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The JFK Assassination----NASA and USAEC Roles-----50 Years is long Enough

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posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 01:36 AM
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AngryCymraeg
I note that your reaction to being caught on a massive inaccuracy is to post lots and lots of complete honk. Interesting.


I found a couple errors so far. Nothing serious, just some instances of inaccurate fact checking. The raison d'être of this thread is still to illuminate the Masonic connections to the JFk assassination. The OP is doing a smashing job of it.

Hecklers be damned.




posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 07:08 AM
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Ah yes, it was THE MASONS!

Which ones? Prince Hall, Scottish Rite? Perhaps those damn Shriners plotted this whilst riding those damn clown cars around.
Or.......Maybe it was those "honorary masons"! I hear they are the worst kind.

Seriously, if you were to comprehend how masonry works, you would see that while it's very possible that a man, or even some men who plotted to do something were in fact masons, "masonry" could not have had anything to do with it as a whole. It just doesn't work that way. But I am biased since I am a mason. So perhaps, one day, when you have exhausted your words and are left with nothing but time, you can investigate the structure of Freemasonry, see how lodges communicate, see how often there is communications between Grand lodges and find out how in the hell anyone met and agreed on anything.

Look into the William Morgan affair. He is said to have been killed by masons for spilling secrets. While he may have been, it was the work of 1 lodge and not all the members of that 1 lodge I'd wager. Or, he may have had his publisher write the fantastic story and he lived out his days in Canada receiving royalty cheques.



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 07:42 AM
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The Masons (CIA Allan Dulles, et al) essentially founded the Operation Gladio process for Italy, which is totally based in the Masons insurgency methods of insurrection that they used in the US via Abe Lincoln, JFK, RFK, MLK, et al. And the theme is still to defend Royalist's Nobles and battle against Communism (and Vatican Power) that would terminate Royalist's power. imho

Anyone that knows about Galdio recognizes the same sword symbolism as the Masons use as part of their Degree drama.

Dulles, Hoover, all the LDS FBI agents, all the Div 5 FBI (MI-5), and those like Mason Clint Murchison and George Wallace would all have knowledge of these methods and be using those same methods to go after JFK, RFK, MLK, which they all termed as Communists! imho

It doesn't get much more explicit when you know about Gladio methods, which are one in the same with Mason insurrection methods in use against the US. Even the NAZI's of the Ghelen Org subscribed to these methods!!! imho

Then add on the P2 Mason methods, plus the LDS Mason back up methods, and it is three strikes and they are out and exposed! imho

Exact same methods, with the exact same Royalist based participants, and it doesn't get any more explicit! imho And if you check you even find Reagan's October Surprise dealers.






CIA director Allen Dulles was one of the key people in instituting Operation Gladio, and most of Gladio’s operations were financed by the CIA.[citation needed] The anti-communist networks, which were present in all of Europe, including in neutral countries like Sweden and Switzerland, were partly funded by the CIA.[7]

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However, Italian Gladio was more far reaching. A briefing minute of June 1, 1959, reveals that Gladio, 'in case of Soviet military invasion' of the country, considered a concrete possibility at the time, had to organize resistance by 'internal subversion' rather than by trying to make plans for open warfare. It was to play 'a determining role... not only on the general policy level of warfare, but also in the politics of emergency'. In the 1970s, Italy experienced a period of increased activity and popular support of the national communist party, as well as a high number of labor strikes and mass demonstrations against the government. During this time, the electoral support for the Italian Communist Party and other leftists was growing to more than 1/3 of the Italian popular vote.

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In Germany, for example, Gladio had as a central focus the Gehlen Org – also involved in ODESSA "ratlines" – named after Reinhard Gehlen who would become West Germany's first head of intelligence. Its clandestine "cells" were to stay behind (hence the name) in enemy-controlled territory and to act as resistance movements, conducting sabotage, guerrilla warfare and assassinations.





Mason Dulles Operation Gladio



The Operation Gladio insurgency methods are one in the same as the Catholic Hating Mason P2 lodge set up to gain control over the Vatican. P2 factions killed a newly seated Pope after the Pope detected their Mason status and began tossing them out in mass. P2 (Italian Based) and Gladio (Italian Based) operate on the Mason's model. The Mason model also cloned itself into hiding behind religion via the methods of Joseph Smith, in case the Masons insurgence were detected as a Criminally Based insurrection process to gain control over the US.






Propaganda Due (Italian pronunciation: [propaˈɡanda ˈduːe]), or P2, was a Masonic lodge operating under the jurisdiction of the Grand Orient of Italy from 1945 to 1976 (when its charter was withdrawn), and a pseudo-Masonic, "black", or "covert" lodge operating illegally (in contravention of Article 18 of the Constitution of Italy banning secret associations) from 1976 to 1981. During the years that the lodge was headed by Licio Gelli, P2 was implicated in numerous Italian crimes and mysteries, including the collapse of the Vatican-affiliated Banco Ambrosiano, the murders of journalist Mino Pecorelli and banker Roberto Calvi, and corruption cases within the nationwide bribe scandal Tangentopoli. P2 came to light through the investigations into the collapse of Michele Sindona's financial empire.[1]
P2 was sometimes referred to as a "state within a state"[2] or a "shadow government".[3] The lodge had among its members prominent journalists, members of parliament, industrialists, and military leaders—including Silvio Berlusconi, who later became Prime Minister of Italy; the Savoy pretender to the Italian throne Victor Emmanuel; and the heads of all three Italian intelligence services (at the time SISDE, SISMI and CESIS).





MasonsP2VaticanInsurgency

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In the mid-1960s P2 had only fourteen members, but in 1970 Salvini asked Gelli to 'restructure' the lodge.

Suddenly numbers soared. Within a decade it had 400 members, a few years later almost 1,000. Gelli has received all the credit and blame for this achievement, but Gamberini supervised many of the initiation ceremonies which Gelli performed in P2's Excelsior Hotel headquarters. Grand Master Salvini was just as involved. In December 1971 he told P2 members that henceforth they could pursue their 'profane' (worldly) aims under the cover of their concealed order:

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The year is 1964.

In the meeting room, twelve members of P-2, dressed in satin ceremonial robes and wearing black hoods reminiscent of those worn by members of the Ku Klux Klan, sit in leather chairs at a red marble conference table. They are the elite members of the Wolf Pack, Gelli's disciples - some say his execution squad. None of the black-clad disciples knows the identity of any of his eleven brothers.

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Gelli served as an Officer in the notorious German SS Herman Goering Division which saw extensive duty in the battles of Sicily and Mainland Italy.

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"There was one common denominator, one fact that linked each of the men about to be replaced. Villot was aware of it. More important, so was the pope. It had been one of the factors that had caused him to act, to strip these men of real power...it was Freemasonry."

"The evidence the pope had acquired indicated that within the Vatican City State there were over one hundred Masons, ranging from cardinals to priests."

"Luciani was further preoccupied with an illegal Masonic lodge that had penetrated far beyond Italy in its search for wealth and power. It called itself P2. The fact that it had penetrated the Vatican walls and formed links with priests, bishops, and even cardinals made P2 anathema to Albino Luciani."

"That evening, September 28, 1978, thirty-three days after his election, Pope John Paul I, "the smiling pope", was declared dead. No official death certificate has ever been issued. No autopsy ever performed. His body was hastily embalmed. Cause of death: Unknown. And Vatican business continues..."




TheMasonP2InsurrectionMethods





The relationship between Mormonism and Freemasonry began early in the life of Mormon founder Joseph Smith, Jr., as his older brother and possibly his father were Freemasons while the family lived near Palmyra, New York. Nevertheless, in the late 1820s, the western New York region was swept with anti-Masonic fervor, and the Book of Mormon, a foundational religious book published by Smith in 1830, is generally considered to reflect that anti-Masonic sentiment by condemning what it portrays as oath-bound conspiratorial organizations.
By the 1840s, however, Smith and several prominent Mormons had become Freemasons and founded a lodge in Nauvoo, Illinois, in March 1842. Soon after joining Freemasonry, Smith introduced a new temple "Endowment" ceremony including a number of symbolic elements that were essentially identical with their analogues within Freemasonry.




MasonJosephSmithBackUPSystemLDS



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 07:57 AM
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MagnumOpus
And if you check you even find Reagan's October Surprise dealers.



Yes, and if you look real close, you can still see that Reagan was never a mason.

Ronald Reagan has often been referred to as a Freemason. President Reagan is not a Freemason although he is an honorary member of the Imperial Council of the Shrine. President Reagan has on numerous occasions been involved in Shrine and masonic functions throughout his career.

Link to exhausted source.



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 09:30 AM
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For the better informed that know Oliver North knew Gladio methods and P2 methods, Reagan was installed by Masons. imho


Due to these Mason associations, the Masons named Reagan a Certified Title of Mason, and Reagan said he was glad to become a Mason.

Reagan then appointed a Mason Judge, who then got Oliver North off the hook for helping Reagan pull off October Surprise. imho

Reagan and Ollie were part of the Mason's game. At that point Reagan knew too much, and offended Mason Ford. And SS Bonesman Bush wanted to take over, like the Mason JFK end game.

The Mason's deceit and treachery games were alive and well during the Reagan era and the Mason's Banking games against Russia's Communism.





Under Gelli P2 Masonic Lodge was the most powerful, political, and violent secret organization in Italy. Important Italian Generals, magistrates, and businessmen became members of P2 Masonic Lodge which Gelli served from the hierarchy of Freemasonry. Determined to destroy Italy's parliamentary system of government in order to form a Presidential Dictatorship, Gelli recruited members who swore allegiance to him rather than to the nation of Italy.

Gelli was not brilliant so much as shrewd and devious.

He had money and power, but he realized that wealth and position meant little without the weapon of fear. Gelli believed that fear was the instrument by which real power could be masterfully employed, and he believed fear was most useful when cloaked in silence. So Grand Master Gelli divided members of P2 Masonic Lodge into divisions and forbade them to disclose their membership.

In 1980 Gelli was the Guest of Honour at one of Ronald Reagan's Presidential Inauguration Balls. It has been suggested that Gelli worked closely with Reagan CIA Director Appointee William Casey in the "October Surprise" involving the delayed release of U.S. hostages held by the Ayatollah Khomeini until after the elections, which contributed greatly to Jimmy Carters defeat.






ReagansP2Masons



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 09:54 AM
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Most know that all the CIA methods were designed to support Mason's Insurgency methods, and Reagan's William Casey was not an exception! imho

The Mason's 10 step York Rights have the "Knights of Malta", which attempts to tie the 33 step Royalists Masons to Catholic and P2 masons.

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Personal life[edit]

Casey was a devout Catholic and a member of the Knights of Malta.[12]

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Hours before Casey was scheduled to testify before Congress related to his knowledge of Iran-Contra, he was reported to have been rendered incapable of speech, and was later hospitalized. In a 1987 book, Veil: The Secret Wars of the CIA 1981-1987, Washington Post reporter and biographer Bob Woodward, who had interviewed Casey on a number of occasions for the biography, said that he had gained entry into Casey's hospital room for a final, four-minute encounter—a claim which was met with disbelief in many quarters as well as an adamant denial from Casey's wife, Sofia. According to Woodward, when Casey was asked if he knew about the diversion of funds to the Nicaraguan Contras, "His head jerked up hard. He stared, and finally nodded yes."[11]




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WilliamCaseyKnightMalta


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The Knights of Malta were also responsible for helping thousands of the worst Nazis and members of the SS escape to freedom down these Ratlines, thus evading justice and avoiding the hangman’s noose at Nuremberg. PRINCES OF PLUNDER By David Guyatt

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John McCone was a very powerful industrialist, and one who was part of the military-industrial complex, before he became the head of the CIA. He later went on to become part of, I believe, ITT.
John McCone was another Knight of Malta, head of the CIA, and participated in the Kennedy assassination by virtue of him being its head. And he's Knight of Malta.
Angelton is a Knight of Malta. Henry Luce is a Knight of Malta. William F. Buckley is a Knight of Malta. And William F. Buckley then ran the National Review-and what does he do? He blames Oswald as the lone assassin.






KnightsMalta



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 10:18 AM
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President Reagan is not a Freemason
President Reagan is not a Freemason
President Reagan is not a Freemason
President Reagan is not a Freemason
President Reagan is not a Freemason
President Reagan is not a Freemason
President Reagan is not a Freemason

Now if you don't stop your ridiculous claims, I am afraid you will have to write this on the chalk board 500 times.

Your head can't really be this thick can it?



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 10:23 AM
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Reagan's Special guest that obtained his October Surprise. Mason Gelli was the Mason's P2 Master that invaded the Vatican. Thus Mason Gelli bought and paid for Reagan via the Election Boost of October Surprise.








Gelli served as an Officer in the notorious German SS Herman Goering Division which saw extensive duty in the battles of Sicily and Mainland Italy.

When the dictator fell, Gelli fled to Argentina, where he allied himself with Juan Peron, became Peron's economic advisor to Italy, and was granted dual citizenship.

Operated the "Rat Line" which orchestrated the escape of hundreds of indicted or suspected Nazi War Criminals, "Scientists", and Nazi Intelligence Officers including likely Klaus Barbie the Butcher of Lyon, Via Switzerland to South America under the direction of OSS/CIA, and M.I.5 using the code name "Operation Paperclip".

With the help of the Grande Oriente of Italy the Anti-Fascist Commission cleared Gelli of War Crime charges related to his involvement with the executions of Partisans by the SS, contradicting claims by Masons of Anti-Masonry by Italian Fascists, and Anti-Fascism by Italian Masons. When Juan Peron died, Eva Peron called him back to organize the transition.

In early 1960's he joined the Masonic Order of Freemasonry known in Italy as the Grande Oriente (recognized by mainstream Freemasonry UGLE & U.S. Grand Lodges). As Grand Master of P2 Gelli declared himself "a lifelong anti-communist".

Secret Head of CIA and MI5 "Stay Behind" Underground Resistance Force Plan with the codename Operation "Gladio", who worked under the direct supervision of Freemason Dulles, who later became the CIA director fired by JFK. In the event of a takeover by Communists or anyone else the CIA, MI5 or Pentagon didn't like in Europe or Latin America, "Gladio" would wage a clandestine war of subversion and terrorism against the offending Government/Movement/People.




MasonGelli



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 10:26 AM
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The Catholic "Knights of Malta" are not in any way affiliated with Freemasonry.

Only a complete and total idiot would make that mistake. See, the Catholic Church doesn't like Freemasonry. In fact, they will ex-communicate any member of the church who joins.

See this link to fully understand that relationship.

The official site for Knights of Malta.

See, it's the little things that you can't seem to let go of that make the rest of your fabricated story look, well, fabricated.
If you can't get these little facts right, how can we trust you to handle the big facts?



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 10:30 AM
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MagnumOpus
Reagan's Special guest that obtained his October Surprise. Mason Gelli was the Mason's P2 Master that invaded the Vatican. Thus Mason Gelli bought and paid for Reagan via the Election Boost of October Surprise.




If an Italian had the power over Iranian hostages, (which in and of itself makes no sense)then sure, he could have really helped Reagan by having the hostages released.

But seen the rest of the world saw Carter as an ineffective leader, not willing to use force when needed, but Reagan would be more than willing to kick ass and take names, which is why the hostages were released when they were.



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 10:43 AM
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When the P2 invasion began in June 63, and really well before that. Was JFK tipped off of the Secret Society invasions of the Vatican?

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Pope Paul VI (Latin: Paulus VI), born Giovanni Battista Enrico Antonio Maria Montini (26 September 1897 – 6 August 1978), was the head of the Roman Catholic Church from 21 June 1963 to his death in 1978. Succeeding Pope John XXIII, he continued the Second Vatican Council which he closed in late 1965, and fostered improved ecumenical relations with Orthodox and Protestants, which resulted in many historic meetings and agreements.



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PaulVI


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P2's shocking 'state within a state' membership lists were discovered one month later, but magistrates had already been investigating P2's Grand Master Lucio Gelli for two years and knew how deeply he and his Masonic cronies had subverted the Vatican in the eighteen years since Paul VI had become Pope.

Now the Vatican suddenly realized Freemasonry was still a perfect vehicle for conspiracies against Church and State. 'Times change,' the English bishops had said in 1974. They failed to say that Freemasonry remains the same. The P2 scandal was 1738 and 1848 all over again.





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MasonsInvadePaulVI


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After Gelli, Reagan had lots of making up to do:


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Casey also turned to Defense Intelligence Agency for a competing analysis, that was ultimately reconciled with the CIA analysts to produce the estimate circulated within the government as "The Soviet Role in Revolutionary Violence."[7] This, in turn, convinced Reagan that there was a threat.[8] After records from the collapsed Communist governments became available in the 1990s it became clear that the disputed report overestimated Communist involvement in terrorist activity.[9]

Ronald Reagan used other prominent Catholics in his government to brief the pope during the Cold War. Casey would fly secretly to Rome in a windowless C-141 black jet and "be taken undercover to the Vatican.[10]

Casey oversaw the re-expansion of the Intelligence Community to funding and human resource levels greater than those existing before the preceding Carter Administration; in particular, he increased levels within the CIA



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ReaganandCasey



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 01:44 PM
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SayonaraJupiter

AngryCymraeg
I note that your reaction to being caught on a massive inaccuracy is to post lots and lots of complete honk. Interesting.


I found a couple errors so far. Nothing serious, just some instances of inaccurate fact checking. The raison d'être of this thread is still to illuminate the Masonic connections to the JFk assassination. The OP is doing a smashing job of it.

Hecklers be damned.


Yes, he is indeed making a smashing job of it. A smashing job of making a total fool of himself.



posted on Jan, 15 2014 @ 08:40 PM
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the op does reveal the evil aspects of masons which they don't like.,



posted on Jan, 16 2014 @ 01:07 AM
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Nochzwei
reply to post by AngryCymraeg
 

the op does reveal the evil aspects of masons which they don't like.,



The OP is convinced that Masons are behind everything from the death of Elvis to the disappearance of Shergar. It's a plot, a massive plot I tell you!



posted on Jan, 16 2014 @ 02:53 AM
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AngryCymraeg

SayonaraJupiter

AngryCymraeg
I note that your reaction to being caught on a massive inaccuracy is to post lots and lots of complete honk. Interesting.


I found a couple errors so far. Nothing serious, just some instances of inaccurate fact checking. The raison d'être of this thread is still to illuminate the Masonic connections to the JFk assassination. The OP is doing a smashing job of it.

Hecklers be damned.


Yes, he is indeed making a smashing job of it. A smashing job of making a total fool of himself.


Actually, you are heckling. Hoover & JFK is a serious historical subject. If you have evidence to the contrary please post it, or correct his errors, but please refrain from heckling. ATS is not that type of venue.



posted on Jan, 16 2014 @ 04:24 AM
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Reagan's extreme Mason alliances should be highly obvious from his connections with the Jim Garrison trial. Ronald Reagan sequestered witnesses and PERMINDEX files from subpoena by Jim Garrison in going after PERMINDEX and its associates connected with the JFK hit. Just that, and especially that, earned Ronald Reagan extreme favors from the highest Masons in the US and world. imho


It is no secret that Ronald got to the White House via Mason Backing as pay-back for saving the Masons from Jim Garrison. Jesse Helms is one of the extreme Southern Jurisdiction Masons in the South that took over the Southern Masons hate for Civil Rights, MLK, and also being connected to the extremist games against Communism that shows the mark of Masons insurrection techniques being applied. imho

Helms was at the very root of the Contra support, which was backed by Oliver North's actions. That then caught up Reagan and his P2 connections with Gelli to undermine the Catholic Church per Central and South American Communism linked issues. imho

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Jesse Alexander Helms, Jr. (October 18, 1921 – July 4, 2008) was a five-term Republican United States Senator from North Carolina who served as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee from 1995 to 2001. A leading conservative, he helped organize and fund the conservative resurgence in the 1970s, aiding Ronald Reagan's quest for the White House and helping many local and regional candidates.

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An unreconstructed Southern conservative, he began his political career in the Democratic Party in the days when many white Southern politicians championed racial segregation and most blacks were disfranchised. He moved to the Republican party in the 1970s. Helms was the most stridently conservative politician of the post-1960s era,[4] especially in opposition to federal intervention into what he considered state affairs (integration, the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act). Helms conducted a 16-day filibuster to stop the Senate from approving a federal holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr.

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In 1950, Helms played a critical role as campaign publicity director for Willis Smith in the U.S. Senate campaign against a prominent liberal Frank Porter Graham.[14] Smith (a conservative Democratic lawyer and former president of the American Bar Association) portrayed Graham, who supported school desegregation, as a "dupe of communists" and a proponent of the "mingling of the races." Smith's fliers said, "Wake Up, White People," in the campaign for the virtually all-white primaries.

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He referred to the university as "The University of Negroes and Communists", and suggested a wall be erected around the campus to prevent the university's liberal views from "infecting" the rest of the state. Helms said the civil rights movement was infested by communists and "moral degenerates", and described Medicaid as a "step over into the swampy field of socialized medicine".[15]
On the 1963 civil rights protests, Helms stated, "The negro cannot count forever on the kind of restraint that's thus far left him free to clog the streets, disrupt traffic, and interfere with other men's rights."[18] He later wrote, "Crime rates and irresponsibility among negroes are a fact of life which must be faced".[19]







Helms announced his candidacy for a seat in the United States Senate in 1972. His Republican primary campaign was managed by Thomas F. Ellis, who would later be instrumental in Ronald Reagan's 1976 campaign and also become the chair of the National Congressional Club.

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In a widely publicized incident on July 22, 1993, Carol Moseley Braun, the first black woman in the Senate and the only black Senator at the time, reported that Helms deliberately sought to offend her by singing "Dixie" in her presence.[227][227][228][229]







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JesseHelmsSupportsReagan



edit on 16-1-2014 by MagnumOpus because: Reagan's P-2 Alliances were insurrection methods of Masons against the Catholic Church and Vatican. imho



posted on Jan, 16 2014 @ 04:53 AM
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It can be further shown the Central and South American issues were dominated by Mason's insurrection methods and became very extreme in their efforts to confront Communism. imho


The very heart of the Masons methods is to make extreme tensions, via the efforts of essentially terrorism, that to force the Mason CIA planned coup of Communism and that it be replaced by CIA Mason designed capitalism. imho

Reagan was highly connected with P2 and Gelli, as such, and was backed by various Masons like Helms, and Mason CIA elites. imho

Reagan when he backed Gelli and P2 undermined the Catholic Church itself. When that was determined, Reagan was in huge political trouble. imho

Citations:




The CAL-Reagan-Helms Triangle

In 1980 the incoming Reagan administration had links to the Latin American chapters of WACL, not just through P-2, but even more directly through Republican Senator Jesse Helms. Indeed Helms became a focal point for U.S. intelligence and Republican connections to CAL in Latin America, following a visit in 1975 to WACL headquarters in Taiwan. Helms also travelled to Argentina (via a WACL Conference in Rio) in April 1975; and at least two of his aides, Ramon Molina and Nat Hamrick returned, along with Daniel Graham, in early 1976, shortly before the Argentine generals' coup of March 24. Helms, according to Ramon Molina, "actually encouraged the military to move in and depose President Peron.

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This U.S.-Argentine connection in 1975-76 (Helms, Molina, Hamrick, Richard Stone, and Daniel Graham) would become the hard core Reagan-Sandoval-contra connection after 1980. We have seen how Graham and Singlaub assured Guatemalans in 1979 that "Mr. Reagan recognizes that a good deal of dirty work needs to be done.

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Reagan, the Contras, and Narcotics

Such then was the state of WACL when Singlaub began his missionary activities to it on behalf of Reagan in 1979-80. It might be said in defense of their policies that WACL represented an old U.S. intelligence project out of control; and that Singlaub has worked to bring it back under control. Alternatively, the WACL collaboration might be seen as a kind of "constructive engagement" with neofascism, offering right-wing governments equipment and support services, in exchange for their renunciation of death squad politics that would never play well in Peoria.

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Trotter admitted in 1980 that he was actively fundraising in this period in Guatemala. The money he spoke of, half a million dollars, was however not directly for the Reagan campaign, but for a documentary film in support of Reagan's Latin American policies, being made by one of the groups supporting Reagan, the American Security Council (ASC). The film argued that the survival of the United States depended on defeat of the Sandinistas in Nicaragua: "Tomorrow: Honduras...Venezuela, the Dominican Republic, Mexico...the United States."

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Argentina eventually became one of the two principal reasons why Reagan's first Secretary of State, Alexander Haig, resigned on June 25, 1982. (The other area of disagreement was over Israel's invasion of Lebanon.) Haig later charged that his official policy of siding with Britain against Argentina (supported by Reagan, whose closest personal ally abroad was Margaret Thatcher) had been seriously undercut, not just by Ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick, but by someone above her in the White House.







The Strategy of Tension: CAL, P-2, Drugs, and the Mafia

Reports linking WACL to drugs became particularly flagrant in the period 1976-80, as the rift between WACL and Carter's CIA widened, and as a new Argentine-dominated affiliate of WACL in Latin America (the Confederacion Anticomunista Latina, or CAL) plotted to extirpate radical Roman Catholic priests and prelates fostering liberation theology.

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According to the Italian Parliamentary Report on P-2:

P-2 contributed to the strategy of tension, that was pursued by right-wing extremist groups in Italy during those years when the purpose was to destabilize Italian politics, creating a situation that such groups might be able to exploit in their own interest to bring about an authoritarian solution to Italy's problems.

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P-2's political purposes also clearly involved the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980:

On April 8,1980, Gelli wrote from Italy to Phillip Guarino...

"If you think it might be useful for something favorable to your presidential candidate to be published in Italy, send me some material and I'll get it published in one of the papers here."...The favorable comments about Ronald Reagan, carefully placed by Licio Gelli, duly appeared in Italy. In January 1981, Licio Gelli was an honored guest at the presidential inauguration. Guarino later ruefully observed, "He had a better seat than I did."

In 1981, the period of its Argentine grand design for Central America, the Reagan administration appears in turn to have been exploiting P-2 pathways.





Source:

TheReaganHelmsConnectionsP2



posted on Jan, 16 2014 @ 05:19 AM
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So, inspect the time-lines and discover the real history, the real controllers, and the real subversion in the US system today. imho

Reagan was California Governor from Jan. 1967 to Jan. 1975.

Garrison charged PERMINDEX agent Clay Shaw March 1967, and case ended Jan 1969. Shaw's not guilty was backed by Reagan blocking Jim Garrison's seeking witnesses and files linked with PERMINDEX that would show Mason George Mandel and connections with Hungarian anti-Communism.

Southern Mason Extremist Jesse Helms backs Ronald Reagan as pay-back for the Garrison cover up. The Mason connections with Oliver North are connected with "October Surprise" he help defeat Georgia's non allied Mason Jimmy Carter, and gain Reagan the election. imho

Reagan became President from Jan. 81 to Jan. 89.

Reagan immediately gets in trouble by inviting Mason NAZI and terrorist Gelli to his election ball. imho

Reagan given Mason's appreciation and title certificates Feb. 1988, and that for having backed the PERMINDEX cover up, hiding the P2 issues of the Masons against the Catholic Church, and covering up the CIA Mason linked methods of insurrection tensions in CIA methods to counter Communism on Central and South America. imho

Iran-Contra exposed in Nov. 1986, and Jesse Helms, Reagan, Oliver North all behind it.

Reagan replaced as President by his VP Skull/Bones Bush in 1989 and until 1993.

Reagan's deals with P2/Gelli/VaticanInsurrections was covered up with Bush-41's cut and run Pardon of almost all the Iran-Contra connected Crooks associated with the CIA/Mason insurrection and terrorism tactics. P2 are secret Masons invading the Vatican and South American countries Catholic leadership. Gelli is MASON, ex-NAZI, anti-Communist, and linked with terrorism in South America using the CIA/Mason methods to gain control and power. Gelli applied the same tactics in Italy toward the Vatican and Popes. imho

These same Mason/CIA terrorism tactics were applied to the US, via the overthrow of Catholic JFK for Mason LBJ. The shut down of Catholic RFK's run for presidency to get Nixon and Ford in place in 1969 to 1974, then Ford from 1974 to 1977.

One can even see the anti-Catholic issues of the P-2 Masons applied to JFK and RFK, and to the issues of killing MLK and other black civil rights leaders. imho JFK would be able to see the Mason control of the South on Civil Rights and even to connect all the CIA interests in the Lower Americas was Mason insurrection methods in design and application. imho

Thus, all of which is shown to have high associations with the Mason's design for America following their methods of tensions and terror, leading to their gain of power and control over the White House. Exact same methods being applied to the Central and South American interests. Exact same methods being used by PERMINDEX against de Gaulle and JFK. imho


And these cover-ups are still running today, via the secret society methods of the CIA to keep the American People from knowing the truth on JFK. imho


edit on 16-1-2014 by MagnumOpus because: Houston, Rover has landed and the Hound Dog was discovered a pack of Mason Crooks behind terrorism and CIA. imho



posted on Jan, 16 2014 @ 06:08 AM
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Out of curiosity, if P2 was disbanded and lost their charter in 1976, how did they have any masonic affect on Reagan becoming president in 1980?

I realize this question is far beyond your reading comprehension, so please just post a few more paragraphs of the same regurgitated spam you have been posting.



posted on Jan, 16 2014 @ 10:06 AM
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Then check history and find that the CIA was created at the insistence of Mason Hoover with Mason Truman. imho


Then Mason Allan Dulles takes command and the methods of the Masons insurrection methods take control of, or attempt to take control over Central and South American Countries using the tension and terrorism methods. imho

The CIA methods are similar to the Mafia in that they make trouble until those they want "knuckle under" and play their game of payola, then they sell protection in place of terrorism. The Masons games are cause extreme tension, even terror, and when public Chaos happens, they step up publicly and claim their control. The Masons 33 Degree Trademark Symbolism of "Two Ball Cane" is all about that technique of war first, their control second. This technique infected the CIA, but it also infected the US in the times of Abe Lincoln much earlier.

In the times of LHO, the New Orleans office for the CIA was in the New Orleans Mason's building for the obvious reasons that Allan Dulles liked Masons. That was a major secret for a long time in the JFK hit, because it linked the Masons to former FBI man Guy Banister, then with David Ferrie on CIA missions, then to "sheep dipping" Lee Harvey Oswald as a Communist. imho

Then we find that JFK is going to break the CIA into a million pieces over the methods and the control of the Masons essentially running the CIA and causing JFK serious problems due to the Masons in the CIA trying to force him to do "dirty work" and make wars.

The real question that RFK should have asked was Did the Masons kill JFK, and did the Masons make the fraud Warren Report. Did the Masons cease the CIA and other international resources that were used to kill JFK?

Anywhere one reads this "Men of Character and Honor", read the introduction of the Masons. imho

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SAHL: Because the evidence developed by District Attorney Garrison indicates that certain people had to take President Kennedy's life in order to control ours. In other words, as Richard Starnes of the New York World-Telegram said, the shots in Dallas were the opening shots of World War III. There's been a great change in this country since Kennedy. I'm afraid a great deal of our hope was interred with his remains.

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SAHL: We'll start pursuing the American dream again. I don't know if we'll ever realize it, but we're supposed to have the right to pursue it. And that's what this country is. It's an active exercise in man reaching his upper limit, as they used to say in the math department. And the renaissance will be that a ground swell of public opinion will flush out the rascals because the CIA has infiltrated every area of our national life. I'm afraid that the country they subverted best was the United States, be they in the various right-wing churches or be they in the Dallas Police Department. In fact, the CIA is the only organization I know that could penetrate the Birch Society and make them drift further to the right.

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Fascism will come to America in the name of national security.

— Jim Garrison

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I want to splinter the CIA in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.

— John F. Kennedy

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SAHL: Fascism. It started with the death of Roosevelt. They moved in and they negated every treaty we made with every world leader who didn't fit the fascist/militarist mold. We went back on our word. As David Schoenbrun says very well, "I am not a dissenter for saying this. Those who betrayed American policy are the dissenters." We've gone back on the dream of national independence and we were the model for the rest of the world. Then when they followed our model, we attacked them for it. Shameful. No one has a right to stain the American flag. And unfortunately, we have people in this country who did it. If America goes, it will surely be an inside job.

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SAHL: Because we have to decide. Once the neo-fascists became bold enough to slay the President on the street, they showed their hand. They showed how arrogant they had become. Now it's a question of symptom. That crime was a national symptom. If we can turn our back on that, we will pay a terrible price. That will be the end of this democracy. As a matter of fact, it's been dying since Kennedy's death. We have to cleanse our soul. It's much the same as the French when they regained their national honor, not by framing Dreyfus, but by admitting that they did.








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Mort Sahl



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Following Kennedy's assassination in 1963, Sahl's interest in who was behind it was so great that he became a deputized member of New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison's team to investigate the murder.[2] As a result, Sahl's comedy began to reflect his politics and included readings and commentary on the Warren Commission Report. His earlier anti-Kennedy jokes and his onstage tirades against the Warren Commission alienated much of his audience. He was effectively blacklisted and his shows were cancelled. Sahl's income dropped from US$1 million to US$19,000 a year.

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He was born on May 11, 1927 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.[2

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He helped to get Lenny Bruce some gigs at the Hungry i, and occasionally wrote jokes for speeches delivered by President John F. Kennedy.[1][2] Sahl got deeply involved in the post-Warren Commission investigation of Kennedy's death, and some say it cost him his popularity.




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