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The JFK Assassination----NASA and USAEC Roles-----50 Years is long Enough

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posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 09:22 AM
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reply to post by MagnumOpus
 


As I said before, but was censored, you might actually be good at research if you let go of the theory that masons must be the bad guy in every scenario and just did the research itself.

A professional would check facts and let the facts lead them, an amateur with mental illness might try to find any angle that pointed to evil masons, then try to get the facts to fit.

Quit being that guy.




posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 10:18 AM
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reply to post by network dude
 


What part of NO did you not comprehend. imho No free ride for Mason Corruption.

Masons had obvious roles in the JFK hit.

The history of the Masons in the dirty deeds of WWII, in the cover up of the Murders of JFK and others will be brought into public attention.

In just such a way that these previous documentaries and criminal prosecutions told of the Mason's Criminal involvements. imho


The Police and all around the world those of true honor and justice values will infiltrate the Masons, and before is all said and done of these infamous criminal Mason discoveries, Homeland Security directed Cruse Missiles may find Mason Lodges for their treasonous attacks on US Freedoms. imho


The very day the JFK hit happened a Mason told me of the connections and those thereafter. I have no doubts Masons have corrupt and criminal past on the JFK hit. imho
edit on 27-1-2014 by MagnumOpus because: NO reason to play two ball cane with any Mason Crafts seeking silence for murder of JFK. imho



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 10:41 AM
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Oh well. then I guess you will never be a true investigator. Just another paranoid nutter.

See, a real investigator would follow the truth, and if the truth pointed towards masons, he would have mounds of evidence proving it. You do not. You have innuendo and a few people who happened to be masons involved. It's even possible that some of them are complicit in some wrongdoing. But going about like you do, well, honestly folks will pass you by as a kook.

Infiltrate masonry. It's not hard to join. Then you too can learn how it works, what we know, what we teach, and what we believe. You can learn how the structure is and how what you describe is impossible. But don't listen to me, I am a mason after all. I killed JFK.



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 10:52 AM
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It isn't about me----it is about America. I don't value your Mason apologist thoughts.

We all know about name calling attempts by Masons. And we know Buckley does the same games. Buckley = YAF = Gen. Walker = HL Hunt .....

In the interest of truth, we again find Mason's alliances:






Source:





Members of The Order of the Skull and Bones

Prescott Sheldon Bush (grandfather), George H.W. Bush (father), George W. Bush (son), John Kerry, David Boren, William F. Buckley, Henry Sloane Coffin Sr. and Jr., Henry Luce, Henry Lewis Stimson, William Howard Taft, McGeorge Bundy, Archibald MacLeish

...a kinder, gentler fascism.



Source:

Buckely Vs. Mark Lane



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 11:02 AM
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Watch the Video and see Buckley about swallow his CIA Accent on the Mason Hoover and Mason Warren comments from Lane. imho

Then see what bias that Buckley comes from....CIA, YAF.....

Citations:




YAF is the Nation's oldest, largest, and most active conservative youth organization. Founded in 1960 at the Sharon, Connecticut estate of William F. Buckley, Jr., YAF has long fought for the values that made America great – individual liberty and political, social, and economic freedom.



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Buckley yaf



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 11:21 AM
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It's a shame to waste it, but there is nothing that can be done. Wallow in your hate, bias, and stupidity.
The masons did it. All of it.



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 11:25 AM
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reply to post by SayonaraJupiter
 

That is not something "very crucial for a 33rd degree Mason".

reply to post by Snarl
 

That's a pretty bold and assuming statement made off someone making a "what if" statement.

reply to post by MagnumOpus
 

In a court of justice we are guilty of no crimes. It would only be in your kangaroo style court that we would be found guilty of anything. Good luck trying to put me into a prison.

reply to post by MagnumOpus
 

So you'd rather stick by your ignorance? You suffer from confirmation bias and so your research is biased. Research should be neutral as the truth doesn't take sides. Also, we are not asking for a "free ride for Mason Corruption", but your methods don't inspire confidence. I'm all about personal accountability and responsibility, and with any bad apples I say hold them accountable for their crimes, but because they are gone you'd go after the group which you can't. There is no group conspiracy in all of this.


Masons had obvious roles in the JFK hit.

You want this to be true.

Dirty deeds of WWII? Masons didn't assist in the genocide conducted by the Nazi.

Infiltration? Sounds nefarious and devious. Plus, how are we to know that these infiltrators are not causing the crimes and that you are planting your own seeds to our downfall? Sounds like entrapment really. You'd have the government fire missiles against its own citizens?! Without a trial even? Wow, yeah, you're really holding that moral high ground.


If there is a danger to freedom, it's fascist like you who want a nation of sycophantic "Yes Men" who pander to your beliefs. Welcome to an authoritarian idiocracy. LOL

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Necessity is the cry of all tyrants.
edit on 27-1-2014 by KSigMason because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 11:41 AM
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One never pays attention to the Corrupt Masons still trying to cover up that which is obvious. imho

Keep in mind that William F Buckley, as a former Mexico City CIA operative started the YAF. Once a Company Man (CIA), always a Company Man (CIA) Buckley was all CIA.

Buckley was Yale and part of Skull and Bones of the upper crust Palladians set of Masons. imho

Plus, Buckley was Knight of Malta, along with McCone and others. imho


YAF was all over Dallas, backed Gen Walker. Ronnie Reagan belonged to the YAF, and those are crucial CIA connections for the JFK hit. imho


Keep in mind that Luce was a Knight of Malta and his Mag reps rushed to buy the Mason Zapruder Film and sounds like they paid around 6 million dollars to keep it sequestered from the Public's Eye, because it tells LHO could not be the sole culprit. imho

Mason Zapruder knew very well what the film was worth, and it made his family extremely rich. imho

Citations:




John McCone was a very powerful industrialist, and one who was part of the military-industrial complex, before he became the head of the CIA. He later went on to become part of, I believe, ITT.
John McCone was another Knight of Malta, head of the CIA, and participated in the Kennedy assassination by virtue of him being its head. And he's Knight of Malta.
Angelton is a Knight of Malta. Henry Luce is a Knight of Malta. William F. Buckley is a Knight of Malta. And William F. Buckley then ran the National Review-and what does he do?




Source:

Buckley Knight of Malta

edit on 27-1-2014 by MagnumOpus because: Oy Vey----let the light shine on



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 12:18 PM
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The only thing obvious is that you are obsessed.

Palladin? LOL Okay, I'll raise your palladin and bring out my lvl 70 dark elf mage. LOL



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 12:52 PM
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KSigMason
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reply to post by Nochzwei
 

Masons do not worship Lucifer or Satan. You are lying and that is a Sin.

Also, Lucifer is not Satan. Lucifer was a disgraced Babylonian king.

Ugh, that "repugnant" statement comes just after JFK states that we need GREATER SECRECY. Manipulation and falsification of information is the trade mark of anti-Masons.


Hey ruling the roost does not justify posting blatant lies as you have just done.



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 12:57 PM
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Keep in mind that the Catholic Knights of Malta was a CIA alliance, the same alliance with Gehlen Org. applied. LHO was Gehlen recruit to infiltrate Russian Peace and instigate the U-2 shoot down. When Spellman lost all his power when the old Pope died, and the new one took up Peace with Communism, then Catholic JFK sided with the New Pope. The Knights gang set up JFK for death using Communism as their reason for JFK treason. imho


Citation:






Perversely, after the war the order’s highest decoration, the ’Grand Cross of Merit’, was awarded to Nazi General Reinhard Gehlen, Hitler’s Eastern Front intelligence chief,

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The founding fathers of the CIA William "Wild Bill" Donovan and Allen Dulles were knights, as were many other CIA hierarchy including Ronald Reagan’s director William Casey and JFK’s director John McCone. According to "Watergate" journalist Carl Bernstein, Casey gave Pope John Paul II unprecedented access to CIA intelligence including spy satellites and agents.

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He was a close friend of Argentinian president and knight Juan Peron, who recent CIA documents prove was also involved in the laundering of Nazi gold through the Vatican Bank. Conveniently for Nazi members who did not escape Europe, William Donovan served as chief aide to the American prosecutor at the post-war Nuremberg trials, after handing over the reigns of the OSS/CIA to fellow knight Allen Dulles.

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Documents show that New York’s Cardinal Francis Spellman was directly involved in the 1954 right-wing military coup of Guatemala, which led to the murder of thousands, and of which the CIA has acknowledged complicity.

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Non-aristocratic parties can now be initiated by the "Magistral Grace" of the Grand Master, although not in Britain, Germany and other European countries with a strong tradition of nobility. However, this has allowed many Americans to join, and an "Order of Merit" is bestowed upon those who have outstandingly served the Knights or their works. Past Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush are such honorary initiates, and Reagan was the toast of an extravagant dinner held by the Order in 1989.

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Cardinal Spellman was not only an old friend of CIA creator "Wild Bill" Donovan (who previously had a law firm in New York) but was the actual head of the Knights of Malta in America throughout the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s, and was responsible for vast sums of money raised from its members, who have to pay thousands annually to remain in the order.

The Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM) is directly allied with international Freemasonry, from where they recruit their new elite brethren. Hence, the Knights of Malta and the Knights Templar are the Rosicrucian upper-degrees of Freemasonry.




Source:

knights malta are cia



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 01:13 PM
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So, we know Reagan gets to call himself a Mason due to meeting of February 11, 1988. imho


But then the Knights of Malta have to throw a bigger party: imho




Non-aristocratic parties can now be initiated by the "Magistral Grace" of the Grand Master, although not in Britain, Germany and other European countries with a strong tradition of nobility. However, this has allowed many Americans to join, and an "Order of Merit" is bestowed upon those who have outstandingly served the Knights or their works. Past Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush are such honorary initiates, and Reagan was the toast of an extravagant dinner held by the Order in 1989.




posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 01:22 PM
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We also know that Mason George Mandel moves down to Rome to cultivate the PERMINDEX alliance with the Knights of Malta, Gehlen, CIA, King Harvey, et al imho

PERMINDEX is over in France hunting down the Nobles to kill De Gaulle. They come to the US. imho

The Mexico City CIA deals depend in Catholic Support to take over the lower Americas.

The CIA Mexico City E. Howard Hunt confessed to being in on the plot to off JFK. imho



We know HL Hunt was grabbed quickly by the FBI / Hoover and taken out of Texas before he shoots his mouth off. imho

Pro-NAZI HL Hunt is right in the middle of YAF, with CIA agent Buckley and Knight Malta. imho




edit on 27-1-2014 by MagnumOpus because: The finally nears! And not one honest Mason to be found on the JFK hit... imho



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 01:30 PM
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Where did I lie?

1) There is no worshiping in Freemasonry. That is for one to do outside the Lodge. Neither Satan nor Lucifer have any part in our rituals.

2) Isaiah 14:4 states marks Lucifer as the King of Babylon who is wicked and oppressive man. The original text he is referred to as "Helal bin Shahar" which literally translates to "Day Star, son of the Morning" (often called the Morning Star). The "Lucifer" translation came from St. Jerome in the 4th century and in his day the Morning Star (the star that preceded the rising Sun) was known as Lucifer, the light bearer, which today is known to be the planet Venus.

3) JFK states in the paragraph before the "repugnant" quote: "I refer, first, to the need for far greater public information; and, second, to the need for far greater official secrecy."

So please, show me where I lied.

reply to post by MagnumOpus
 

So the Catholics killed off one of their own? I thought it was the Masons who did it?



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 01:57 PM
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Maggers, old boy, are you still saying that everyone who points out that you haven't got a leg to stand on is in fact an ebil sooper seekrit mason?



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 02:39 PM
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Then via the same critical previous citation, we discover why the Knights of Malta would not like the Hungarian PERMINDEX gang, as Hungaria was 20 % noble class when it fell to Russia.

But the CIA gang, McCone, William Buckley, et al took up the Vatican connections in the US.

We even find why Ronald Reagan saved the day for the Hungarians that failed to connect with Rome via PERMINDEX.

Even David Ferrie was Catholic, which is how he fit into the CIA lower America's games.





Non-aristocratic parties can now be initiated by the "Magistral Grace" of the Grand Master, although not in Britain, Germany and other European countries with a strong tradition of nobility. However, this has allowed many Americans to join, and an "Order of Merit" is bestowed upon those who have outstandingly served the Knights or their works. Past Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush are such honorary initiates, and Reagan was the toast of an extravagant dinner held by the Order in 1989.



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 04:05 PM
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I think that you mean Hungary, not Hungaria, which doesn't actually exist. And are you saying that 20% of the population of Hungary was aristocratic? I don't think so.



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 04:40 PM
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Right in the middle of essentially WWIII we have this deal with the King James Masons of Noble England at odds with the Knights of Malta Catholics----both either directly or indirectly involved on the JFK hit and cover up. It was that big.


The NAZI's and Catholics don't appreciate the Nobelist English, nor the Noble Hungarians (composed of 20% Nobles before the invasion) of PERMINDEX that happen to be saving Jewish types, running money to the Mossad, dealing drugs, fighting and killing over Communism, et al. The Catholic Gehlens would not mind cleaning up the world by dumping dirty PERMINDEX in prime view via the JFK hit. imho

The British didn't want the Gehlen Org., nor the Paperclip NAZIs in the US, and the Brits were always after Gehlen's Boys. They got one when they started messing with LHO. imho

To add insult to injury to the Gehlen Org., they forced a Jewish guy (Jack Ruby) to shoot LHO on national TV. Plus, another Jewish guy (Zapruder) gets the whole thing on film and family makes millions from it.

But, if all were found out, as to the extend that happened, from the Masons/ English alliances in battle with the CIA Knights Malta folks going against the Vatican, almost all religion would be wiped out.

So, in some ways exposing the extent of the JFK plot full-fills the Illuminati goal on religion's destruction of each other. imho

When Pope John 23 died on 3rd June 1963, that started the wreck of the CIA's Knights Malta methods for the lower America's. It also appeared to full-fill JFK's interests in tearing the CIA to bits.

When Paul VI came in he took up a mild stand on Communists and JFK followed suite. But the CIA's and NY Knights of Malta didn't like this new Pope, nor the Pope them, and the CIA Masons decided to infiltrate the Vatican via P2. They also moved JFK out of the way, plugged in LBJ that would do anything for the hidden hands and keep the eternal flame of war lighted in America. imho

Next, all the turn coats of the Knights Malta in the JFK side of things joined the LBJ Mason Crooks and both worked to hide the real deal on what alliances killed JFK. Their mutual flag was LHO Lone Nut Communist Yet, that alliance shows up well on the Warren Commission's members. LBJ organized the Warren Commission and Mason Hoover fed them tainted information to make it appear one Lone Nut killed JFK. Not one word of LHO being Gehlen's recruit and the extensive later associations were made in public. imho

At issue was that if the truth came out on the JFK hit---it would indeed wipe out the CIA, wipe out DISC and Hoover, LBJ, and a lot more. So, they did the same old same old------get anti-communists anywhere you can-----so the hide the Knights Malta CIA and White House types, and hid the Mason run CIA crooks of Dulles, McCone that got the NAZIs into the US. And all was swept under the Intelligence agency rugs. imho

Cite:




The First World War was to be fought so as to enable the Illuminati to overthrow the powers of the Tzars in Russia and turn that country into the stronghold of Atheistic-Communism. The differences stirred up by the Agentur of the Illuminati between the British and German Empires were to be sued to foment this war. After the war ended, Communism was to be built up and used to destroy other governments and weaken religions.



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Palladian Rite



edit on 27-1-2014 by MagnumOpus because: Double trouble = US citizens lost --- Fascism extremism took control of USA. imho



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 05:12 PM
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So, these days the fear of Communism has faded, and people like Vladimir Putin have higher US approval ratings than the US President. Russia has decided it likes mild Capitalism. imho

China has pretty much joined the capitalism game and makes more than half the stuff the US buys. China often makes more sense than the White House on various factors.


So, the time is ripe to get the JFK murder on the table, after 50 years, the American people need to be freed from the Fascism imposed by the huge JFK cover up, and the values of JFK sought for Americans, as well as the Respect for the US Constitution values restored from a time when Masons were honest in the times of George Washington's appearing to pay attention to Weiskopf's religions concerns. imho

It is not by accident that Marx was from Germany, the Rothschilds were from Germany, and the Royal Family of the UK is from Germany----they all know the old histories. It was no accident that German Rothschilds ran to England over Hitler's clean up of Germany, or that Mason Churchill backed the German Rothschilds and German Windsors.


These are the levels of history and comprehension to deal with the details for the JFK hit against American's Freedoms. imho


There is no better time than now to toss out the truth of what happened, and deal with the extremes of what is happening in the US over these similar problems left to fester in high places of Govt.
edit on 27-1-2014 by MagnumOpus because: Now is the time to ask not what your country can do for you, but only to deal with what you can do for America. !!



posted on Jan, 27 2014 @ 06:06 PM
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