrupt and manipulate electoral politics, the courts,


It's a great read, if you have the time.



posted on Jan, 13 2014 @ 06:24 PM
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Thanks ill look for the title....but you dont really have to have it explained in minute details when you already have come to a similar conclusion.......Since 1900 give or take a decade or so.....the corporate takeover has been a phenomenon that has exploded exponentially into the totalitarian world we inhabit.




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