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The JFK Assassination----NASA and USAEC Roles-----50 Years is long Enough

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posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 02:48 AM
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No----you are just London, England------they worship masons. imho




posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 06:10 AM
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MagnumOpus
I went looking for this date and time stamp:

Nothing there by that date and time.


Maybe if you did not lie so much you would be able to keep your bullcrap stories straight but this is what happens when you fabricate and prevaricate. You are obviously here to troll since anyone that posts on this forum can see your post by clicking on the link, scrolling down to the time indicated (you do know there is such a thing as military time where there is no AM or PM?) and reading the following:


posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 12:42

Don't worry about nobody coming knocking at the Mason's door, because I turned you down for being Criminals. imho


There will come others armed with the full knowledge that the Masons started in Southern Germany over the hate for the Catholics taking too much power and they started the MAFIA. And then they started the Masons and the Skull and Bones, from the same hate of the Catholics and the Jesus teaching. All of the MASONS and their financial gang bent out of shape about the Vatican Control and power in Europe. imho

It isn't any accident that the Skull and Bones landed in the US at the Yale business school, and included crooks like Bush and others. imho

We all know Hitler partnered with the Vatican that was more than happy to see these troublesome banking folks and their banking friends all killed. After all, they declared war on Hitler and that Bauer Money gang, Rothschilds/Windsor, became Hitler's enemy.

And the Red Shield ones that liked the MAFIA and Secret Society all ran to England and the Windsors (who were all Germans) for help. imho The crooked 33rd Mason name Churchill runs the MASONS big show for more money, and passed out Communist Certificates to those that didn't follow the MASON's commandments.

We all know the Vatican lost lots of power in WWII, and the English Masons took off to control the US and Not allow Russia and FDR to run over them. They wanted to kill Stalin, but settled for FDR.

So, when the FDR schooled man JFK came to power as a Catholic and agent of the Pope, all pandemonium broke loose with the Masons, The Skull/Bones, and the Royalist MASON Bankers went berserk.

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source


You can deny your words all you want but they are there for everyone to read. Forever.





edit on 29-1-2014 by AugustusMasonicus because: it is always fun to catch liars and expose them for the Vatican tools that they are



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 07:00 AM
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Wow, now I am confused. If the Masons were in bed with the Vatican and the Knights of Malta as you asserted earlier, and JFK was a member of the knights of Columbus and was loyal to the Pope, as you stated members must be, then why would we go against the Vatican?

See, when you fabricate so much garbage, you cannot keep your story straight. Lies, lies and BS.

You are a fraud. Give it up.



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 07:36 AM
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reply to post by AugustusMasonicus
 


The issue is that this listing shows up here as:



posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 11:42 AM



So, you misdirected the date and time stamp.



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 07:41 AM
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MagnumOpus
The issue is that this listing shows up here as:


The issue is not that I have a different time zone setting then you, the issue is that you lied and got caught. I cut and pasted your entire post with the quote that you claimed you never made.

Give it up, you got caught lying. Again.



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 08:08 AM
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Now anyone can capture the context for the comment.

When JFK was running for president, he was going to be the first Catholic President, and was the 1st. So, the central issue for Masons was that JFK was going to be an agent for the Pope running the US. The issue also involved the JFK belonged to KOC. imho

That one sentence was written from the Mason Catholic dislike / paranoia perspective and the same shows up here, due to the paranoid of one sentence being taken out of context.

The long standing differences between the Catholic banning Masons still shows up. imho

It would come into play with the Intelligence gang that used the Old Pope and Cardinal Spellman to gain a foothold in the lower Americas.

When that Pope Died, the new Paul VI changed the Vatican attitude on Communism. JFK was anti-war, and when that new edict came along------the hard driving issues of JFK and RFK being anti-Communists changes severely. imho

The Masons went ballistic, and ones in Oak Ridge especially. But the full premise of the sentence was:


So, when the FDR schooled man JFK came to power as a Catholic and agent of the Pope, all pandemonium broke loose with the Masons, The Skull/Bones, and the Royalist MASON Bankers went berserk.


And we see that the quote was indeed a snip, a partial sentence, which was then attempted to be misused to leave out the MASON perspective that drove a want for assassination of JFK.


So, the appearance of the snip taken well out of the context, even delivered as partial sentence, even the date changed to show where it was located-----appears as a dishonesty. imho

And LBJ, as a MASON good ole boy knew that was the issue, and took the calculated bet that he could ride into the Presidency when the Masons would rise up to kill JFK. The the Original Masonic driven dislike of Catholics is validated with Hoover forcing LBJ onto the JFK ticket with black-mail tactics.

Certainly, it was clear the Pope VI changed the Catholic Rules on Communism, which ruined their lower America's CIA games, it made Cardinal Spellman unwelcome at the Vatican. The KOC are going to follow the Pope, the true Knights of Malta, that were not Masons, were going to follow the Pope. And we discover that Masons cannot truthfully be Vatican Kights Malta, nor KOC. imho

And when the kill Castro deal fell apart due to the same Vatican game, the Mason side of the CIA turned against JFK.


So, with that evasive maneuver sticking out like sore thumb now------we get a real picture of how Mason attempt to distort issues, have the hidden hand game running, and cannot be trusted to tell the real logic behind the JFK murder that does involve their Brothers in Crime. imho



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 08:12 AM
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AugustusMasonicus

MagnumOpus
The issue is that this listing shows up here as:


The issue is not that I have a different time zone setting then you, the issue is that you lied and got caught. I cut and pasted your entire post with the quote that you claimed you never made.

Give it up, you got caught lying. Again.



It is very clear that you sent me looking for a data and time that didn't exist here. So, I reported exactly that. imho

Which was true.

When you listed the entire thing, the Mason perspective that it was written in became obvious. Then you had to deal with the fact you truncated the sentence, took it out of its context, and everyone discovers something that appears along the lines of deceit and treachery, and false claims. imho


The Dirt is now on your Mason Apron, along with JFK's Catholic Blood, that your Brotherhood Alliance insists upon. imho



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 08:12 AM
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MagnumOpus
Now anyone can capture the context for the comment.


The only context that needs to be highlighted is that you claimed to have not made them comment, squirmed around when it was located and are now shifting the goals posts to try and integrate your past lies and into your current ones.

You got caught trying to bull**** the members here, admit it.



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 08:16 AM
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AugustusMasonicus

MagnumOpus
The issue is that this listing shows up here as:


The issue is not that I have a different time zone setting then you, the issue is that you lied and got caught. I cut and pasted your entire post with the quote that you claimed you never made.

Give it up, you got caught lying. Again.



That issues of not finding the item you wanted to direct me toward was exactly the issue of the wrong time and date, which you pass off as your error for not being in my time zone. imho


ATS needs to have one time zone for postings, so everyone can refer to one data and time and it be totally independent of other's time zones. Such would be called intelligent design that allows a unique identification for each listing. imho

The issue of misdirection lies firmly at the foot of the ATS Masons for not telling everyone they have a problem in list design. imho



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 08:19 AM
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MagnumOpus
That issues of not finding the item you wanted to direct me toward was exactly the issue of the wrong time and date, which you pass off as your error for not being in my time zone. imho


ATS needs to have one time zone for postings, so everyone can refer to one data and time and it be totally independent of other's time zones. Such would be called intelligent design that allows a unique identification for each listing. imho

The issue of misdirection lies firmly at the foot of the ATS Masons for not telling everyone they have a problem in list design. imho


So it is Above Top Secet's fault that you could not keep you lies straight? Gotcha.

In the future my advice to you is not to lie, it helps keep your story straight.



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 08:31 AM
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Now all get to see the issue is Scottish Rite Masons have this paranoia on Agents of the Pope, and that paranoia has then posted snips of sentences that take things out of the true context via not being complete sentences, and out of the whole listing's sense. imho

Now, that sentence written into the full perspective-----becomes your undoing.


We discover that Masons still have this war against Catholics, and Catholics still toss out Masons. imho


We also discover the central issue for Masons dislike of the Jesus Crowd, is that Jesus says essentially the NWO won't ever work. So, when Pike Designed the 33 Rite, he slipped in the Adam Weiskopf issues to remove religions, and we all know you can't talk religion in the Masons Temple and the reason being Pike's alignment with the Adam Weiskopf plans on religion. Those then relate back to NWO pyramid built on the date 1776 and the Illuminati. imho

The reason for the Illuminati Pyramid on the back of the Dollar can now be seen from everyone's perspective in the true light,

Then American's discover the hidden hand secrets behind the Masons wanting to take over the world, in full partnership with the Illuminati types, and all is exposed of what Mason subterfuge in the US is all about. imho


Then they find why JFK didn't fit the Masons plan, and had to die, and along with that America's Freedom and Independence. imho



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 08:35 AM
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AugustusMasonicus

MagnumOpus
That issues of not finding the item you wanted to direct me toward was exactly the issue of the wrong time and date, which you pass off as your error for not being in my time zone. imho


ATS needs to have one time zone for postings, so everyone can refer to one data and time and it be totally independent of other's time zones. Such would be called intelligent design that allows a unique identification for each listing. imho

The issue of misdirection lies firmly at the foot of the ATS Masons for not telling everyone they have a problem in list design. imho


So it is Above Top Secet's fault that you could not keep you lies straight? Gotcha.

In the future my advice to you is not to lie, it helps keep your story straight.



My story is extremely straight.

Yours is one attempting to snip sentences in half, take them out of context, and attempt to say anyone that doesn't agree with the Mason subterfuge is an Agent of the Pope. imho


I can read, and so can others, and anyone can google about the Mason's hidden hand games on the Internet.

And they don't need to be called Agents of the Pope, when the issue is they all will become Agents for Freedom and Justice in America and having a healthy concern for what happened to JFK and why. imho



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 08:39 AM
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MagnumOpus
My story is extremely straight.


Yeah, it must have been some other poster named Magnum Opus who claimed Kenendy was a Vatican tool, then denied it and tried to blame the website where he was posting when it was pointed out that he did in fact make this claim.

You look more and more foolish with every denial post you make about this fabrication.



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 08:56 AM
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AugustusMasonicus

MagnumOpus
My story is extremely straight.


Yeah, it must have been some other poster named Magnum Opus who claimed Kenendy was a Vatican tool, then denied it and tried to blame the website where he was posting when it was pointed out that he did in fact make this claim.

You look more and more foolish with every denial post you make about this fabrication.



We all know you belong to the infamous triangle hat club, with your faked up three points of Trinity.


The sentence was written from the Mason's thinking perspective, and showed who all went berserk because of that thinking. imho

Very Simple alignment to Mason thinking, and Mason reaction.

And, obvious to all except a Mason after games of subterfuge. imho


So, I am not an agent of the Pope, but I do read their history and their problems with Masons. And likewise the Masons dislike for the Vatican. And even spot the differences between the Protestants and Catholics and where those roots began. imho

I also read the NEXUS of issues that took place in German with the Windsor gang, the Marx gang, the Martin Luter gang, and the Adam Weiskopf gang find exactly where lots of the wars began imho

Such is called intelligent thinking and informed reading.


One can also easily spot that Albert Pike made the next generation of the Illuminati as the 33rd Degree Rite of Mason, that at the upper level totally forces all religions into nothing. imho


You just hate it when I make that so obvious to others, and then correctly place JFK into the middle of those designs. JFK's enemy was the Scottish Rite Masons of the Southern US, and it shows up like a sore thumb in Civil Rights and Communism issues tracing back to Hoover and other Masons. imho

Then add in the Illuminati alliances trying to create panic in the US on Communism with John Birch Society, the Young Americans for Freedom and so on-----then we find out of control General Walker and Gehlen connections. Then we find out of control HL Hunt and Clint Murchison------and the big day before party down at Murchisons celebrating Hoover for forcing LBJ onto the ticket the day before JFK gets killed. imho


Then all makes very rational common sense as to the subterfuge the Masons have forced onto the US ways for Govt, by infiltration from within the Govt itself. That then turned into the bogus Warren Report with the very Crooks that were involved in taking JFK out imho


So, never forget, the world shall know what Scottish Rite has brought to America, and I want justice for JFK.


You obviously don't want justice for JFK, because it means many of your acclaimed Brothers become Criminals. imho



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 08:59 AM
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None of this is relevant to that fact that you got caught lying and then tried to pawn it off on your inability to tell time.

You made a statement, claimed you did not and tried to shift the goal posts and blame when it was pointed out that you lied.



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 09:24 AM
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You took words out of context from the whole and made bogus claims. imho

You also got caught doing that, very obviously, as you then had to post the entire thing. Then you got exposed for your dishonesty. imho


Then you left out that FDR had to install Joe Kennedy to fix the Stock Market Crash due to the Mason connected banks of the Fed Res controlling the US Money supply and causing the market crash.

FDR knew the best way to handle the Royalist and Banking Masons on the Market Crash was to install a Catholic Joe Kennedy, and then the stop were installed to keep the Royalist and Banking Masons from plundering the US stock market via using the Fed Reserve's excessive control over money. imho

FDR, to make sure that didn't go down again also put Joe Kennedy in as Ambassador to England. That was not to Mason Churchills liking, because Catholic Joe knew too much about the Banking Masons and Royals in the Masons.


Much of the US systems put in checks and balances with Catholic and Mason both involved, to make a tentative balance where one or the other could not get away with anything. imho

But as WWII came into view, FDR pulled back the Joe Kennedy influence on anti-war.

Joe Kennedy gets recalled by Mason FDR, who begins backing Mason Churchills want of dragging the US into WWII.


Thus, the very first element of the sentence involved the FDR trained JFK, which is all about the Kennedy's family knowledge of how the US get into WWII.


So, you didn't connect that because you wanted shallow thinking of Masons to overcome the meaning for the first words of the sentence. imho

Joe Kennedy was pulled from England because Mason Churchill considered him an agent of the Pope and the Pope rejected Protestants.

Such wordings at the first of the sentence spoke to this, all very logical and part of history.


As such with the Kennedy History and England's Masons, JFK is also considered to be an Agent of the Pope and this again the issues of FDR having pulled Joe Kennedy from England Ambassadorship because the Mason Churchill gang considered Joe to be agent of the Pope, and the Pope was aligned with Germany. imho

In the like school of thought in the JFK years, the English Masons considered that JFK was likewise an Agent of the Pope and they wanted JFK out of the way in the war against Communism, but they didn't have a Mason at the top to pull strings to remove a Catholic from the Presidency.

But they did have the Corrupt Mason Hoover that long conspired with Mason Churchill and Mason FDR to start WWII. So, Mason Hoover had forced LBJ onto the JFK ticket via black mail on JFK's sex-ca-pades. And we all know LBJ thought that the Masons would again go against a Catholic on issues of Communism, the Vatican, and the English Royalist Nobelist Masons. imho

That Mason History between the US and England formed the elements for the sentences composition and it makes perfect logical sense. imho

It also fully indicts the Masons as being largely behind the JFK hit, due to the long Kennedy family history against Masons, due to the Mason Hoover plan to maneuver LBJ onto the JFK ticket, due to the Mason's hate for Civil Rights in the South certified by Mason Hoover, and the JFK fight for Civil Ridges and peace went totally against the Scottish Rite goals for NWO that could be be gained by peace being the plan from JFK. imho


Thus, you have lost the debate. You failed to note that which is obvious in the JFK time line to murder via Mason associated alliances, and basically the high level issues behind the JFK Murder. imho


So, all you do is more nonsense trying to hide the Mason behind the take over of the US from within. imho


Truth wins and you don't have the history and truth on your side-----only a closed mind resisting the Mason connections to the JFK hit. imho



Then, the ultimate-----if the Masons really did like Catholics------there would be no issue here on Agent of the Pope. Obviously, the hate still persists to this very day. Even against anyone, Catholic or not, that dare speak to this logical truth in the full light of day. imho
edit on 29-1-2014 by MagnumOpus because: So Pitiful, is their effort to lie.



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 09:49 AM
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MagnumOpus
You took words out of context from the whole and made bogus claims.


Kind of hard to take this out of context:


...JFK came to power as a Catholic and agent of the Pope...


Your Vatican cheerleading is disgusting but not as disgusting as your repeated lies and how you try to squirm out of them by shifting goal posts and blaming others for your dishonesty.



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 10:28 AM
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I shall leave you to stew in your denials of truth and historic fact. imho


Most will see you for the latest Mason contrivance and discussion diversions to stall the truth on JFK and MASONs being involved in his demise. imho

So, you failed. imho

But soon the issues beyond 33rd Degree Masons being Islam seeking Shriners as the next truth of the Illuminati will consume you and yours.



Now, most can find that JFK had traitors in his midst in the name of Nick Katzenbach that started working with Mason Hoover and LBJ to design the Warren Commission to cover up what forces had been behind the murder of JFK. imho

Anyone can find that JFK put in John McCone as a Catholic to counter the Mason Allan Dulles issues, and that is the like same reason that Mason FDR put in Catholic Joe Kennedgy to handle the Market Cashes being done by Mason Bankers and Royalist Money behind the Federal Reserve.

Some suggest McCone was kept from knowing all the issues and was thus dumb. But, CIA McCone did supply RFK was misleading information on who hit JFK. imho

McCone had connections with USAEC and Oak Ridge due to intelligence on nuclear materials.

McCone kicked Mason supporting LBJ in the rear for doing bad war management. imho




In 1958, he became chairman of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. According to journalist Seymour Hersh, in December 1960, while still Atomic Energy Commission chairman, McCone revealed CIA information about Israel's Dimona nuclear weapons plant to the New York Times. Hersh writes that President John F. Kennedy was "fixated" on the Israeli nuclear weapons program and appointed McCone CIA director in part because of his willingness to deal with this and other nuclear weapons issues - and despite the fact that McCone was a Republican.[3]

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McCone resigned from his position of DCI in April 1965, believing himself to be unappreciated by President Lyndon B. Johnson, who he complained, would not read his reports, including on the need for full-fledged inspections of Israeli nuclear facilities.[8] Upon his resignation, McCone submitted a final policy memorandum to Johnson arguing that Johnson's expansion of the war in Vietnam would arouse national and world discontent before it brought down the North Vietnamese regime.



Source:

McCone USAEC



edit on 29-1-2014 by MagnumOpus because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 10:45 AM
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It is appropriate now to deal with what happens after a Mason becomes an Illuminati at the 32rd Degree. In the original ways, when a Mason got to be a 32rd Degree Mason, he could join the Shriners.


These days, since Masons are not doing well, the 32nd requirment has dropped to 3rd degree only.

Shriners are the alliance with the Islam and Arab countries, though they deny this, and still connected with the Albert Pike plan on religions.


Islam is an Abraham based Religion, which denies Jesus was any god or king, but allows Jesus to be understood as a Great Profit. Which is on par with the truth of Jesus being an Essene High Priest. imho

The Masons embrace Islam via the Shriners and their interesting Lion's Claws in the symbolism of Islam.


One can see the Mason associated Islam Symbols here

And Here


The double Lion's Claw symbolism is that for the Symbol for Jerusalem, which is somewhat like the crescent symbol for Islam. Jerusalem geologically sits on a Curved Cresent area that is seen well from the opposing hillside, and presented as the Double Lion's Claw. imho

Old Islam Symbol

But the issues are deeper:

Islam and the symbol


So, as we speak most of Nobility countries of Europe and England are being taken over by Islam's followers and it fits into the Mason Albert Pike Illuminati game. Islam sought the Bomb to an extent with Iraq's games to counter the Illuminati games. imho




The Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, also commonly known as Shriners and abbreviated A.A.O.N.M.S., established in 1870, is an appendant body to Freemasonry.

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Until 2000, before being eligible for membership in the Shrine, a person had to complete either the Scottish Rite or York Rite degrees of Masonry,[9] but now any Master Mason can join.[10]
Shriners count among their ranks presidents, senators, local business leaders, professional golfers, country music stars, astronauts and racecar drivers.[11]



Shriners



Keep in mind that Pike died 1891.



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posted on Jan, 29 2014 @ 11:31 AM
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MagnumOpus
I shall leave you to stew in your Magnum Opus's denials of truth and historic fact.


Fixed that for you.

You can thank me later.



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