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Bedlam
Utnapisjtim
This tone is in perfect harmony with the Schumann resonance of 7.83Hz (“the hum of the Earth”).
No, it's not. A harmonic is an even integer multiple of some fundamental frequency. 7.83Hz is not a fundamental of 432Hz.
The Schumann resonance isn't a sound. It's not a hum. It's not even a signal. It's the Earth-ionosphere sphere-in-sphere waveguide self resonance frequency. If you have lightning in the right places, you can excite the waveguide, but what you get is a radio wave. Not a sound.
More, the Schumann resonance point is actually badly defined because neither the Earth nor the ionosphere are that spherical, and the ionosphere's height varies constantly. So it's never the same frequency twice, and it's actually several at once. 7.82Hz is a sort of mean.
Utnapisjtim
HumAnnunaki
Utnapisjtim
Why do you think 777 is God's number?
Not so sure as I can only find that specific number (777) once
in the bible as the age of how long Lamech lived.
Lol - listened to too many preachers tell tall tales, I suppose
Curiously I wonder if it shows up in the Qu'ran or Kolbrin..?
Must research that
If God is a number, he is 1
tomoe723
Utnapisjtim
If God is a number, he is 1
haha.. i can't help but agree.. i thought of this when i tried to construct pascal's triangle back then..
1
1 1
1 2 1
1 3 3 1
1 4 6 4 1
. . . . . .
and the trinity belief is also probably reflected in that too because you need three 1s to start the progression.
btw, i'm curious if the myth of pythagoras taking his own life because he can't get his mind over the existence of irrational numbers circle around your group too? it's a joke i remember back in the days my professor shared to us.
Dynamitrios
edit on 15-1-2014 by Dynamitrios because: SATAN AND HITLER TOLD ME TO !!!!!111!!!111!!
Utnapisjtim
Dynamitrios
edit on 15-1-2014 by Dynamitrios because: SATAN AND HITLER TOLD ME TO !!!!!111!!!111!!
Playing flute; in a Pythagorean sense-- could be seen as covering up holes left by whistleblowers to figure out the geometry in the spacing of the holes and produce the music in the distance between the spheres.edit on 15-1-2014 by Utnapisjtim because: changed word
Dynamitrios
reply to post by crowdedskies
i think it could be along the lines "hmmmmm... finger covers hole entirelly... hole must be good... " it s not rocket science, rather than something deeply inherent in man... none of the ancients was dumb... they were much more intuitive, thus more emotionally intelligent, than any of usedit on 15-1-2014 by Dynamitrios because: SATAN AND HITLER TOLD ME TO !!!!!111!!!111!!
Utnapisjtim
reply to post by Bedlam
Possibly an even more outrageous side-track, but you seem like a smart guy. Can sound be used to manipulate space-time itself? Is it possible to explain the effects of sound as warping space-time? Or is it only limited to matter and athmosphere?
I kindof see sound as a 'shadow' of electromagnetic radiation. Like the Moon is a 'shadow' of the Sun, or more precisely, how a 2D shadow is a reflection of the higher 3D dimentional complex. CMYK reflects RGB etc. How they share many characteristica, but only on surface level, for they are completely different concepts all of them. Often dualistic in nature, but with no apparent reason.
tomoe723
reply to post by Utnapisjtim
This binomial expression (x + y)^2 would expand to (x^2 + 2xy + y^2) which consists of the coefficients on the 3rd line in a pascal's triangle. Consequently (x + y)^3 would expand to (x^3 + 3x^2y + 3xy^2 + y^3) where the coefficients reflect the 4th line in the triangle. It goes on and on... It's easy to remember and you can construct the triangle starting with the three 1s on top and continue the next line by initiating a 1, then adding the two top numbers from the previous line, and finally closing it with another 1. From the triangle above, the 6th line would then be:
1 (1+4) (4+6) (6+4) (4+1) 1 = 1 5 10 10 5 1
As for the joke I mentioned earlier, in our academic study of Pythagorean theorem, we presumed that irrational numbers were unknown to Greeks back then. They only knew of natural numbers and/or fractions and barely grasped the concept of zero or negatives even. So the running joke was when Pythagoras came upon the existence of an irrational number, like when he calculated the hypotenuse of a 45 degree right triangle, he'd come up with roots. Since those numbers are nonrepeating and nonterminating, he just can't get his head over it, went mad crazy insane and decided to take his own life. His foundation that the world (or universe) revolved around whole numbers and/or fractions was utterly destroyed leading to despair/depression and finally suicide. I thought it was funny and wondered if that joke also circled in your parts of the world.
Utnapisjtim
tomoe723
reply to post by Utnapisjtim
This binomial expression (x + y)^2 would expand to (x^2 + 2xy + y^2) which consists of the coefficients on the 3rd line in a pascal's triangle. Consequently (x + y)^3 would expand to (x^3 + 3x^2y + 3xy^2 + y^3) where the coefficients reflect the 4th line in the triangle. It goes on and on... It's easy to remember and you can construct the triangle starting with the three 1s on top and continue the next line by initiating a 1, then adding the two top numbers from the previous line, and finally closing it with another 1. From the triangle above, the 6th line would then be:
1 (1+4) (4+6) (6+4) (4+1) 1 = 1 5 10 10 5 1
Thanks for the fun explanation. The people behind that expression must have had way too much time on their hands. Going to the length they did defining all the different intervals expressed in algebra. Are there any sensible applications for it at all? Other than as a learning tool?
As for the joke I mentioned earlier, in our academic study of Pythagorean theorem, we presumed that irrational numbers were unknown to Greeks back then. They only knew of natural numbers and/or fractions and barely grasped the concept of zero or negatives even. So the running joke was when Pythagoras came upon the existence of an irrational number, like when he calculated the hypotenuse of a 45 degree right triangle, he'd come up with roots. Since those numbers are nonrepeating and nonterminating, he just can't get his head over it, went mad crazy insane and decided to take his own life. His foundation that the world (or universe) revolved around whole numbers and/or fractions was utterly destroyed leading to despair/depression and finally suicide. I thought it was funny and wondered if that joke also circled in your parts of the world.
Yes, I've heared the joke elsewhere too. It's just I seldom joke about suicide, lost too many to it I suppose, don't cry in funerals any more either.edit on 16-1-2014 by Utnapisjtim because: (no reason given)
tomoe723
I'm not sure I still remember how they made use of it in ancient times, but in recent times 15th century or so Italian mathematicians used it for gambling purposes. The binomial distribution is especially effective at determining probabilities of possible outcomes in win/lose situations, like a dice game or something similar.
Mathematicians have nothing better to do than dabble with numbers all day, so it doesn't surprise me anymore if they did all that and more. I used to have that reaction when I just began my endeavor in the study of Mathematics, wondering how the heck could they maintain such discipline or passion for numbers when to the ordinary person it seems so trivial.
I apologize for the insensitivity of the joke. Suicide is not a light matter to handle. However, having studied the lives of a handful of notable mathematicians, I've come to an understanding that it's normal for them to go crazy and entertain thoughts of ending one's life. Some of them are even diagnosed with mental illnesses. Others almost fade into oblivion until years after their deaths when future generations have chanced upon their works and caught up to their intellects do they gain praise and fame for their efforts at dabbling with numbers when it all seemed so pointless to the people at the time when they were still alive. But rest assured the comedy I apply to these is with endearing affection, much like a friend's advice to another friend that if we can't deal with the problem or fight it, might as well laugh at the problem coz there's no point in piling up the seriousness over it.
Bedlam
I really can't see how. Sound seems really dramatic to us because we've got pretty darn good microphones.
crowdedskies
I was referring to the comment by the OP that 55,000 years ago the Do Re Mi scale was being used by primitive man. To achieve these notes, the distance between each hole has to be calculated with the reference to the diameter and length of the tube using complex formulas. You will not get the do re mi sound by just putting holes in a pipe.
arpgme
What about 136.1 Hz , does that number have any significance? This is how The Hindus in India tuned their instruments, it's called 'The Aum Tone'. The Hindus were always interested in sound. They used tuning forks on this frequency so that were doing this since ancient times, but to be honest, I am not sure where the tradition came from.
136.1 Hz would be C# in A=432HZ.
Om (written universally as ॐ; in Devanagari as ओं oṃ [õː], औं auṃ [ə̃ũ], or ओ३म् om [õːm]) is a mantra and mystical Sanskrit sound of Hindu origin (geographically India), sacred and important in various Dharmic religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism. The syllable is also referred to as omkara (ओंकार oṃkāra) or aumkara (औंकार auṃkāra), literally "om syllable", and in Sanskrit it is sometimes referred to as praṇava, literally "that which is sounded out loudly".
en.wikipedia.org...
The syllable "om" is first described as all-encompassing mystical entity in the Upanishads. Today, in all Hindu art and all over Nepal and India, 'om' can be seen virtually everywhere, a common sign for Hinduism and its philosophy and theology. Hindus believe that as creation began, the divine, all-encompassing consciousness took the form of the first and original vibration manifesting as sound "OM". Before creation began it was "Shunyākāsha", the emptiness or the void. Shunyākāsha, meaning literally "no sky", is more than nothingness, because everything then existed in a latent state of potentiality. The vibration of "OM" symbolises the manifestation of God in form ("sāguna brahman"). "OM" is the reflection of the absolute reality, it is said to be "Adi Anadi", without beginning or the end and embracing all that exists. The mantra "OM" is the name of God, the vibration of the Supreme. When taken letter by letter, A-U-M represents the divine energy (Shakti) united in its three elementary aspects: Bhrahma Shakti (creation), Vishnu Shakti (preservation) and Shiva Shakti (liberation, and/or destruction).
Utnapisjtim
Apparently, if we are to believe the Upanishads and other books like the Rig Veda and the Bhagavadgita, the entire universe was created by that sound.